General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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He intentionally avoided his own argument of “no one is joining” to fit his agenda.
Summarize:
P: “Jinbe is the 10th Strawhat because Luffy counts himself and no one is joining. Yamato has no role and won’t bring any addition to the crew.”
Me: “Okay but you voted for Vivi. What about her?”
P: “She’s a strawhat already”
*proceed to post a picture of OP official youtube channel to support his argument*
Me: “Okay but Vivi also had no role. So how exactly does your argument work for Yamato but it doesn’t work for Vivi?” *I honestly ignored his OP official youtube channel post*
P: “She’s coming back to the story. She’ll set sail again with the crew one more time.”
Me: “Okay but above you said that Jinbe is the 10th SH because Luffy counts himself. Using your logic, then Vivi won’t be joining again.”
P: “She’s listed 5.5 in SBS so she’s fine. She’ll be on Sunny but not an official thing”
Me: *remembering him posted the OP official YT channel* “So your arguments don’t work then because how come official source used on character who doesn’t officially join? And you posted this picture here (official OP YT channel). How many people are there in the picture?”
P: *ignored the question* “I’d rather not go too in-deep with this because it’s unrelated to what I think about Yamato.”
Me: “Of course it’s related. It’s the next nakama thread. So anyway how many people are there in the picture you posted?”
P: *ignored the question* “You guys talk about Vivi because I voted for her and use my vote to counter me. She’ll set sail again with the crew for one or two arcs. It won’t be official.”
Me: *me suddenly remembering that he brought Vivi up twice* “But you were the one who brought Vivi up in the first place. And you’re not answering? How many people are there in the picture?”
P: *ignored the question* “I don’t want this to be a Vivibro vs Yamatobro shiftlinging contest. And according to SBS Strawhats count like this: *proceeds to list current Strawhats + Vivi*
Me: “It’s not a contest. You’re the one who thinks it’s a contest. Okay then again how many people are there in the picture? And how many people are there in your list?”
P: “Your question is complete non sequitur.”
*proceeds to cherry pick what he said; also what I said & asked to fit his agenda. While at the same time still avoiding the simplest question asked*
Summarize:
P: “Jinbe is the 10th Strawhat because Luffy counts himself and no one is joining. Yamato has no role and won’t bring any addition to the crew.”
Me: “Okay but you voted for Vivi. What about her?”
P: “She’s a strawhat already”
*proceed to post a picture of OP official youtube channel to support his argument*
Me: “Okay but Vivi also had no role. So how exactly does your argument work for Yamato but it doesn’t work for Vivi?” *I honestly ignored his OP official youtube channel post*
P: “She’s coming back to the story. She’ll set sail again with the crew one more time.”
Me: “Okay but above you said that Jinbe is the 10th SH because Luffy counts himself. Using your logic, then Vivi won’t be joining again.”
P: “She’s listed 5.5 in SBS so she’s fine. She’ll be on Sunny but not an official thing”
Me: *remembering him posted the OP official YT channel* “So your arguments don’t work then because how come official source used on character who doesn’t officially join? And you posted this picture here (official OP YT channel). How many people are there in the picture?”
P: *ignored the question* “I’d rather not go too in-deep with this because it’s unrelated to what I think about Yamato.”
Me: “Of course it’s related. It’s the next nakama thread. So anyway how many people are there in the picture you posted?”
P: *ignored the question* “You guys talk about Vivi because I voted for her and use my vote to counter me. She’ll set sail again with the crew for one or two arcs. It won’t be official.”
Me: *me suddenly remembering that he brought Vivi up twice* “But you were the one who brought Vivi up in the first place. And you’re not answering? How many people are there in the picture?”
P: *ignored the question* “I don’t want this to be a Vivibro vs Yamatobro shiftlinging contest. And according to SBS Strawhats count like this: *proceeds to list current Strawhats + Vivi*
Me: “It’s not a contest. You’re the one who thinks it’s a contest. Okay then again how many people are there in the picture? And how many people are there in your list?”
P: “Your question is complete non sequitur.”
