Versus Battle EOS Ichigo vs. EOS Toriko
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There doesn't need to be explicit planet busting on screen for them to be treated as such, implications and statements are just as valid for powerscaling.
We know that Yhwach was fully capable of destroying the three realms at any time and would have done so if not stopped, he also served to maintain the existence of the realms after his defeat.
We know that The Soul King created those realms and was also capable of destroying them, not only that, but the very existence of those realms was dependant on him maintaining them.
We know that Senna can produce enough energy to force two of the realms away from each other, and Senna is complete fodder to people like Yhwach.
Even someone like fucking Gremmy, a literal retard, can imagine into existence a galaxy and countless stars, and while this is reality warping, he specifically uses said reality warping to amp his physicals and for his attacks.
These are all valid cosmic level feats, but whatever, you're just a drone who probably thinks Bleach is hill level.
We know that Yhwach was fully capable of destroying the three realms at any time and would have done so if not stopped, he also served to maintain the existence of the realms after his defeat.
We know that The Soul King created those realms and was also capable of destroying them, not only that, but the very existence of those realms was dependant on him maintaining them.
We know that Senna can produce enough energy to force two of the realms away from each other, and Senna is complete fodder to people like Yhwach.
Even someone like fucking Gremmy, a literal retard, can imagine into existence a galaxy and countless stars, and while this is reality warping, he specifically uses said reality warping to amp his physicals and for his attacks.
These are all valid cosmic level feats, but whatever, you're just a drone who probably thinks Bleach is hill level.
And this is why no one takes Bleach wank seriously
We’ve seen how he does so. Barely affected just the single planet all the fighting takes place in before getting owned by an arrow. Characters weaker than Toriko accomplish far greater with just the shockwaves of their punch. He’s a gradual planet destroyer over time. Universal my ass.
He didn’t create shit. The world was already existing with ancient Soul Reapers already around. All that happened was they sealed him up, mutilated him, and used him as the linchpin to divide the world between the living and the dead. To argue all this vague nonsense in anyway applicable in combat is laughable.
Senna along with an entire realm of Nobodies. On her own, she’s a subpar Shinigami below a Captain.
LMAO, this cringe is hilarious. Gremmy literally needs to clone himself to double his power just to make a meteor no bigger than a small mountain and that followed by a few more tricks and an explosion left him drained afterwards. And said meteor took a powerhouse like Kenpachi using Shikai to destroy. Nearly every other Sternritter and Captain was fucked if that meteor landed.
Bleach is complete dogshit compared even the most casual destruction feats done in Toriko
Nope, heard it all before. Try again Clorox wanker
We’ve seen how he does so. Barely affected just the single planet all the fighting takes place in before getting owned by an arrow. Characters weaker than Toriko accomplish far greater with just the shockwaves of their punch. He’s a gradual planet destroyer over time. Universal my ass.
He didn’t create shit. The world was already existing with ancient Soul Reapers already around. All that happened was they sealed him up, mutilated him, and used him as the linchpin to divide the world between the living and the dead. To argue all this vague nonsense in anyway applicable in combat is laughable.
Senna along with an entire realm of Nobodies. On her own, she’s a subpar Shinigami below a Captain.
LMAO, this cringe is hilarious. Gremmy literally needs to clone himself to double his power just to make a meteor no bigger than a small mountain and that followed by a few more tricks and an explosion left him drained afterwards. And said meteor took a powerhouse like Kenpachi using Shikai to destroy. Nearly every other Sternritter and Captain was fucked if that meteor landed.
Bleach is complete dogshit compared even the most casual destruction feats done in Toriko
Nope, heard it all before. Try again Clorox wanker
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So you not taking it seriously is the same thing as nobody taking it seriously? You vastly overestimate your own importance lmao.
Bullshit, Yhwach only fully intended to destroy the realms a mere few seconds before his death, he's an easy universe destroyer and that's a massive lowball when you factor in things like the Garganta and Mugen which can raise that far higher, you may not like it but they completely shit on fodder Toriko.
