Questions & Mysteries Aramaki’s Past: How Many Top Tiers Have We Not Met in the OP World?

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#1


So, this is something many have speculated on in the OP community, but Aramaki has me especially intrigued.

This man is a fan of Sakazuki’s extreme brand of justice, and also openly refers to himself among the Marines when he says “we marines”, showing imo that he does have some level of pride in himself now being a marine unlike Fujitora.

He seems extremely battle hardened from the fact that he has a black blade, to the fact that he apprehended both King and Queen along with others with ease, to the fact that not even an alliance that took down two Emperors is enough to deter him from attacking.

So this begs the question: where did Aramaki come from? What was he doing before he was drafted into the Marines? We can assume he never joined the Navy before Sakazuki became Fleet Admiral because he viewed the Navy as being “too soft” for his liking, but how was such a powerful figure lying in wait in the OP world, and he seemingly never made major moves against any major pirates or other criminals? I know the OP world is a huge place, but you would think a guy who can easily defeat top Yonko crew members while also not fearing the Yonko would’ve made ripples that we would’ve heard of before now.

And this brings into question a more broad topic: how many Yonko/Admiral level individuals are lying in wait that we have never even heard of? Are their dozens? Hundreds? Is top tier strength something that we have yet to fully understand the scope of? Or have we pretty much met all of the top tier characters we’re going to meet at this point?

Share your thoughts :)

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First of all, not even Fleet Admirals reached WSC / WSM levels before, so Yonko remains supreme.

Secondly, BB was suppose to be strong enough to fight 3 Ladmirals at the same time in the early designs according to Databook Green. And at the EoS, he can probably reach that level.

''Top tier'' term was never established fully. Rayleigh literally calls Katakuri as one of the strongest people in the world, that's being a top tier, but Katakuri is not even close to Yonko level, let alone WSC / WSM levels.

BB perhaps will be on a level like the difference between Crocodile >>> Arlong

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...-be-on-different-level-than-even-kaido.28242/

Then Blackbeard can be >>> Kaido even.

The parallels are there.
 
#6
There's probably a decent amount of top tiers out there. For example, Majority of Roger's crew which also had youngins like Taro at the time is MIA, for all we know some of them mfs grew up to be on par with the likes of Beckman. One of those reverie countries could hold a top tier or two.

This man is a fan of Sakazuki’s extreme brand of justice, and also openly refers to himself among the Marines when he says “we marines”, showing imo that he does have some level of pride in himself now being a marine unlike Fujitora.
Idk about this bruh think this is a slight misrepresentation of his character.

He's not a fan of Akainu's extreme brand of justice, that's virtually impossible since he's created as an anti-thesis to Kizaru/Akainu the reps of Absolute Justice. What's he's a fan of is Akainu's methodology of getting things done without cutting corners or leaving things half-assed (refer to Akainu's statement of "if you're gonna do something, do it completely" back in Ohara), which is not the same as Absolute Justice.

And not sure what specifically you mean by "unlike Fujitora". Since, Fujitora is arguably the most prideful in terms of being a Marine. Even unlike Akainu, he's the one who's trying to make sure Marines handle everything on their own without the need of any help from criminals. He's the one telling Akainu and them to put faith in the SSG (which is part of the marines).
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#7
Fujitora is arguably the most prideful in terms of being a Marine. Even unlike Akainu, he's the one who's trying to make sure Marines handle everything on their own without the need of any help from criminals.
Dafuq bro? I almost did a spit take when I read this shit lol.

Fujitora, the same guy who intentionally made sure his marines did nothing so that Luffy and law would receive the credit for taking down Doflamingo, and not the marines? That guy makes sure the marines don’t need help from criminals? Lol

Fujitora, the guy who publicly shamed himself via his apology to King Riku for the whole world to see? That guy is prideful???

Send some of that alcohol my way lmfao.
 
#8
Well at the very least I think it's safe to say all of the remaining members of Xebec's crew are top tiers since all of the ones we've met so far (WB, Kaido, BM, Shiki) have been top tiers.

So Captain John, Silver Axe and Whang Zhi were probably all top tiers as well
 
#9
I say he is more like bounty hunter or person who hate pirates before joining marine.

Greenbull is basically what happen if zoro join marine,

Have captain Morgan axe not being corrupt, zoro would end up joining the marine due draft.

’If garp or Kuzan the slacker from regular show can join the marine , zoro would have good time to do marine job snd become vice admiral or admiral.

Also people can be top tier by working out and do average jobs without becoming marine or pirate.
 
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B

Ballel

#10
There are probably half a dozen top tiers in the story we don’t know about.

For example, I assume that the leaders of Elbaf for example, who have never been mentioned by name in the story, are top tiers.

In the case of Aramaki, I think he was most likely a bounty hunter pre-joining the marines.
Bounty hunter would be great. There is a serious lack of bounty hunters in the story.
It would explain his ruthlessness.
 
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So, this is something many have speculated on in the OP community, but Aramaki has me especially intrigued.

This man is a fan of Sakazuki’s extreme brand of justice, and also openly refers to himself among the Marines when he says “we marines”, showing imo that he does have some level of pride in himself now being a marine unlike Fujitora.

He seems extremely battle hardened from the fact that he has a black blade, to the fact that he apprehended both King and Queen along with others with ease, to the fact that not even an alliance that took down two Emperors is enough to deter him from attacking.

So this begs the question: where did Aramaki come from? What was he doing before he was drafted into the Marines? We can assume he never joined the Navy before Sakazuki became Fleet Admiral because he viewed the Navy as being “too soft” for his liking, but how was such a powerful figure lying in wait in the OP world, and he seemingly never made major moves against any major pirates or other criminals? I know the OP world is a huge place, but you would think a guy who can easily defeat top Yonko crew members while also not fearing the Yonko would’ve made ripples that we would’ve heard of before now.