*proceeds to cherry pick what he said; also what I said & asked to fit his agenda. While at the same time still avoiding the simplest question asked*
I asked “how many people are in this picture?” clearly because you posted this:
To use it as your argument. I wouldn’t ask anything about picture if you hadn’t posted that picture, genius. Who’s debunking whose argument? On which post did I wrote “okay so then what about Vivi?” or “LOL”? I clearly said because you think Jinbe is the 10th and last nakama then Vivi won’t be getting her ass on the ship. It’s your logic, so I use it against you. You were the one who brought her 5.5 without being asked
I find it funny that you made me look like I questioned something (which I didn’t do) and blatantly ignore the real question which I clearly asked multiple times regarding your argument, only for you to ignore and say it’s “non sequitur”
To use it as your argument. I wouldn’t ask anything about picture if you hadn’t posted that picture, genius. Who’s debunking whose argument? On which post did I wrote “okay so then what about Vivi?” or “LOL”? I clearly said because you think Jinbe is the 10th and last nakama then Vivi won’t be getting her ass on the ship. It’s your logic, so I use it against you. You were the one who brought her 5.5 without being asked
I find it funny that you made me look like I questioned something (which I didn’t do) and blatantly ignore the real question which I clearly asked multiple times regarding your argument, only for you to ignore and say it’s “non sequitur”
I'm not gonna explain it again. If you're too stupid to understand it, then that's on you
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He intentionally avoided his own argument of “no one is joining” to fit his agenda.
Summarize:
P: “Jinbe is the 10th Strawhat because Luffy counts himself and no one is joining. Yamato has no role and won’t bring any addition to the crew.”
Me: “Okay but you voted for Vivi. What about her?”
P: “She’s a strawhat already”
*proceed to post a picture of OP official youtube channel to support his argument*
Me: “Okay but Vivi also had no role. So how exactly does your argument work for Yamato but it doesn’t work for Vivi?” *I honestly ignored his OP official youtube channel post*
P: “She’s coming back to the story. She’ll set sail again with the crew one more time.”
Me: “Okay but above you said that Jinbe is the 10th SH because Luffy counts himself. Using your logic, then Vivi won’t be joining again.”
P: “She’s listed 5.5 in SBS so she’s fine. She’ll be on Sunny but not an official thing”
Me: *remembering him posted the OP official YT channel* “So your arguments don’t work then because how come official source used on character who doesn’t officially join? And you posted this picture here (official OP YT channel). How many people are there in the picture?”
P: *ignored the question* “I’d rather not go too in-deep with this because it’s unrelated to what I think about Yamato.”
Me: “Of course it’s related. It’s the next nakama thread. So anyway how many people are there in the picture you posted?”
P: *ignored the question* “You guys talk about Vivi because I voted for her and use my vote to counter me. She’ll set sail again with the crew for one or two arcs. It won’t be official.”
Me: *me suddenly remembering that he brought Vivi up twice* “But you were the one who brought Vivi up in the first place. And you’re not answering? How many people are there in the picture?”
P: *ignored the question* “I don’t want this to be a Vivibro vs Yamatobro shiftlinging contest. And according to SBS Strawhats count like this: *proceeds to list current Strawhats + Vivi*
Me: “It’s not a contest. You’re the one who thinks it’s a contest. Okay then again how many people are there in the picture? And how many people are there in your list?”
P: “Your question is complete non sequitur.”
*proceeds to cherry pick what he said; also what I said & asked to fit his agenda. While at the same time still avoiding the simplest question asked*
Summarize:
P: “Jinbe is the 10th Strawhat because Luffy counts himself and no one is joining. Yamato has no role and won’t bring any addition to the crew.”
Me: “Okay but you voted for Vivi. What about her?”
P: “She’s a strawhat already”
*proceed to post a picture of OP official youtube channel to support his argument*
Me: “Okay but Vivi also had no role. So how exactly does your argument work for Yamato but it doesn’t work for Vivi?” *I honestly ignored his OP official youtube channel post*
P: “She’s coming back to the story. She’ll set sail again with the crew one more time.”