The primordial world existed before yes, that's not the three realms though, The Soul King's power is verbatim stated to be what created the Soul Society, Human World and Hueco Mundo, here's the quote;
If you want to argue semantics and say "well it was the five clan leaders that created them" then whatever, but it was done with his power as is directly stated.
And don't bother pretending that creation feats can't be applied to combat stats in any way, because I don't care for your opinion on that matter.
It doesn't matter how or what she used to do it, it's a cosmic feat, it wouldn't scale to Senna herself but to Yhwach who scales above it.
I never said Gremmy's feat wasn't an outlier, it obviously is, the point is that cosmic feats do exist in Bleach and it's not quite as weak as you're pretending.
Your insults are just as shit as your arguments, Bleach negs Toriko with ease, the god tiers absolutely brutalize Toriko physically and with hax it's just pathetic, Toriko has pretty much no decent hax.
Bullshit, Yhwach only fully intended to destroy the realms a mere few seconds before his death, he's an easy universe destroyer and that's a massive lowball when you factor in things like the Garganta and Mugen which can raise that far higher, you may not like it but they completely shit on fodder Toriko.
The primordial world existed before yes, that's not the three realms though, The Soul King's power is verbatim stated to be what created the Soul Society, Human World and Hueco Mundo, here's the quote;
If you want to argue semantics and say "well it was the five clan leaders that created them" then whatever, but it was done with his power as is directly stated.
And don't bother pretending that creation feats can't be applied to combat stats in any way, because I don't care for your opinion on that matter.
It doesn't matter how or what she used to do it, it's a cosmic feat, it wouldn't scale to Senna herself but to Yhwach who scales above it.
I never said Gremmy's feat wasn't an outlier, it obviously is, the point is that cosmic feats do exist in Bleach and it's not quite as weak as you're pretending.
Your insults are just as shit as your arguments, Bleach negs Toriko with ease, the god tiers absolutely brutalize Toriko physically and with hax it's just pathetic, Toriko has pretty much no decent hax.
Bleach is regularly mocked because of bullshit like this everywhere.
Didn’t even destroy the city he was on before getting owned by an arrow. Try again.
It’s just the original world with barriers set between living and dead.
Making barriers between life and death isn’t a feat you can argue in a fight and isn’t preventing Soul King from getting his skull caved in by Bambina
They don’t.
Scales to literally no one since again, Senna didn’t do it on her own but used an entire realm. We saw Yhwach showing, it’s was garbage.
Not even an outlier. Creating a portal to space doesn’t = creating an entire universe. Takes a lot out of Gremmy just to make a meteor and an explosion.
Heracles breathes and trashes the entire Bleach verse. And nothing of value was lost
Toriko even shits on Clorox’s “cosmic” feats that are little more than vague garbage with real cosmic showings. The Gourmet Gods treat entire galaxies as dinner tables and created a Big Bang that formed a multiverse.
Didn’t even destroy the city he was on before getting owned by an arrow. Try again.
It’s just the original world with barriers set between living and dead.
Making barriers between life and death isn’t a feat you can argue in a fight and isn’t preventing Soul King from getting his skull caved in by Bambina
They don’t.
Scales to literally no one since again, Senna didn’t do it on her own but used an entire realm. We saw Yhwach showing, it’s was garbage.
Not even an outlier. Creating a portal to space doesn’t = creating an entire universe. Takes a lot out of Gremmy just to make a meteor and an explosion.
Heracles breathes and trashes the entire Bleach verse. And nothing of value was lost
Toriko even shits on Clorox’s “cosmic” feats that are little more than vague garbage with real cosmic showings. The Gourmet Gods treat entire galaxies as dinner tables and created a Big Bang that formed a multiverse.
Every verse is mocked, why should I care? If your argument revolves around insulting a verse then it isn't a good argument.
You pretend to be impartial and then say stupid shit like this
You can't prove that, it's never mentioned or implied anywhere.
Creating a bare minimum universal sized collection of realms >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being a fodder star level Toriko character
It does scale to Yhwach though, and we know this because he was going to destroy the realms and the barriers separating them, why is this important? Because the realms and barriers literally tanked the explosion Senna caused that pushed the dimensions apart.
