Which cycle length would you prefer?

  • 24/24

    Votes: 9 81.8%
  • 48/24

    Votes: 2 18.2%
  • No Preference

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    11
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...The mafia, including you, already have their own counter for this - protective abilities.

If you're citing the amount of kills present as evidence that I could be mafia with more than 1 kill, I mean, go ahead and try and sell that I guess. Anyone who spends more than 2 seconds thinking about it should realize that's not likely.
 
Alright here are important D2 and onward Ultra quotes to and about Charles/Kagura:


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^ Does decide to go with my Kagura lynch earlier than most.



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^ Ultra turning on me somewhat with questions while he’s been also seemingly more Blue sided than Charles sided. Could just be townie due diligence.
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^ Turns to me about Charles again despite not liking Charles himself. Maybe just trying to solve me but he turns away from Charles to question me questioning Charles twice now
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^ moves off of Charles but onto Kagura who is also still Purple




^ almost a Charles defense
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^ next day, nitpicky but the “I think” is weird. Odd thing to forget/get foggy about imo.


^ Says Charles is the optimal lynch


^ But then goes with Ekko anyway

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I’ll do Fuji/Light too. Just trying to put these here for people to see and make their own judgements. Can ignore side commentary and make your own conclusions. One thing that stands out is I don’t see Ultra really interacting with Kagura at all here.
I gotta be frank Prof, I know how skeptical you are but this feels like you're setting the bar here really high to say I was "turning away from Charlie" there or w/e. To be frank, I was laying it on him pretty thick. I sniffed out that he was using tracker as a cover for a scum action straight away. That's not distancing. I nailed his coffin in.
 
As for why I ultimately decided Ekko over Charles, that pretty much goes for everyone who participated in the lynch that day. Both basically outted, but he was wayyyyyy more annoying. I figured he was the bigger fish as well
 

Light D Lamperouge

𝖂𝖍𝖆𝖙 𝕮𝖔𝖚𝖑𝖉 𝕳𝖆𝖛𝖊 𝕭𝖊𝖊𝖓
...The mafia, including you, already have their own counter for this - protective abilities.

If you're citing the amount of kills present as evidence that I could be mafia with more than 1 kill, I mean, go ahead and try and sell that I guess. Anyone who spends more than 2 seconds thinking about it should realize that's not likely.
There were two bulletproof mafia, and let's count Ekko who you cited earlier as dodging a bullet as well. And whatever Emi is.

Are you honestly telling me you're tryna propose that town has 4 killers on their side? One that's seemingly immortal, one that can commute, one that had no restrictions from my understanding, and you who can shoot every other night? Not even a back up vig for instance, that can shoot post the vig's demise, but a full on vig who can ostensibly shoot every second night? Yeah, it makes no sense for me.
 

Light D Lamperouge

𝖂𝖍𝖆𝖙 𝕮𝖔𝖚𝖑𝖉 𝕳𝖆𝖛𝖊 𝕭𝖊𝖊𝖓
I gotta be frank Prof, I know how skeptical you are but this feels like you're setting the bar here really high to say I was "turning away from Charlie" there or w/e. To be frank, I was laying it on him pretty thick. I sniffed out that he was using tracker as a cover for a scum action straight away. That's not distancing. I nailed his coffin in.
So why not shoot Charles there? Afaik, Flowa was not revealed as a vig by then, was she?
 
I gotta be frank Prof, I know how skeptical you are but this feels like you're setting the bar here really high to say I was "turning away from Charlie" there or w/e. To be frank, I was laying it on him pretty thick. I sniffed out that he was using tracker as a cover for a scum action straight away. That's not distancing. I nailed his coffin in.
Just doing due diligence. Some of it might be nit picky but I’m just looking for anything that *might* be there like a hawk lol.
 
There were two bulletproof mafia, and let's count Ekko who you cited earlier as dodging a bullet as well. And whatever Emi is.

Are you honestly telling me you're tryna propose that town has 4 killers on their side? One that's seemingly immortal, one that can commute, one that had no restrictions from my understanding, and you who can shoot every other night? Not even a back up vig for instance, that can shoot post the vig's demise, but a full on vig who can ostensibly shoot every second night? Yeah, it makes no sense for me.
So, I actually had a similar sentiment on D2, after seeing all those kills. However, it looks like Blue and Prof's we're one offs, and the amount of kills that day didn't accurately reflect the game state. You should know this.

By the way, you're assuming I'm scum here, so discounting profs and blues one offs, town has *one* vig in Flower. So it falls flat on its face based on its premise.

You're getting in the weeds over bullshit. There are way way more assumptions bundled into your theory that I'm a mafioso with an extra kill than just admitting I'm an odd killer.

Frankly you don't even have to say I'm town, you could argue I'm Indi. But your line of accusation is nonsensical.
 
Wait yeah I just checked and Ratchet's vc was up to date at 9 and with @Xlaw 's vote it hammered. Someone in there has VP.
Likely, no reason to keep info like that hidden especially when people were waiting for Nat to claim and or were unsure.
^ Fuji was going crazy on looking for the double voter early on. (Who turned out to be Kagura. Idk if that could be scum TMI or if him going after the DV that hard is something he’d avoid knowing it’s his teammate in this hypothetical)
Sans Ekko Xlaw is scum imo, Kagura's posts are just kinda there and she appears and disappears but she never leaves a mark or notable interraction in the thread. I recall Prof pressuring her and she just kinda ignored his posts and or joked around them.