Me: “Okay but above you said that Jinbe is the 10th SH because Luffy counts himself. Using your logic, then Vivi won’t be joining again.”
P: “She’s listed 5.5 in SBS so she’s fine. She’ll be on Sunny but not an official thing”
Me: *remembering him posted the OP official YT channel* “So your arguments don’t work then because how come official source used on character who doesn’t officially join? And you posted this picture here (official OP YT channel). How many people are there in the picture?”
P: *ignored the question* “I’d rather not go too in-deep with this because it’s unrelated to what I think about Yamato.”
Me: “Of course it’s related. It’s the next nakama thread. So anyway how many people are there in the picture you posted?”
P: *ignored the question* “You guys talk about Vivi because I voted for her and use my vote to counter me. She’ll set sail again with the crew for one or two arcs. It won’t be official.”
Me: *me suddenly remembering that he brought Vivi up twice* “But you were the one who brought Vivi up in the first place. And you’re not answering? How many people are there in the picture?”
P: *ignored the question* “I don’t want this to be a Vivibro vs Yamatobro shiftlinging contest. And according to SBS Strawhats count like this: *proceeds to list current Strawhats + Vivi*
Me: “It’s not a contest. You’re the one who thinks it’s a contest. Okay then again how many people are there in the picture? And how many people are there in your list?”
P: “Your question is complete non sequitur.”
*proceeds to cherry pick what he said; also what I said & asked to fit his agenda. While at the same time still avoiding the simplest question asked*
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All I'm saying is that Tama would objectively be a better Strawhat than Yamato
This alone has more emotion in it than anything Oda has put into Yamato
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I already explained why Vivi doesn't contrbute to the Strawhat count because going by the official numbers Jimbei is Strawhat #10
I'm not gonna explain it again. If you're too stupid to understand it, then that's on you
Strawmanning
All I'm saying is that Tama would objectively be a better Strawhat than Yamato
This alone has more emotion in it than anything Oda has put into Yamato
I'm not gonna explain it again. If you're too stupid to understand it, then that's on you
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Strawmanning
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All I'm saying is that Tama would objectively be a better Strawhat than Yamato
This alone has more emotion in it than anything Oda has put into Yamato
Besides,
Then when being asked “how many people are there in the picture?” and “how many people are there in the list?” use goddamn mental gymnastics and cherry fucking pick to support his agenda, even trying so hard to look smart by using “non sequitur” and now, “strawmanning” just because he uses mental gymnastics over and over again.
“Strawhat Count goes like this according to SBS” *used SBS as his argument + putting Vivi into it*
“Vivi doesn’t contribute to the Strawhat count”
If she doesn’t contribute to the count then why did you put her in the list, genius? You put her in the list means she contributes to the count. No cherry fucking pick
Calling you dumb is an overstatement, really. I feel terrible for that word
All I'm saying is that Tama would objectively be a better Strawhat than Yamato
This alone has more emotion in it than anything Oda has put into Yamato
This alone has more emotion in it than anything Oda has put into Yamato
I find it hilarious that “you’re too stupid to understand” came from someone who posted this:
And this
Then when being asked “how many people are there in the picture?” and “how many people are there in the list?” use goddamn mental gymnastics and cherry fucking pick to support his agenda, even trying so hard to look smart by using “non sequitur” and now, “strawmanning” just because he uses mental gymnastics over and over again.
“Strawhat Count goes like this according to SBS” *used SBS as his argument + putting Vivi into it*
“Vivi doesn’t contribute to the Strawhat count”
If she doesn’t contribute to the count then why did you put her in the list, genius? You put her in the list means she contributes to the count. No cherry fucking pick
Calling you dumb is an overstatement, really. I feel terrible for that word
Even funnier that this also came from the same person who avoid to “count” while at the same time use “count” as his argument. Do you work as a circus though?
And this
Then when being asked “how many people are there in the picture?” and “how many people are there in the list?” use goddamn mental gymnastics and cherry fucking pick to support his agenda, even trying so hard to look smart by using “non sequitur” and now, “strawmanning” just because he uses mental gymnastics over and over again.