Yhwach able to destroy realms and barriers > Senna's explosion which couldn't do either
Saying he made a portal is headcanon and not provable, and the novel suggests otherwise and explicitly says he created outerspace.
Not at all, many Bleach characters trash Heracles with a mixture of hax and AP
Even putting aside Yhwach being universal, how the fuck is Heracles beating a guy that sees every possible future, can manipulate those futures as he sees fit and nulls every power he sees? And that's just one of Yhwach's powers.
I'm fully expecting you to answer that question with "he died to an arrow, he's fodder!"
You pretend to be impartial and then say stupid shit like this
You can't prove that, it's never mentioned or implied anywhere.
Creating a bare minimum universal sized collection of realms >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being a fodder star level Toriko character
It does scale to Yhwach though, and we know this because he was going to destroy the realms and the barriers separating them, why is this important? Because the realms and barriers literally tanked the explosion Senna caused that pushed the dimensions apart.
Yhwach able to destroy realms and barriers > Senna's explosion which couldn't do either
Saying he made a portal is headcanon and not provable, and the novel suggests otherwise and explicitly says he created outerspace.
Even putting aside Yhwach being universal, how the fuck is Heracles beating a guy that sees every possible future, can manipulate those futures as he sees fit and nulls every power he sees? And that's just one of Yhwach's powers.
I'm fully expecting you to answer that question with "he died to an arrow, he's fodder!"
Especially when it’s it’s got wankers as bad as you.
Your free to disprove Yhwach failing to even destroy a city with his almighty universe destroying powers.
Sure it is, creating the living and the dead is all they did and it was by dividing the existing world into those realms. Yhwach wants to remove the living and the dead by bringing down those barriers. Cool but worthless in a fight and really anything outside Bleach,
Realms of unknown size and destroying them gradually. Yhwach is barely city level garbage in a verse that doesn’t even approach planet busting. Try again.
Couldn’t even fully destroy a city in one shot.
Again, gradual and worthless in a fight. Toriko accomplishes more just by swinging in Yhwach’s direction.
Still say a portal to outer space. A character who needs to make effort just to make a mountain sized meteor and other things of much less scale in all their showings has fuck all to argue they can make even a planet with such shit for feats.
None can even put Heracles down given its durability and regeneration and nearly all of them die from Heracles exhaling in their direction.
Same way Mr Almighty lost: Illusions throwing off his perception, a stab in the back, a following Getsuga he was too slow to react to in time, and an arrow in the back.
I.e. blasting Yhwach before he even processes it happened.
He died to an arrow he didn’t see coming. Indeed he’s fodder for just about any Toriko character worth mentioning
You pretend to be impartial and then say stupid shit like this
Sure it is, creating the living and the dead is all they did and it was by dividing the existing world into those realms. Yhwach wants to remove the living and the dead by bringing down those barriers. Cool but worthless in a fight and really anything outside Bleach,
Realms of unknown size and destroying them gradually. Yhwach is barely city level garbage in a verse that doesn’t even approach planet busting. Try again.
Couldn’t even fully destroy a city in one shot.
Again, gradual and worthless in a fight. Toriko accomplishes more just by swinging in Yhwach’s direction.
Saying he made a portal is headcanon and not provable, and the novel suggests otherwise and explicitly says he created outerspace.
None can even put Heracles down given its durability and regeneration and nearly all of them die from Heracles exhaling in their direction.
Same way Mr Almighty lost: Illusions throwing off his perception, a stab in the back, a following Getsuga he was too slow to react to in time, and an arrow in the back.
I.e. blasting Yhwach before he even processes it happened.
He died to an arrow he didn’t see coming. Indeed he’s fodder for just about any Toriko character worth mentioning
Without going into detail what's going in this image unless you actually read Toriko then it's a massive shitstomp in favor of Toriko.
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Can you describe what is going on in that image?