And this brings into question a more broad topic: how many Yonko/Admiral level individuals are lying in wait that we have never even heard of? Are their dozens? Hundreds? Is top tier strength something that we have yet to fully understand the scope of? Or have we pretty much met all of the top tier characters we’re going to meet at this point?

Share your thoughts :)

@Blackbeard @Owl Ki @AdmiralKinyagi @MarineHQ62 @Sentinel @Tyki_Mikk @King7 @ConquistadoR @Gol D. Roger @Van @Trueprodigy @God Buggy @God Tier Sovereignty @Wuuuke @The White Crane @AkainuTheGrimReaper @scoobie3 etc…
I think this is kinda hard to predict since top tiers we know nothing about means they don't necessarily feel the need to stand out and impress everybody else.

I should think there aren't that many, though, since the WG in general is bound to try to utilize them sooner or later, so staying hidden is not necessarily realistic.
 
#14
The one piece world is huge , blind fans think only pirates and marines are powerful because they represent something , or people with ambition and COC are strong , but we saw that's not true, there are probably just strong people everywhere from bounty hunters to merchants , same as shit fodder pirates and marines there are nobodys who are as strong as yc at least that just dont make trouble for the WG.
 
#15
Dafuq bro? I almost did a spit take when I read this shit lol.

Fujitora, the same guy who intentionally made sure his marines did nothing so that Luffy and law would receive the credit for taking down Doflamingo, and not the marines? That guy makes sure the marines don’t need help from criminals? Lol

Fujitora, the guy who publicly shamed himself via his apology to King Riku for the whole world to see? That guy is prideful???

Send some of that alcohol my way lmfao.
Following absolute justice, taking credit for others, doing as you're told by the World Government, and just mindlessly hunting down criminals without any application of context is not the only way to be a Marine lol.

@Bold, simply letting an ongoing conflict happen without taking part in it.. isn't receiving help from criminals my guy.

-> Not sure what this has to do with the Marines. This was his point against the World Government which allowed the Warlord System to exist and then continously overlooked the BS caused by the warlords. The result being fellow Marines not being able to take action. So what was his solution? Get Doflamingo defeated & then how the incompetency of the World Government, that allowed the people of Dressrosa to suffer.

-> Yes he publicly apologized to King Riku on behalf of the World Government, not the Marines. It was his pride as a soldier, as a marine... who's job is to protect the people. That led to him doing this:

He's making a statement, they the Marines who serve the people. Not the World Government's bitches. No man with pride wants to be given credit for shit they didn't do. His entire "abolishing the warlords" stems from his pride as a Marine.



This Marine officers talking about his actions righting the wrong that was done to them by the World Government. Other marines are taking pride in him, but he's not taking pride as a marine?

Is like the gangsta said if admittance of one mistake leads to you losing your face/trust/pride then my dawg you ain't had none in the first place. Taking a stance against the World Government for your fellow marines and so you could properly do your job as a marine isn't being a prideful marine? Come on bruhz.


Mans saying he don't need the Warlords, "scum of the sea" as Sengoku once put em. He don't wanna work with pirates who fuck up people's countries. Unlike the Fleet Admiral of the marines who supposedly hates criminals/pirates the most, but actually wanted to work with them.





This is the man who doesn't have any pride as a marine.. telling the Fleet Admiral of the marines who'd rather had Warlords continue to be under the WG... that yo TRUST The SSG, aka TRUST the Marines. But he lacks pride as a marine.. right.


Dude out here leaving lower ranking marine officers shook, by setting up correct on what a Marine's duty is. It's not to go around hunting down criminals, it's to protect the people. The former being a an action sometimes taken to achieve the latter. That's not a prideful marine?




This is a man who's been in the Navy for about a year or so and is leaving long time marines stunned due to his ideology and stance against the World Government as a Marine. Yea he could take down Doflamingo, which again doesn't solve the issue, instead only covers it up.




Idk how you can say the man who pushes for Marine self-reliance and independence the most so Marines can do their jobs properly is the one that doesn't take pride in being a marine. Especially when other marines are taking pride in him. Lowering your head for admitting the mistakes done by you higherups or even by you doesn't lower one's pride.



I think what you might've meant was he lacks arrogance or egotism as a marine. Cause pride def. ain't the thing he lacking.
 
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I hope he was formally a bounty hunter.
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And not sure what specifically you mean by "unlike Fujitora". Since, Fujitora is arguably the most prideful in terms of being a Marine
He's the most prideful admiral for sure. But not the most prideful when it comes to being a marine.
 
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I hope he was formally a bounty hunter.
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He's the most prideful admiral for sure. But not the most prideful when it comes to being a marine.
And what is being prideful as a marine?

The actions that Lee pointed out all stem from him taking pride as a marine, due to other marines who had their pride affected by the warlords, due to the World Government creating a system that restricted the marines from being able to take action against criminals that caused harm to the people.


If you mean the most prideful in terms of "can't see the marines errors or the fuck ups of the World Government, just thinks Marines are right on everything or don't need any fixing", then yea that's not him, he's too real.
 
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There are probably half a dozen top tiers in the story we don’t know about.

For example, I assume that the leaders of Elbaf for example, who have never been mentioned by name in the story, are top tiers.

In the case of Aramaki, I think he was most likely a bounty hunter pre-joining the marines.
First post makes the only mistake even possible. We have no way to put a number on something like that
 
#20
Well, there's definitely not like 20 or more top tiers that we haven't met lol
20? This is just another random number you're pulling out of your hat.

But yeah, there are definitely some killers out there if a 4 or 5 billion berry bounty is supposed to make any sense. Likely not many, and less likely that many people know them if they haven't been recruited one way or the other.
 
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