[FNZ] Salem of Lies Round 5 : Town of Salem
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Who said that DA is town exactly?
This is something you have blindly been pushing like accertained all the time.
Heck even if Poison is town he can very well not be an LO because I'm the legit LO.
His counterclaim doesn't make sense for the way it transpired.
To me it's clear that he is part of mafia and mafia is framing me pushing for my lynch with a well assested plan supporting it.
They are eating over the fact I claimed I was blocked and pushing over.
This is something you have blindly been pushing like accertained all the time.
Heck even if Poison is town he can very well not be an LO because I'm the legit LO.
His counterclaim doesn't make sense for the way it transpired.
To me it's clear that he is part of mafia and mafia is framing me pushing for my lynch with a well assested plan supporting it.
They are eating over the fact I claimed I was blocked and pushing over.
ON BETA / DRAGO
Last to claim RB'd on a night after a consort dies to SK is very suspicious.
Though all 3 should be put in the suspicious category until the SK is found.
I really don't like your response towards Beta being scum. It feels like you've known he was scum the entire round but articulate the very reason later on, but still were confident enough throughout the round to pin him down and (jokingly or otherwise) pronounce him scum and ignore him.
Flowers has a good point here, I'm not liking Drago so far.
I'd love to VFR here, but without a clearly defined list, I don't think it's effective. If we have a clear, outed scum, we shouldn't rely in the jailer who may or may not still be around. Nothing is confirmed with a dead and cleaned townie. It's imperative that we lynch Finalbeta due to him having the most inconsistencies in his post and greatest likelihood to be evil, but both Rej / Reborn should be kept on the short list for possible SK if Beta is cleared.
On Dark Admiral / Poison Chan
i'm sorry my target was @Dark Admiral I have made a mistake !!!!!!!! 
But this would set Dark Admital as Lookout, Forger or Witch. And DA has soft confirmed he's LO... Things to think on.
Did Dark ever elaborate on this? I might've sped through the pages, so every last post isn't as vivid. But this feels more like Witch speak, maybe?
Way too many inconsistencies. FB's results are nil as he claims RB'd though. Important to remember. Though, if Dark Admiral is Witch, it's likely that Poison Chan is town. Mafia can win alongside Witch and usually they would try to help one another instead of throw each other under the bus.
MISC POSTS
NW is town, yeah. If we have a witch (who claimed to be Witch'd again?) then they're still around. They have 1 Night Defense per game, meaning they can be attacked at night and live through it one time. And unless we have two Neutral Evil resulting in NW being a dead Jester...? Unlikely.
This seems more like an unintentional slip than that though.
Go into greater depth for me. I don't read Flowers as scum.
Precisely. No one claimed to be jailed. So the player who is Jailer either said not to jail anyone (odd) or more likely, could've been the person cleaned. Likewise, the person who was jailed might not know to confirm the fact he was jailed?
It's imperative to do so, to keep track of who was acting what night and who wasn't. So if you were jailed, speak up.
What's being said here? Possibly a cleaned role early?
MY READS
Possible SK's (until proven otherwise)
Reborn
Rej
Finalbeta
Possible Mafia
Reborn
Kiwipom
Dragomir
WITCH
Dark Admiral
TOWN
Flowers
Poison Chan
Queen
Out of the three, I'm most confident Drago is Mafia. He's been very smarmy throughout the round so far and nonchalant with his declaration that Beta is SK. Feels like he knew before hand. Add to the fact Mafia cannot strategize over the SK murdering the consort in day phase, and it impresses how most likely, you can see two or the rest of the Mafia team trying to lynch the same player and trying to support the same evidence. They're less coordinated.
For the three SK candidates, it's mostly because they were all RB'd, but I'm 90% confident it's Beta off his claims and how he's acted. Same with Dark Admiral for witch.
So, my plan for the town would probably be to lynch Beta today, if we have a Jailer, execute Dark Admiral tonight and go into the next day phase questioning the three people I mentioned heavily. With TI (town investigators) still in play, we might be able to snag someone from that team. Though Sheriff's can't get fair reads on the godfather, we have a Mafioso and Janitor that can be caught still.
It's also worth noting that if Beta isn't scum, Homelander should be someone we look at. But I doubt it.
For any Town Protection (bodgyguards / doctors) I would suggest being on Flowers or Poison Chan due to their claimed roles so far.
@TheAncientCenturion If DA is the Witch as you think, I'd still be the claimed Lookout. So either Rej or Reborn are supposed to be the SK, unless AL loves to make us all sit on the plaster.
Some misc stuff I thought up after writing that;
It makes sense that Mafia would want to RB Beta early on if they had experience with him in earlier games. Keep Beta, if he had a role that was linked to investigations, away from them. Beta is persistent once he thinks he's found a link. But, they didn't count on Beta being SK.