Without going into detail what's going in this image unless you actually read Toriko then it's a massive shitstomp in favor of Toriko.
@Finalbeta
Can you describe what is going on in that image?
His Physical feats by EOS were early DBZ level. Ichigo doesn't even register. Let's not even go there with his White Appetite Demon that mad planet-busting Acacia shit himself
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My favourite feat is probably nearly destroying the entire fucking planet (Plus the Toriko world is ENORMOUS. Similar to HxH the Human world exists but then there is an area called the Gourmet World which makes the Toriko world possibly the size of Saturn, idk exact sizing)
Ichigo's most impressive feat sliced a medium-sized town in half.
Toriko was capable of that from about 15% of the way through the story, and with ease
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Yeah but Ichigo doesn't have those hax. Ichigo, like Toriko, is just a beat/cut em up kinda guy. He doesn't have stuff like Yhwach or Ichibei removing and absorbing powers, or manipulating the future etc. which would be problematic
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It doesn't even matter what in-verse hax other characters have. ICHIGO does not have Hax. He's just, in the context of bleach, really fuckin fast and strong with some power amps from having generic non-hax Quincy and non-hax Hollow powers. He doesn't change the future, infinitely resurrect and power amp himself or reverse damage etc. He just punches, kicks, slashes and shoots beams from his forehead.
The only bleach-verse characters that would be a problem for Toriko (because of hax) might be Yhwach (manipulating the future, but again he'd just avoid dying constantly and do nothing to Toriko himself) and Gerard (After maybe 1000 resurrections he could be stronger than Toriko). Toriko has an answer for everything else in the verse. A simple burst of gourmet energy would kill most of the hax characters and even if not, he can regenerate from being bifurcated, there's not much anyone like Lille or Yama can even do to him.
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I wasn't talking about Ichigo when mentioning hax, other characters became part of the discussion when it was said Toriko solos the verse, which is just factually false
As far as I remember, Toriko has literally zero hax, he's just a fucking brick.
- He can't do shit to Lille due to ridiculous intangibility and Lille himself bypasses durabiliy with the X-Axis
- He can't do shit to Gerard due to ridiculous regeneration and evolution
- He can't do shit to Yhwach due to pure hax
- He can't do shit to The Soul King for the same reason of Yhwach
- Really, he can't even kill Aizen due to regeneration either
- Ichibe reduces him to a fodder ant
- Yamamoto turns him to nothing, Toriko has no heat resistance anywhere near the core of the sun
- Gremmy imagines him dead
- Askin poisons him
- Pernida could possibly evolve to his level much like he did to Kenpachi's after absorbing his DNA
As far as I remember, Toriko has literally zero hax, he's just a fucking brick.
Lille Barro gets mindfucked by Ultimate Routine into a catatonic state
Gerard and Aizen are garbage with zero feats of resisting mindfuck or coming back from being reduced to atoms by Food Luck and really any of Torikos other attacks which cancel out regeneration by literally making every cell of the opponents body yield to him if their weak enough.
Yhwach and Soul King gets one-shotted several times until Almighty stops working. End game, Toriko characters are faster than FTL+ lasers that cross interplanetary distances instantly
When I said Toriko effortlessly stomps Bleach, it’s wasn’t a joke
Gerard and Aizen are garbage with zero feats of resisting mindfuck or coming back from being reduced to atoms by Food Luck and really any of Torikos other attacks which cancel out regeneration by literally making every cell of the opponents body yield to him if their weak enough.
Yhwach and Soul King gets one-shotted several times until Almighty stops working. End game, Toriko characters are faster than FTL+ lasers that cross interplanetary distances instantly
When I said Toriko effortlessly stomps Bleach, it’s wasn’t a joke
Sweetie, please. The thread is about Ichigo vs Toriko, these characters arent even relevant to the fight
X axis does nothing to Toriko. Toriko's Blue and White demons are so powerful that he can regenerate like fucking Deadpool. In fact, I'm pretty sure he can self-res based on his fight with Heracles.
