Character Discussion Shanks has the most terrifying bounty in the entire series

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#1
4,048,900,000 Berry... it's not that much, compared to the greats, huh? A decent bit below Kaido and Big Mom, and far below his captain, Roger, and his rival, Whitebeard.

Bounties are issues based on
-Territory (Big Mom/Kaido)
-Being a threat to the WG (Robin)
-Connections to other powerful people (Ace)
-Power (Roger/Whitebeard)

Shanks has little territory shown so far, and refuses to dominate territories like Big Mom and Kaido. His force comes from his crew, not from creating fortresses like Whole Cake Island or Onigashima. Shanks doesn't have a giant island to invade, as far as we know. He comes as he pleases. Shanks is not a threat in terms of territory.

Shanks showed up in Marineford, with the ability to turn the tides by siding with Blackbeard/the Whitebeard pirates against the Marines. Instead, he did the opposite, and ended the fighting, aiding the Marines, who were about to deal with the remnants of Whitebeard's crew + Blackbeard. Shanks also appeared at Mary Geoise, the seat of the WG's power, to speak directly with the Gorosei. Shanks has a clear level of diplomacy with the WG, and is not seen as a direct threat by them.

Shanks's bounty is definitely based on his connections to Roger, but, not everyone associated with Roger received gigantic bounties. And, Shanks has no direct lineage with Roger, he was just a cabin boy on his ship.

Shank's bounty is completely based on his power. Not evil deeds. Not because he's a threat to the WG. Not because he holds great territory.

Shanks's bounty is entirely based on how fucking strong he and his crew are.

Blackbeard has two (I believe three) broken Devil Fruits, a hoard of powerful pirates, a massive amount of territory, and great connections to history and powerful pirates, yet isn't over 3 billion yet.

Shanks has the most terrifying bounty in the entire series, because it is calculated by his crew's raw power, rather than through acts of actual piracy, like Big Mom and Kaido.

Shanks will have the most powerful Haki of modern pirates, and it's going to be amazing to witness.
 
#5
Pirate captains bounties do vary in terms of Power aka Reach influence Territory and Men and adding of course Personal Strength. As you have said on your post. We have no idea how Shanks Bounty works.

-Big Mom has an entire Empire with so many islands and so many Strong Executives. her bounty is less than Kaido
-Kaido for all we know he has 3 islands (Onigashima - Iron island somewhere - Wano). his bounty is more than Big Mom
-Shanks we at least can confirm 1 island (the one barto invaded) And the Marines praises his crew alongside him. his bounty is less than BM and Kaido

- With what we know so far - in term of actual Power and Territory and a huge network and dealings Big Mom should have a higher Bounty than both Kaido and Shanks.

- Shanks bounty is understandable but Kaido?

The only two Character in the series that their bounty will only reflect their threat are (Weevil and Mihawk). I will not be Surprised if Mihawk's bounty is just 1billion. That should tell us how one of the strongest people in the world are worth then we can apply that to all characters.
 
#8
Imagine if Shanks has a bigger bounty than Kaido and Mom
Fandom will keep on hyping even more up
And new claim would be bounty = power lvl is legit
And it would be hot topic
But the Rocks duo is higher.
so the bounties aren't talk much

Kaido bounty is way more impressive, with an incompetent crew.
Been higher than Big mom who is alot more senior and was bigger name starting from Roger's era.
Only 4M less than legendary Whitebeard who is portrayed above everyone and look-up upon by even his Yonko peers
And 6M above Shanks who is the most mysterious and with the most terrifying crew.

Shanks achieve his bounty by his own pure strength meanwhile naturally born monsters like Kaido and Big mom are through with territory and piracy?? What a double standards with bunch of headcanons
This two Rocks duo are portrayed as freak of nature, who embodies nothing but sheer power and strength, been trying to sell to World Govt for their raw strength and combat power since child
Big mom has Dressrosa Luffy bounty when she's a kid just by her sheer strength alone with no crew and status.

Bounties are issued base on:
Territory (Kaido/Mom)
Power( Roger/WB)
???? Really
The downplay of the Rocks duo are top notch lmaoo. If you wanna talk about territory and threat to WG.
WB dominated most New world region and has most territories and affiliates under him, with their fleet spread the across large portion of New world, as per Ace novel which is canon and by logical thinking.
Roger who got an even more boost through fame, and the status of being crowned as the PK who reach the ends of the World with finding all secrets of the world and history which pose serious threat to WG

If it's not for their sheer individual monstrous strength and power, Kaido and BM won't even reach this high status. So give more respect to them a little bit.
 