“Strawhat Count goes like this according to SBS” *used SBS as his argument + putting Vivi into it*
“Vivi doesn’t contribute to the Strawhat count”
If she doesn’t contribute to the count then why did you put her in the list, genius? You put her in the list means she contributes to the count. No cherry fucking pick
Calling you dumb is an overstatement, really. I feel terrible for that word
Even funnier that this also came from the same person who avoid to “count” while at the same time use “count” as his argument. Do you work as a circus though?
I POSTED THE PICTURE WITH VIVI BECAUSE SHE'S A STRAWHAT
"B-b-b-b-but with Vivi it's eleven"
I already told you why it's ten. Because the author said so,
So the amount of people in the fucking picture is 10, and the amount of people in the fucking list is 10…
Because the author said so…
And at the same time using the number (as I quote: Strawhat count) & picture as his argument, using “the author said so” as his argument while at the same time denying what the the author said because he thinks “Vivi doesn’t contribute to Strawhat count”
It’s clear then that it’s ten. Vivi doesn’t contribute to the count both in the number or in the picture, therefore the 5.5 & her being in the picture “doesn’t contribute to the count”, simply because the author said so. 5.5 is her fucking designated number. It’s like Robin’s number is 7, Nami is 3, and so on; but Robin is 6th to be recruited, Nami is 2nd to be recruited, and so on. But still during promotion pictures there are 10 people. Basic mathematics. You can’t be fucking serious that you can’t make any difference between designated number, order number, and total amount. Jeez
And using your arguments of “Jinbe is the 10th and no one is joining” and “the author said so.”, then they help my case of Vivi not joining. You said “no one is joining”, that includes Vivi whom you brought up in the first place (and in your vote); and for “the author said so”, the chance gets higher since the “author” said that Usopp will always be the weakest. Vivi is weaker than Usopp, therefore Vivi isn’t joining, because the author said so.
Conclusion: Vivi isn’t joining, well because you said “no one’s joining”, “no more than 10”, and because “the author said that Usopp will always be the weakest.”
Man, what a waste of effort. I feel sorry.
Problem solved
When I thought this couldn’t get any dumber, some people really dig a new low. Sorry I’m wheezing because of the laugh
Because the author said so…
And at the same time using the number (as I quote: Strawhat count) & picture as his argument, using “the author said so” as his argument while at the same time denying what the the author said because he thinks “Vivi doesn’t contribute to Strawhat count”
It’s clear then that it’s ten. Vivi doesn’t contribute to the count both in the number or in the picture, therefore the 5.5 & her being in the picture “doesn’t contribute to the count”, simply because the author said so. 5.5 is her fucking designated number. It’s like Robin’s number is 7, Nami is 3, and so on; but Robin is 6th to be recruited, Nami is 2nd to be recruited, and so on. But still during promotion pictures there are 10 people. Basic mathematics. You can’t be fucking serious that you can’t make any difference between designated number, order number, and total amount. Jeez
And using your arguments of “Jinbe is the 10th and no one is joining” and “the author said so.”, then they help my case of Vivi not joining. You said “no one is joining”, that includes Vivi whom you brought up in the first place (and in your vote); and for “the author said so”, the chance gets higher since the “author” said that Usopp will always be the weakest. Vivi is weaker than Usopp, therefore Vivi isn’t joining, because the author said so.
Conclusion: Vivi isn’t joining, well because you said “no one’s joining”, “no more than 10”, and because “the author said that Usopp will always be the weakest.”
Man, what a waste of effort. I feel sorry.