Yhwach does nothing to Toriko but avoids getting killed
Gerard as I said would need to die hundreds of times to even become a challenge; I admit Gerard would be a problem, I literally already said that
Soul king dies instantly as he is immobile.
Ichibei's greatest feat is halving Yhwach's power and then reducing his power to that level after several moves. Toriko could have his power cut by magnitudes of 10000ths and still be powerful enough to oneshot. He destroys planet-busters casually at fully power.
Yamamoto cant turn him to nothing. Toriko insta-heals. Toriko has plenty of heat resistance as well. Toriko can even generate his own heat to such a degree that he melts an ice-mountain and he was doing capture level 50-100 stuff at this point in time. EOS he's fighting capture level 100,000 planet eating snakes. Yama's heat is likely a sting at worst.
Gremmy couldn't imagine a way to defeat Kenpachi. Kenpachi is city-block level even with Bankai. Toriko destroys planets. Gremmy kills himself trying.
Toriko has immunity to almost any poison in existence. Most Bishokukai do. If Grinpatch couldn't do shit to him several arcs before EOS Toriko came around, Askin has no chance. Furthermore Askin's power requires an initial fight to begin with - Toriko kills him instantly anyway so I'm not sure why you're even mentioning him.
Pernida can't evolve beyond the power of the soul king which as we've established is minuscule anyway compared to Toriko. Furthermore, Pernida cannot evolve if he is erased from existence from the blowback from Toriko's punch,let alone any kind of connection. Even if Pernida was allowed to evolve, it would take longer than the entire Bleach story for Pernida to even become a nuisance.
There is a lot more to powerscaling but you've forgotten one thing:
The thread is called
EOS Ichigo vs. EOS Toriko
Ichigo is not Askin, Yhwach, Pernida, etc. etc. etc. Ichigo only has physical feats and zero hax. Ichigo's level is far below Toriko. Let me repeat. Ichigo has only got physical feats and no hax to his name. None of what you've said even matters. Toriko destroys planet-busters with ease. Ichigo uses the final Getsuga Tensho (which is an even more impressive display of power than what EOS Ichigo did) and levels a medium-small town. They aren't even in the same league goddamn.
X axis does nothing to Toriko. Toriko's Blue and White demons are so powerful that he can regenerate like fucking Deadpool. In fact, I'm pretty sure he can self-res based on his fight with Heracles.
Yhwach does nothing to Toriko but avoids getting killed
Gerard as I said would need to die hundreds of times to even become a challenge; I admit Gerard would be a problem, I literally already said that
Soul king dies instantly as he is immobile.
Ichibei's greatest feat is halving Yhwach's power and then reducing his power to that level after several moves. Toriko could have his power cut by magnitudes of 10000ths and still be powerful enough to oneshot. He destroys planet-busters casually at fully power.
Yamamoto cant turn him to nothing. Toriko insta-heals. Toriko has plenty of heat resistance as well. Toriko can even generate his own heat to such a degree that he melts an ice-mountain and he was doing capture level 50-100 stuff at this point in time. EOS he's fighting capture level 100,000 planet eating snakes. Yama's heat is likely a sting at worst.
Gremmy couldn't imagine a way to defeat Kenpachi. Kenpachi is city-block level even with Bankai. Toriko destroys planets. Gremmy kills himself trying.
Toriko has immunity to almost any poison in existence. Most Bishokukai do. If Grinpatch couldn't do shit to him several arcs before EOS Toriko came around, Askin has no chance. Furthermore Askin's power requires an initial fight to begin with - Toriko kills him instantly anyway so I'm not sure why you're even mentioning him.
Pernida can't evolve beyond the power of the soul king which as we've established is minuscule anyway compared to Toriko. Furthermore, Pernida cannot evolve if he is erased from existence from the blowback from Toriko's punch,let alone any kind of connection. Even if Pernida was allowed to evolve, it would take longer than the entire Bleach story for Pernida to even become a nuisance.