Also, I forgot to actually vote Finalbeta. Reread that post at least thrice, and that slipped my finishing statements.
@AL sama Vote Lynch Finalbeta
It makes sense that Mafia would want to RB Beta early on if they had experience with him in earlier games. Keep Beta, if he had a role that was linked to investigations, away from them. Beta is persistent once he thinks he's found a link. But, they didn't count on Beta being SK.
Also, I forgot to actually vote Finalbeta. Reread that post at least thrice, and that slipped my finishing statements.
@AL sama Vote Lynch Finalbeta
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@TheAncientCenturion I was confident on Beta being scum this whole time. His voyeur claim was absolute nonsense and I didn't believe thing that he posted after that. Doing it for reactions? Horseshit. Even though I was confident on him being scum, I didn't realize that he was the SK until after Dark had made his claim. That only increased my already high confidence on Beta's alignment. There's nothing scummy about that progression.
About the jailor thing, that role is incredibly likely to be in this. Damn near every ToS game I have ever played has contained the role. I've played games where it also didn't, but looking at the circumstance here, it probably exists. Why? Because this is the first ToS game on the site. Half the players don't understand the mechanics fully yet. Jailor is a basic role and easy to work with. That's why I believe it's here.
But I just realized something. Nobody has claimed to be jailed yet.
Hold up.
About the jailor thing, that role is incredibly likely to be in this. Damn near every ToS game I have ever played has contained the role. I've played games where it also didn't, but looking at the circumstance here, it probably exists. Why? Because this is the first ToS game on the site. Half the players don't understand the mechanics fully yet. Jailor is a basic role and easy to work with. That's why I believe it's here.
But I just realized something. Nobody has claimed to be jailed yet.
Hold up.
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1 @Reborn
2 @Dark Admiral
3 @True God Moe
4 @Homelander
5 @Celestia
6 @Poison Chan
7 @All_Red
8 @Finalbeta
9 @TheAncientCenturion
10 @NeutralWatcher cleaned N1
11 @Flower
12 @Queen
13 @Relapse Consort killed N1
14 @Kiwipom
15 @Rej
16 @Dragomir
2 @Dark Admiral
3 @True God Moe
4 @Homelander
5 @Celestia
6 @Poison Chan
7 @All_Red
8 @Finalbeta
9 @TheAncientCenturion
10 @NeutralWatcher cleaned N1
11 @Flower
12 @Queen
13 @Relapse Consort killed N1
14 @Kiwipom
15 @Rej
16 @Dragomir
If you have been jailed N1 please come out and say so. This is important information that could help decide how our plan will be.
Something I said in my post. No one claimed to be Jailed. Possibly someone inactive, like Celestia (albeit it's in the morning for her IIRC) or someone doesn't know to claim such things.
And I agree, Beta is the SK. But I don't like how you've acted towards this. You were one of the first to come out and declare Beta's scum, but you've been almost dismissive of discussion on it and passed it off as a 100% thing. Your actions strike me as someone who knew Beta was scum and couldn't justify it concretely.
And I agree, Beta is the SK. But I don't like how you've acted towards this. You were one of the first to come out and declare Beta's scum, but you've been almost dismissive of discussion on it and passed it off as a 100% thing. Your actions strike me as someone who knew Beta was scum and couldn't justify it concretely.
A claim doesn't mean anything legitimate. We could have zero look outs this game and have a bunch of spies and sheriff's, for all you know. (In fact, don't we have two TI claims in the form of Poison Chan and Flowers?)
I agree he's scum, but I think you lunged onto that too quickly, alongside other players. And your attitude towards Beta after it was far too casual. Even if it's a joke, saying you blocked him and not deciding to even talk to him too much sets off red lights in my head.
I agree he's scum, but I think you lunged onto that too quickly, alongside other players. And your attitude towards Beta after it was far too casual. Even if it's a joke, saying you blocked him and not deciding to even talk to him too much sets off red lights in my head.
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@TheAncientCenturion I hate your plan. Dark Admiral has a higher chance of being town than Beta does. It's not safe at all to have him be killed by the jailor instead of the confirmed scum. That's not optimal. Furthermore, I believe DA is town.
I was suspicious of FB because there was a lot of inconsistencies in his posts and I wanted to prove it. Especially when he tried to cast suspicion on Flower and saying that his slip was intentional, I wanted to make sure that the other townies see that it was definitiely not something that should be ignored. I don't understand why by being suspicious of FB would put me as a suspect.
Lynch the scum in front of us in case;
- The Jailer is already cleaned.
- The Jailer doesn't believe Beta is scum.
- The Jailer is RBed by one of the two escorts.
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