Problem solved
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It makes for great entertainment 
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I’m sorry, but I’m still hung up on the whole “Luffy is his own friend/crew mate” thing, it’s hands down the absolute funniest shit anyone here has ever said and really, REALLY tells us a fuckton about the person who wrote (and continues defending!) it and what their offline life must be like
Me: using your logic then Vivi isn’t joining as well, since you brought up her before + voted for her in the poll
P: She’s a SH already *list names *post pic *list SBS
Me: Okay if Vivi is there then anyone with basic logic can count it’s 11
P: no it’s 10. Vivi is 5.5, she doesn’t contribute to the count
Me: If she doesn’t contribute then why you counted her in? If she’s in there no matter if her number is 5.5, anybody with simple logic will count 11 people
P: no it’s 10. Because the author said so. You’re non sequitur and strawmanning
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I’m sorry, but I’m still hung up on the whole “Luffy is his own friend/crew mate” thing, it’s hands down the absolute funniest shit anyone here has ever said and really, REALLY tells us a fuckton about the person who wrote (and continues defending!) it and what their offline life must be like
Never though I would say that.
So the amount of people in the fucking picture is 10, and the amount of people in the fucking list is 10…
Because the author said so…
And at the same time using the number (as I quote: Strawhat count) & picture as his argument, using “the author said so” as his argument while at the same time denying what the the author said because he thinks “Vivi doesn’t contribute to Strawhat count”
It’s clear then that it’s ten. Vivi doesn’t contribute to the count both in the number or in the picture, therefore the 5.5 & her being in the picture “doesn’t contribute to the count”, simply because the author said so. 5.5 is her fucking designated number. It’s like Robin’s number is 7, Nami is 3, and so on; but Robin is 6th to be recruited, Nami is 2nd to be recruited, and so on. But still during promotion pictures there are 10 people. Basic mathematics. You can’t be fucking serious that you can’t make any difference between designated number, order number, and total amount. Jeez
And using your arguments of “Jinbe is the 10th and no one is joining” and “the author said so.”, then they help my case of Vivi not joining. You said “no one is joining”, that includes Vivi whom you brought up in the first place (and in your vote); and for “the author said so”, the chance gets higher since the “author” said that Usopp will always be the weakest. Vivi is weaker than Usopp, therefore Vivi isn’t joining, because the author said so.
Conclusion: Vivi isn’t joining, well because you said “no one’s joining”, “no more than 10”, and because “the author said that Usopp will always be the weakest.”
Man, what a waste of effort. I feel sorry.
Problem solved
When I thought this couldn’t get any dumber, some people really dig a new low. Sorry I’m wheezing because of the laugh
Because the author said so…
And at the same time using the number (as I quote: Strawhat count) & picture as his argument, using “the author said so” as his argument while at the same time denying what the the author said because he thinks “Vivi doesn’t contribute to Strawhat count”
It’s clear then that it’s ten. Vivi doesn’t contribute to the count both in the number or in the picture, therefore the 5.5 & her being in the picture “doesn’t contribute to the count”, simply because the author said so. 5.5 is her fucking designated number. It’s like Robin’s number is 7, Nami is 3, and so on; but Robin is 6th to be recruited, Nami is 2nd to be recruited, and so on. But still during promotion pictures there are 10 people. Basic mathematics. You can’t be fucking serious that you can’t make any difference between designated number, order number, and total amount. Jeez
And using your arguments of “Jinbe is the 10th and no one is joining” and “the author said so.”, then they help my case of Vivi not joining. You said “no one is joining”, that includes Vivi whom you brought up in the first place (and in your vote); and for “the author said so”, the chance gets higher since the “author” said that Usopp will always be the weakest. Vivi is weaker than Usopp, therefore Vivi isn’t joining, because the author said so.
Conclusion: Vivi isn’t joining, well because you said “no one’s joining”, “no more than 10”, and because “the author said that Usopp will always be the weakest.”
Man, what a waste of effort. I feel sorry.
Problem solved
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When I thought this couldn’t get any dumber, some people really dig a new low. Sorry I’m wheezing because of the laugh
Simple as
I’m sorry, but I’m still hung up on the whole “Luffy is his own friend/crew mate” thing, it’s hands down the absolute funniest shit anyone here has ever said and really, REALLY tells us a fuckton about the person who wrote (and continues defending!) it and what their offline life must be like
Jinbei is officlally titled Strawhat #10, therefore he is the tenth member
Simple as
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