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#9
4,048,900,000 Berry... it's not that much, compared to the greats, huh? A decent bit below Kaido and Big Mom, and far below his captain, Roger, and his rival, Whitebeard.

Bounties are issues based on
-Territory (Big Mom/Kaido)
-Being a threat to the WG (Robin)
-Connections to other powerful people (Ace)
-Power (Roger/Whitebeard)

Shanks has little territory shown so far, and refuses to dominate territories like Big Mom and Kaido. His force comes from his crew, not from creating fortresses like Whole Cake Island or Onigashima. Shanks doesn't have a giant island to invade, as far as we know. He comes as he pleases. Shanks is not a threat in terms of territory.

Shanks showed up in Marineford, with the ability to turn the tides by siding with Blackbeard/the Whitebeard pirates against the Marines. Instead, he did the opposite, and ended the fighting, aiding the Marines, who were about to deal with the remnants of Whitebeard's crew + Blackbeard. Shanks also appeared at Mary Geoise, the seat of the WG's power, to speak directly with the Gorosei. Shanks has a clear level of diplomacy with the WG, and is not seen as a direct threat by them.

Shanks's bounty is definitely based on his connections to Roger, but, not everyone associated with Roger received gigantic bounties. And, Shanks has no direct lineage with Roger, he was just a cabin boy on his ship.

Shank's bounty is completely based on his power. Not evil deeds. Not because he's a threat to the WG. Not because he holds great territory.

Shanks's bounty is entirely based on how fucking strong he and his crew are.

Blackbeard has two (I believe three) broken Devil Fruits, a hoard of powerful pirates, a massive amount of territory, and great connections to history and powerful pirates, yet isn't over 3 billion yet.

Shanks has the most terrifying bounty in the entire series, because it is calculated by his crew's raw power, rather than through acts of actual piracy, like Big Mom and Kaido.

Shanks will have the most powerful Haki of modern pirates, and it's going to be amazing to witness.

knowing Shanks is not active enemy of government
knowing Shanks is only 39

yes ... I doubt Roger had a 4 Bil Bounty at 39
 
#12
They have a better past than Shanks..And this will not be without effect..Their history is even longer than Shanks's captaincy
talking about seniority or anything
Don't think it doesn't effect much either
if so, the same could be said about Whitebeard
He has lot more history and achievements, his pirate life is much more than anybody.

If Shanks would achieve anything more right now and also something to do with bounty increase, it would be another story.
But as far as it goes this is Shanks peak and his potential both in status and achievements.
He already a top tier with top lvl crews and earned a legit Yonko status
Whether he maybe much younger than other can't be taken into consideration. He may as well reach his prime much earliar compared to the rest. Meaning he is already where he is supposed to be at this stage, irrespective of how young and short captaincy he has compared to other Yonko. Unless it's proven that Shanks continue to grow.

Roger for instance was 39 yo when he beat Rocks crew with Garp and only started his era.
He could very well already be in his prime but his notoriety, legacy and achievements keep on
going up until he dies.
Will Shanks be similar??
Will Shanks make his move( according to Oda)
and achieve even more and continue building up his legacy at this stage??
Let's see ..............
 
#13
Given what Oda did with Kid and Law's bounties, I think bounties are determined solely due to feats/perceived feats.
Kid, Law, and Luffy defeated kaido and big mom, therefore their bounties are 3 billion. It doesn't matter that Luffy has a far better crew.

Luffy's crew strength is clearly what made him an emperor, however, but bounty is just a determination of feats. Its why pre-skip Luffy had higher bounty than post skip zoro up until wano.

While Zoro is obviously much stronger than pre-skip Luffy, pre-skip Luffy had better feats. He escaped impel down, something only done previously by Shiki. He also fought in marineford, taking on the admirals and freeing Ace.
 

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#14
Pirate captains bounties do vary in terms of Power aka Reach influence Territory and Men and adding of course Personal Strength. As you have said on your post. We have no idea how Shanks Bounty works.

-Big Mom has an entire Empire with so many islands and so many Strong Executives. her bounty is less than Kaido
-Kaido for all we know he has 3 islands (Onigashima - Iron island somewhere - Wano). his bounty is more than Big Mom
-Shanks we at least can confirm 1 island (the one barto invaded) And the Marines praises his crew alongside him. his bounty is less than BM and Kaido

- With what we know so far - in term of actual Power and Territory and a huge network and dealings Big Mom should have a higher Bounty than both Kaido and Shanks.