Town leans: You, Yo and Pot are my highest town reads in the game.

Hildibrand is probably an indie, but not bad which Is why I questioned what your results were.
Yeah, I would say chances are high Xlaw is the DV and hammered down the votes. It ook 11 to lynch and there were 9 votes.




Red Soul voted Nat, Ekko is probably his scummate so thats two.

Im ruling out Ultra because he seemed interested In Nats claim and scum read her most of the day phase so his vote on her makes sense.
Removing Pero if he is Minfilia because Yos role confirms her.

Then removing those I town lean.

So that leaves Prof,Xlaw and Kagura

Kagura voted Nat to get a lynch going.

Prof did scum read Nat so Ill give him that.

And then Xlaw who was the last voter.

High chance of scum in those 3 anyways. If I had to guess Id say Xlaw and Kagu for me rn.
I absorbed her role dw.

And if we are leaving Ekko be at this moment we can go Xlaw or Kagura.

Vote Lynch Xlaw
Lets bring the Law to Xlaw :jackaugh:@Flowa
You can't write outlaw without Xlaw :yearight:

@Xlaw do you have additional vote power.
Xlaw first then Kagura second if we excluse Ekko.
I believe * takes puff from cigar* that someone to be Xlaw, or Kagu. Leaning the former.
^ He narrows it down to Xlaw then Kagura in that order but always has a strong preference to Xlaw.
Always has been, kagu do you have vote power?
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Can you iso Xlaw and tell me your thoughts.
^ so he saw that but made zero comments about her horrific reaction to me telling her I shot her lol.
I think Blue is an indie tbh. Because the way he’s playing rn is far removed from his coasting town self. Its just a vibe tbh.
^ a fair thought at the time but indirectly supports Charlie *somewhat*
How can you commute and shoot ?
^ questioning Blue’s claim (can still be townie due diligence but helps Charles if you cast doubt here)
Right now Im going by mechanics and the way he behaved EOD over perceived meta. Lets see what he says in regards to who the extra voter might be if in his PoV it aint him. The list is there.
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Im pointing to Kagu here if we go by Xlaws narrative that in his mind the voter is likely the first. To me its either or, still banking on Xlaw though.
^ Keeping Kagura second always
Im not putting any stock into what that man is saying right now.

But if he is then idk . Xlaw couldve still know about it and voted last to hammer, then use the excuse of “ well scum wouldnt hammer last thats too risky!”
^ Him not believing Ekko *could* be tmi.
Thats kinda op to be able to vig in peace.
^ more possible doubt on Blue
@Xlaw what are your reads rn.
^ asking Xlaw his reads but not Kagura

This whole time he completely ignored commenting on Charles and grilling Charles. When he did have questions about that thing it was always toward Blue only.
By same attitude did he feel like it was NAI @Dr_Professor83 ? I don't recall him talking about it last phase.
^ Responds to me pointing out an issue I have with Charles
Thats true but then was Charlie redirected?
@Charlie what did it specifically say when you got your results?
^ offering Charles a life line
The Xlaw thing, he claimed Vanilla town in your game too when he was Lumine. I feel like claiming vanilla is a good way to get by and explain not having actions to report for town. Sure as you said he might get caught by a watcher or tracker but we dunno what kinda abilities scum can have. I mean we have Ekko out here tanking a lynch lp in a majority setup.

The Cal thing, id think he would be more informed if scum right. To me his cluelessness and overall attitude in the game ( like him claiming you were town a bit earlier) strikes me as that of someone who doesnt have the help of teammates keeping him updated.
^ feel like Fuji going for Xlaw at all times over Kagura and Charles is suspicious
Kagu, Xlaw, Idk about Charlie why would he reveal he redirect Blue when Blue made it clear he killed SK.

Drago slight scum lean.

Town besides the obv ones I wanna say Cal.

Still tinfoiling you but Ill leave it for later lol.
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Vote Lynch Charlie
^ finally vote Charles when he’s tagged to
So why are we voting Charlie? Do you think they might be covering for each other or something?
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Wdym from one town to another.
Ill be honest, I didnt understand what you mean but it could just be my scrambled brain here. Are you claiming nexus protect unless its on Aymer? Did I get it right? But you said it redirects from one town to another, does it only redirect townies then and not work on scum?
I see, but you said it redirects from one townie to another. Why didnt you just say one player to another? It seems like your abilities works on everyone right?
^ All of a sudden starts grilling Charles when he’s already nailed down lol
Whats an Iron Sacrifice ability to begin with lol.
How is that a sacrifice from her.
^ response to Kagura’s claim
There were 9 votes before law voted, which with one with VP ( had to be 2 imo since more would've hammered before Xlaws vote) meant it was 10, with law it was 11. The majority was 11 and it was reached.

As for Usopp anything he says doesnt matter to me, he's outed scum and if he was a DV then the votes wouldve hammered before Xlaw and Ultra who voted after.
^ back to Xlaw > Kagura
 
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