Break Week Oda did coc fans dirty with Chinjao

[Herrera95]

What you said is more true about Zoro..Luffy took this hit and after analyzing it, he managed to use it..And this is not a power that everyone can use..Of course, in the next arc, my opinion is completely rejected

Agree. Luffy at least already knew how to control his CoC. Zoro learned everything together. Or maybe he didn't control he just unleashed.

 

[Aknolagon]

Might as well you add Zoro and Kidd to thr list then

Then you should check again what are the qualities to have CoC and being a conqueror.

His dream is just literally to become the WSS. His will was many times hyped by others and he wants to be the strongest so those are directly the qualities of a King and a conqueror.

Same goes for Kidd, he wants to become the PK by standing above others.

What ambition karakuri or yamato have or what they wanna conquer ?

 

[mmd]

What ambition karakuri or yamato have or what they wanna conquer ?

What ambitions do oden or Ray or Chinjao have?

 

[The Legend]

Don Chinjao has the "Don" and had the hardest head in the world something that did not belong to anyone else with which he was able to split continents and compete ruthlessly with Garp and Roger. He is a legendary pirate and that's why he had all those important dialogues with Luffy.

 

[KonyaruIchi]

didn't he lose against lao g? didn't he state that his son, who merely is the grand fleet's no3, is stronger than him?

He *was* strong, in his younger years. Dude is old as hell, lost his pointy head and his fighting spirit due to being beaten by Garp, so while current Chinjao is weak, his prime years were probably a lot more impressive.

 

[Ryuarashi]

Then you should check again what are the qualities to have CoC and being a conqueror.

His dream is just literally to become the WSS. His will was many times hyped by others and he wants to be the strongest so those are directly the qualities of a King and a conqueror.

Same goes for Kidd, he wants to become the PK by standing above others.

What ambition karakuri or yamato have or what they wanna conquer ?

You just proved that you have 0 understanding of what the qualities of a King are which is why you fail to understand why Yamato and Katakuri has CoC.

Heck you can also add Whitebeard to the list since he doesn't have a grand big ass goal like Luffy and Zoro.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Was special up until he came along. Warlords and yonkous that are part of the world powers, luffy and roger's son. But now not just chinjao but most likely sai too.

Chinjao was a legend, the only characters that don't deserve CoC are Doflamingo, Boa and Kata, we've seen their limits, no conqueror should be weaker than people without it.

 

[Big Boiii]

Was special up until he came along. Warlords and yonkous that are part of the world powers, luffy and roger's son. But now not just chinjao but most likely sai too.

CoC is not meant to be special in the New World, only within Paradise. Which is why Oda outright established in the Manga by Chinjao himself saying: "Countless..."

Spoiler

That's what separates the New World to the Paradise.

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Chinjao was a legend, the only characters that don't deserve CoC are Doflamingo, Boa and Kata, we've seen their limits, no conqueror should be weaker than people without it.

Boa: - never went all out a single time in the series

You: We've seen her limits

Bro what?

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Kidd

Never showed it and Kaido doesn't know what CoC is, same logic used by others to downplay legit CoC users.

Boa: - never went all out a single time in the series

If Boa was worth shit Oda wouldn't let her team up with 20 other characters against non canon garbage like Bullet who's probably under every canon YC1, Kata being the exception.

 

[Big Boiii]

Never showed it and Kaido doesn't know what CoC is, same logic used by others to downplay legit CoC users.

If Boa was worth shit Oda wouldn't let her team up with 20 other characters against non canon garbage like Bullet who's probably under every canon YC1, Kata being the exception.

Bullet who's meant to be far stronger than Prime Rayleigh in that movie? lol

 

[Finalbeta]

Prime chinjao >doflamingo

That man pushed Prime Garp moderately. It was insane.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Bullet who's meant to be far stronger than Prime Rayleigh in that movie? lol

The guy that got 1tapped by Roger or the guy that lost to G4 Luffy without any of Wano's fancy haki power ups?

 

[Big Boiii]

The guy that got 1tapped by Roger or the guy that lost to G4 Luffy without any of Wano's fancy haki power ups?

You're only proving why using that movie to gauge any character is a dumb idea lol.

 

[mrtsrdr]

coc is non standart power notation .d we cannot put any frame. Because does not exist

 

[Lor D. Coast]

You're only proving why using that movie to gauge any character is a dumb idea lol.

There's nothing wrong with the movie, I said Boa isn't shit, Bullet isn't shit and you used something that Buggy said to try and disprove it. Bullet lost to WCI Luffy.

 

[Big Boiii]

There's nothing wrong with the movie, I said Boa isn't shit, Bullet isn't shit and you used something that Buggy said to try and disprove it. Bullet lost to WCI Luffy.

Bullet stated to have been on par with prime Ray when he was on the crew
Bullet then ties with a scrub called Crocodile
Bullet gets destroyed by Roger, a person who Rayleigh is on the level of...

But yes nothing wrong with the movie. Movie is trash for powerscaling, it's fax. Not even sure why you're using non-canon material to judge canon powerlevels of characters.

 

[SakazOuki]

Never showed it and Kaido doesn't know what CoC is, same logic used by others to downplay legit CoC users.

If Boa was worth shit Oda wouldn't let her team up with 20 other characters against non canon garbage like Bullet who's probably under every canon YC1, Kata being the exception.

That’s called sales lol

 

[JoNdule]

Fanboys who don't wanna accept Garp is overrated and that Chinjao was low top tier in the past

Keep crying

Chinjao having CoC is reasonable that Zoro , Ray, kata, Yamato having it

 

[Aknolagon]

You just proved that you have 0 understanding of what the qualities of a King are which is why you fail to understand why Yamato and Katakuri has CoC.

Heck you can also add Whitebeard to the list since he doesn't have a grand big ass goal like Luffy and Zoro.

Please enlighten us what are the king and conqueror qualities of yamato ?

CoC was not related to your dream but your ambition and personality. How much you are willing to do it.

WB wanted a family yes but he was a true leader material, Ray, Zoro, Oden, Kidd, Chinjao same.
So yes go read again what is the meaning of CoC in this manga.

 

[stealthblack]

Chinjao was also the guy introduced in dressrosa and stopped being relevant in dressrosa. Oda clearly had no plans for him