Which cycle length would you prefer?

  • 24/24

    Votes: 9 81.8%
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    Votes: 2 18.2%
  • No Preference

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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Light D Lamperouge

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She could have also roleblocked Flower first and then survived both our kills after with her passive commute. Seems plausible given Flower held a big neon sign saying "Hey, I'm shooting people".

Or she could have commuted first and survived some other way. All I know is that I shot her.
No this doesn't stack up. No one knew if Flowa had more shoots. You yourself were surprised by it
You still have shots to spare?
...Just how many shots do you have?
What I'm driving at here is that first you claimed one shot, then you claimed two shot, then you pulled two more shots out tonight.

And apparently have a nuke in the back

Consider me envious.

So yeah I don't see Emi blocking Flowa there. Especially since Kagura escaped the lynch that day and if anyone is gonna get shoot it should be Kagura.
 
No this doesn't stack up. No one knew if Flowa had more shoots. You yourself were surprised by it





So yeah I don't see Emi blocking Flowa there. Especially since Kagura escaped the lynch that day and if anyone is gonna get shoot it should be Kagura.
My surprise doesn't really mean much, I'm not keeping track of these things as closely as scum would. My surprise actually came from the fact that her capacity to shoot outpaced mine and that's when I started thinking she might be SK.

You also conveniently haven't addressed my point about her team member - what do you make of that? Who remaining do you expect that to be?
 

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Well I'll be off to play some VN

Too much testosterone here :tchpepe:
 

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Disregarding Emi's accusations, which *may* be credible, may not, the other things don't line up.


Your claim is bullshit. Like I've discussed previously, I do not see such a high number of killing roles assigned to town.

You were conveniently gone two days in a row when Kagura needed to be lynched.

The people that were willing to lynch you, namely Cal and T Pein, died shortly thereafter.

Your character claim is apparently a character that belongs/ed to the Empire, which is perfect for a restricted culting.

Like I mentioned above as well, you've lied about shooting Emi.
 
Disregarding Emi's accusations, which *may* be credible, may not, the other things don't line up.


Your claim is bullshit. Like I've discussed previously, I do not see such a high number of killing roles assigned to town.

You were conveniently gone two days in a row when Kagura needed to be lynched.

The people that were willing to lynch you, namely Cal and T Pein, died shortly thereafter.

Your character claim is apparently a character that belongs/ed to the Empire, which is perfect for a restricted culting.

Like I mentioned above as well, you've lied about shooting Emi.
You've rehearsed quite well for today, haven't you.
 

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My surprise doesn't really mean much, I'm not keeping track of these things as closely as scum would. My surprise actually came from the fact that her capacity to shoot outpaced mine and that's when I started thinking she might be SK.

You also conveniently haven't addressed my point about her team member - what do you make of that? Who remaining do you expect that to be?
Yeah I think Emi was surely keeping track as well. That's why she confused who claimed commuter and thought it was Kagura lmao.
Plus even if she were keeping track, which I already showed above is not likely, going by your posts, she'd have kept the same track. And wouldn't have a reason to block Flowa when the intended shoot would be on Kagura, who as I said, escaped the lynch.


I didn't see that in the post I quoted. It has to be Xlaw then.
 
Disregarding Emi's accusations, which *may* be credible, may not, the other things don't line up.


Your claim is bullshit. Like I've discussed previously, I do not see such a high number of killing roles assigned to town.

You were conveniently gone two days in a row when Kagura needed to be lynched.

The people that were willing to lynch you, namely Cal and T Pein, died shortly thereafter.

Your character claim is apparently a character that belongs/ed to the Empire, which is perfect for a restricted culting.

Like I mentioned above as well, you've lied about shooting Emi.
My claim is fine, I actually forced you to concede that my kills exist. You then amended your accusation to me being scum with 1.5 kills, now I'm lying about killing Emi. You're not solving, you're throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks.

I was only gone at the end of Day 4. On Day 5, I checked in to see if we were ready to hammer, was told no, then I left. Then the lynch was hammered.

People die in a mafia game. Some of those people will suspect me. I don't think Pot or Nat suspected me that strongly, and they got executed, so.

It's also perfect for a miller, which I am.

Addressed.
 
Now it's my turn.

So far, my case on Light is as follows:

- Claim that warrants immediate suspicion due to how strong, diverse, and nuanced it is. Light has been attempting to downplay it, but squeezing players who claim protections past a certain threshold has had a high success rate, and there is no reason he shouldn't be afforded the same level of scrutiny.
- Between the players currently alive, he seems the most likely to have been targeted for a conversion on D2, with Charles even admitting to have visited Fuji. Much like he used tracker as a cover for his redirection ability, it follows that he would use another ability as an alibi for his Fuji visit, to cover his bases. Also, the ability described on Fuji struck a close enough resemblance to Fuji's claim to avoid potential action contradictions.
- Seemed to have a strong and active interest in not lynching Emi yesterday.
- Isn't willing to claim his latest set of actions.
- Had difficulty keeping his claim straight in comparison to what Fuji had already expressed about the claim.
 