There is a lot more to powerscaling but you've forgotten one thing:
The thread is called
EOS Ichigo vs. EOS Toriko
Ichigo is not Askin, Yhwach, Pernida, etc. etc. etc. Ichigo only has physical feats and zero hax. Ichigo's level is far below Toriko. Let me repeat. Ichigo has only got physical feats and no hax to his name. None of what you've said even matters. Toriko destroys planet-busters with ease. Ichigo uses the final Getsuga Tensho (which is an even more impressive display of power than what EOS Ichigo did) and levels a medium-small town. They aren't even in the same league goddamn.
I'd say it depends on how you scale Bleach.
If realms = universes, then Ichigo
If realms = planets, then Toriko.
I'm gonna wait until the anime shows how big the realms are. People for some reason think Ichigo is only a hill level/city level in AP without taking the time to actually look at him. If he's cutting Yhwach at full power then he's at least multi-planetary to multi-universal. Unless you wanna be braindead and say the realms are only country sized, despite the manga, novels, and narrative suggesting otherwise. I didn't get far in Toriko, I finished the anime time ago, but I don't remember much lol. From what I remember they're both bricks, so it depends on their stats.
He's not soloing Bleach due to the hax they have. I saw that somewhere, so before someone brings that up again. Hisagi hits Toriko with bankai, drains him and then Toriko gets a train ran on him.
Anyways, I'd say it depends on how u scale.
If realms = universes, then Ichigo
If realms = planets, then Toriko.
I'm gonna wait until the anime shows how big the realms are. People for some reason think Ichigo is only a hill level/city level in AP without taking the time to actually look at him. If he's cutting Yhwach at full power then he's at least multi-planetary to multi-universal. Unless you wanna be braindead and say the realms are only country sized, despite the manga, novels, and narrative suggesting otherwise. I didn't get far in Toriko, I finished the anime time ago, but I don't remember much lol. From what I remember they're both bricks, so it depends on their stats.
He's not soloing Bleach due to the hax they have. I saw that somewhere, so before someone brings that up again. Hisagi hits Toriko with bankai, drains him and then Toriko gets a train ran on him.
Anyways, I'd say it depends on how u scale.
Being able to travel between universes or planets is a completely inconsequential power in a 1v1 fight - it isn't even a display of power. I don't understand this conclusion.
Also, cutting Yhwach doesn't make you multi-planetary. That's not how this shit works. The greatest display of power Ichigo has isn't even EOS, and he levelled a town. Just because another character has 'hax' doesn't mean you need to be multi-planetary to cut them up - how many hoops did you have to jump through for that one to make sense?
The Toriko anime ends about 1/3rd of the way through the Manga. Toriko's feats EOS include fighting a snake the size of the solar-system that casually destroys planets and being completely unphased.
Toriko's also not just a "brick", he can cast illusions, generate heat that melts ice mountains and he can self-resurrect himself from the dead and instantly heal almost any injury (and this is all waaaaaayyyyy before EOS when he was only a fraction of his EOS strength).
Also, cutting Yhwach doesn't make you multi-planetary. That's not how this shit works. The greatest display of power Ichigo has isn't even EOS, and he levelled a town. Just because another character has 'hax' doesn't mean you need to be multi-planetary to cut them up - how many hoops did you have to jump through for that one to make sense?
The Toriko anime ends about 1/3rd of the way through the Manga. Toriko's feats EOS include fighting a snake the size of the solar-system that casually destroys planets and being completely unphased.
Toriko's also not just a "brick", he can cast illusions, generate heat that melts ice mountains and he can self-resurrect himself from the dead and instantly heal almost any injury (and this is all waaaaaayyyyy before EOS when he was only a fraction of his EOS strength).
What does travelling between universes or planets have anything to do with this? Who said anything about that? I'm talking about Yhwach destroying the 3 realms (which are either planets or universes) with his power, that's literally a display of power. Did you read EOS Ichigo's fight?
Cutting through Yhwach would make Ichigo multi-planetary, his durability scales with his AP due to reiryoku and reiatsu. Do you understand how AP works? Ichigo's DC might've been whatever you're saying, but that doesn't mean his AP is that level. We know Goku has more than planetary AP, but when he's throwing a kamehameha, he's not destroying the planet, because he controls the amount he puts into it. Same thing here.