- Shanks bounty is understandable but Kaido?

The only two Character in the series that their bounty will only reflect their threat are (Weevil and Mihawk). I will not be Surprised if Mihawk's bounty is just 1billion. That should tell us how one of the strongest people in the world are worth then we can apply that to all characters.
Good points. I think the biggest reason the WG feared Kaido more than Big Mom is how they operated.

Big Mom has a ton of territory, but is fairly harmless to the WG. The people she generally attacks are people who fail to pay her sweets for her protection services. She mostly keeps to herself, and her overall goal of creating a paradise where all races can live together really isn't threatening to the WG.

Kaido is a fucking madman who's broken people out of prisons (King); has been manipulating the WG through Seastone trade; is trying to create as many weapons as possibly to fuel a massive world war; and attempted to raid Marineford during Whitebeard' attack. Kaido is fucking insane. Big Mom wants to throw tea parties, Kaido is literally trying to create a world-ending war. I think it makes sense that his bounty is higher.

I'd imagine Weevil has to be higher than Jack, and Mihawk has to be over 3 Billion to me. Law's crew is just ASS there's no way Law deserves a bounty 2 billion Berry higher than Mihawk.

Fuck, I'll take Mihawk's army of sword-wielding Humandrills over Law's crew. The war-apes who spent the time skip training with Zoro? Sorry, Bepo. It's a jungle out there.

Do you have Shanks over Kaido power wise?
 
#16
Good points. I think the biggest reason the WG feared Kaido more than Big Mom is how they operated.

Big Mom has a ton of territory, but is fairly harmless to the WG. The people she generally attacks are people who fail to pay her sweets for her protection services. She mostly keeps to herself, and her overall goal of creating a paradise where all races can live together really isn't threatening to the WG.

Kaido is a fucking madman who's broken people out of prisons (King); has been manipulating the WG through Seastone trade; is trying to create as many weapons as possibly to fuel a massive world war; and attempted to raid Marineford during Whitebeard' attack. Kaido is fucking insane. Big Mom wants to throw tea parties, Kaido is literally trying to create a world-ending war. I think it makes sense that his bounty is higher.

I'd imagine Weevil has to be higher than Jack, and Mihawk has to be over 3 Billion to me. Law's crew is just ASS there's no way Law deserves a bounty 2 billion Berry higher than Mihawk.

Fuck, I'll take Mihawk's army of sword-wielding Humandrills over Law's crew. The war-apes who spent the time skip training with Zoro? Sorry, Bepo. It's a jungle out there.

Do you have Shanks over Kaido power wise?
What you said about Kaido could be the reason.

The reason why i said i wouldn't be surprised if Mihawk's bounty is 1bill. Its because he is just 1 man and him having a bounty close to Pirate crew members makes no sense :-
- Captains bounties are overall Strength, Influence, and Strong Crew Members.
- Crew members bounties are overall Strength, And being associated with the Crew that they serve in. (Nami, Brook, Sanji gained a bounty raise after Dressrosa without doing anything by just being a Straw Hat)

Why Law and Kid gained a bounty raise too is because they are in a Pirate alliance who took down 2 Emperors. If they weren't not Wano Luffy would have 5bill by now.

So whatever Mihawk's bounty is it should only indicate his Strength alone. Unless he joins Buggy lol.

Do you have Shanks over Kaido power wise?
If by Power you mean (Influence Territory Reach and Man Power) I would say they are Equal because with Shanks Crew it can equalize the gap.

If by Power you mean Strength. I would bet on Kaido.
 

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#18
if its based off power
who is the strongest person
shanks took down
The person in the story who has the most reason to actually hate Shanks is Garp, IMO. Garp tried so hard to keep Luffy hidden, and keep him from being connected to pirates/his father. And Shanks fucked the whole thing up, gave the kid a Devil Fruit accidentally, and convinced Luffy that pirates are the hypest shit in the world.

This is a crazy, wild guess, but I wouldn't be surprised if Garp hunted down Shanks after finding out how he had influenced Luffy, and actually got beaten by Shanks. I have Shanks as 3rd strongest in the verse after Imu at 1st and Kaido at 2nd. Shanks sure as hell beat someone to get where he is.
 
#19
Yet only Kaido became Yonko mainly due to his own strength
BM because of her own strength and her kids

Territories wasn't the main factor for these 2

While Shanks is Yonko mainly because of his crew! His leadership to have such loyal top guys as YCs.
 
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