Light D Lamperouge

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My claim is fine, I actually forced you to concede that my kills exist. You then amended your accusation to me being scum with 1.5 kills, now I'm lying about killing Emi. You're not solving, you're throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks.
You didn't force me to concede anything. I said your kills can exist multiple times, but do not make you town. Especially due to the presence of other killing roles assigned to town, and to help town. I've demonstrated that you in fact have not shot Emi, or else she'd have been dead.

I was only gone at the end of Day 4. On Day 5, I checked in to see if we were ready to hammer, was told no, then I left. Then the lynch was hammered.
OK, good you're admitting that you were in fact gone during the first day when Kagura narrowly escaped a lynch by a vote. On D5 you were again gone, and Kagura was on her way to escaping the lynch again, had she not hammered herself, which was most likely an impulsive decision just to screw over Prof. You left your vote on Emi.


People die in a mafia game. Some of those people will suspect me. I don't think Pot or Nat suspected me that strongly, and they got executed, so.
Of course people die in a mafia game lol. The fact is that both Cal and T Pein were up to lynch you the day before they got killed. T Pein even bumped you up in his order of who gets lynched. And judging by how close the lynch was yesterday and that you were a vote away from being lynched at a point I believe, of course you'd look to remove them.


It's also perfect for a miller, which I am.
And for a restricted recruit. It's probably how they found you.
 
The strength of the role has been chronically downplayed by Light, who appealed to the wider set up to sell it as making sense, but from my standpoint it frankly doesn't, and any experienced player who can gauge the level of role power in this game should clearly see that.

Prof is an obvious exception as he has a bunch of special conditions he needs to fulfill. When you look at the strongest town PR's that have flipped, here's what they consist of:

Nat - Town Loved Doctor Full Jack of Investigative Trades
Estinien Wyrmblood (Flowa), a Town Vigilante One-Shot Chainlink, was killed.
Sadu Heavensflame (T-Peinโ„ข), a Town Two-Shot Rolecrusher, was killed.


These are quite good in their own right but still all relatively modest, they don't seem terribly out of place for a standard game. And these are the creme of the crop.

Light's role, according to him/Fuji, allows him to do the following:

- Passively survive any kill
- Invent literally any ability he wants, with host approval
- Gift the ability to not only another player, but himself
- Possesses a locked ability to also let him roleblock

Seriously, what the fuck *is* this
 
Yeah I think Emi was surely keeping track as well. That's why she confused who claimed commuter and thought it was Kagura lmao.
Plus even if she were keeping track, which I already showed above is not likely, going by your posts, she'd have kept the same track. And wouldn't have a reason to block Flowa when the intended shoot would be on Kagura, who as I said, escaped the lynch.


I didn't see that in the post I quoted. It has to be Xlaw then.
@Xlaw was scanned town by prof
 

Light D Lamperouge

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Claim that warrants immediate suspicion due to how strong, diverse, and nuanced it is. Light has been attempting to downplay it, but squeezing players who claim protections past a certain threshold has had a high success rate, and there is no reason he shouldn't be afforded the same level of scrutiny.
We've been over this. My role is not that strong. A single roleblock cancels it out. With the amount of kills present, it fits perfectly that I'd have some form of resistance to it. And it's not even a bulletproof, as it gets canceled with a roleblock, and should I wish to switch, I ought to abstain, which makes me susceptible to kills.


Between the players currently alive, he seems the most likely to have been targeted for a conversion on D2,
No that's actually you, like I've said above.


with Charles even admitting to have visited Fuji. Much like he used tracker as a cover for his redirection ability, it follows that he would use another ability as an alibi for his Fuji visit, to cover his bases.
Like I've previously stated, Charlie is not outing his teammate or a successful conversion target knowing damn well what he is going to flip and already having some heat on him with his ridiculous claim on Blue.


Also, the ability described on Fuji struck a close enough resemblance to Fuji's claim to avoid potential action contradictions.
What ability described? Charlie? That said he can randomly redirect a kill/block/etc from whoever he is guarding?
I protect A. A is targeted by B with negative action, could be kill, could be roleblock, could be voteblock... Then i take this action and send it at one of ABCDEFGHIJK... In case my A isn Aymer, it's not random and it goes back to B.
How is it close to resembling what my ability does?


Seemed to have a strong and active interest in not lynching Emi yesterday.
I hammered Emi. And have had her on my scum list for quite long.



Are you simultaneously accusing me of being both mafia here somehow?


- Isn't willing to claim his latest set of actions.
I am not going to claim my actions to you lol. Like I've said, most people know what I have done.


- Had difficulty keeping his claim straight in comparison to what Fuji had already expressed about the claim.
No I didn't. You've misrepresented what I have said about it.
 

Light D Lamperouge

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- Passively survive any kill
That's not true, and I've already told you x times about it. You're again misrepresenting what I say.


- Invent literally any ability he wants, with host approval
That's also not true. It's limited to basic abilities.


- Gift the ability to not only another player, but himself
What's wrong with being able to gift someone?


- Possesses a locked ability to also let him roleblock
This is also incorrect.
 
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