You might need to work on that reading comprehension because that is not what I said in any way. I don't see how you got to that conclusion unless you saw some imaginary shit that I never said. Anyways, if a character has hax, then you need resistance or a counter to it, simple as that. Having planet level AP isn't going to solve that. Also, stop inserting shit I never said.
Ok, glad to know. I'm not sure on Toriko's feats since I don't remember them.
Cutting through Yhwach would make Ichigo multi-planetary, his durability scales with his AP due to reiryoku and reiatsu. Do you understand how AP works? Ichigo's DC might've been whatever you're saying, but that doesn't mean his AP is that level. We know Goku has more than planetary AP, but when he's throwing a kamehameha, he's not destroying the planet, because he controls the amount he puts into it. Same thing here.
You might need to work on that reading comprehension because that is not what I said in any way. I don't see how you got to that conclusion unless you saw some imaginary shit that I never said. Anyways, if a character has hax, then you need resistance or a counter to it, simple as that. Having planet level AP isn't going to solve that. Also, stop inserting shit I never said.
Ok, glad to know. I'm not sure on Toriko's feats since I don't remember them.
Which Yhwach didn't do.
The Soul king's existence glued the realms together and his death is what caused the decimation (at best) of the three realms. Had nothing to do with Yhwach's actual power as Yhwach didn't do anything to destroy the realms himself.
It would only make Ichigo multi-planetary if it requires a multi-planetary attack to cut Yhwach. It doesn't. He's damaged by city block to city level attacks when using Blut Vene. Where the fuck does this multi-planetary crap come from? The single greatest display of AP was FTG Ichigo vs Hogyoku Aizen. EOS Ichigo isn't even on that level as far as we know, and that version of Ichigo didn't even reach anything close to a fraction of a percentage of island-busting, let alone continental/planetary/multi planetary.
Like seriously wtf dude. You can have hax but if you have a normal human body (like Yhwach) in theory you don't need MULTIIPLANETARY power to harm them. For fuck sake.
It is what you said. You argued that because Ichigo off-screened Yhwach who has 'hax', and simply for the reason of hax, that means Ichigo can destroy his own planet.
The fact Ichigo won, without having anything other than AP on his side, just goes to show that yeah, Toriko would beat Yhwach too. Especially since a casual push on the guy who ate a fucking supernova sent the guy around their jupiter-sized planet. It just goes to show that Toriko isn't *Just* planetary level but FAR BEYOND that.
How about practicing your writing if that wasn't what you were arguing though?
So how does Ichigo kill or defeat someone who cant die?
The Soul king's existence glued the realms together and his death is what caused the decimation (at best) of the three realms. Had nothing to do with Yhwach's actual power as Yhwach didn't do anything to destroy the realms himself.
It would only make Ichigo multi-planetary if it requires a multi-planetary attack to cut Yhwach. It doesn't. He's damaged by city block to city level attacks when using Blut Vene. Where the fuck does this multi-planetary crap come from? The single greatest display of AP was FTG Ichigo vs Hogyoku Aizen. EOS Ichigo isn't even on that level as far as we know, and that version of Ichigo didn't even reach anything close to a fraction of a percentage of island-busting, let alone continental/planetary/multi planetary.
Like seriously wtf dude. You can have hax but if you have a normal human body (like Yhwach) in theory you don't need MULTIIPLANETARY power to harm them. For fuck sake.
It is what you said. You argued that because Ichigo off-screened Yhwach who has 'hax', and simply for the reason of hax, that means Ichigo can destroy his own planet.
The fact Ichigo won, without having anything other than AP on his side, just goes to show that yeah, Toriko would beat Yhwach too. Especially since a casual push on the guy who ate a fucking supernova sent the guy around their jupiter-sized planet. It just goes to show that Toriko isn't *Just* planetary level but FAR BEYOND that.
How about practicing your writing if that wasn't what you were arguing though?
So how does Ichigo kill or defeat someone who cant die?