Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1056 Spoilers Discussion

[Rekien]

Do people not consider law and fuji a swordsman?

Theres nothing to consider, they are swordmen, period.

 

[IIskandar1997]

Do we really though? I’d honestly say Naruto vs Sasuke is one of the few well done rivalries I’ve seen

Most other manga don’t fully flesh out both characters or give them the same treatment

Asta and Yuno are actually a pretty good example

Sasuke vs Naruto was hardly a rivalry in the typical sense, they were borderline nemesis and werent even competing for the same thing. I agree with Asta and Yuno though, and it manages to even be healthy

 

[sanjikun]

So jinbe is just an idiot and let himself get filled with holes by Who’s Who?
It literally wasn’t in one shot Either. And he used his ultimate attack a literal Fishman karate ultimate technique. Thats Jinbes current limit high diffing who’s who.

Give him an arc and he’ll be commander level

I know you lack a brain, but stop the bullshit. He beat WW with the same category of move he used to one shot Moriah.

Jinbe's ultimate so far is Vagabond Drill, not any of those moves.

 

[Rootbeer]

Remember that Aramaki said that it was a shame for a admiral to lose to commanders a couple of chapters ago. Jack managed to fight 2 admirals (sengoku and Fujitora... ok 1 admiral and 1/4) and sink 2 ships. The dukes are commander level in sulong.
He is strong.

Thing is we don't know the details, for all we now Jack sank the 2 ships without Admirals on it and Fujitora showed up and blasted him off forcing the retreat.. Neko's fight was the counterpart to lnu's..

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

the rivalry between Kid, Law and Luffy is probably one of the worst in Manga history Lmao.

That's because Blackbeard is his real rival.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

WSC = World's Strongest Creature
WSC = World's Strongest Clown


Crydo is a fraud WSC, Buggy is the actual WSC.

Buggy Ball > Bolo Breath.

Could Kaido take a sword strike from Mihawk and take no damage? Pfff, even the Scabbards could wound Kaido.

Buggy's offensive firepower and defensive feats far outweigh a former Yonkou like Kaido.

Buggy would never allow himself to be wounded by low-tiers like the Scabbards, as seen by his ability to dodge Zoro in the East Blue, as well as fight Luffy while taking no serious damage, and then dodge Admiral attacks in Marineford.

Luffy became a Yonkou thanks to Buggy's wise guidance, and great pirates like Shanks and Whitebeard were constantly asking Buggy for aid during Marineford. Now, two former Warlords have joined forces with him, showing Buggy's ability to lead through charisma, not force.

Hopefully Akainu and Marine HQ take this threat seriously, and issue a proper bounty of at least 4 billion berry on this menacing, mad, master-planning jester.

 

[ranady]

Queen next time he shows up:

Komurasaki will fall for him

 

[TheSufferingGob]

I'm starting to think that Mihawk really is on par with great pirates like Shanks, Big Mom, Kaidou, Roger, Shiki and even Kaidou and Whitebeard.


What is not plausible is trying to put him on the same level as a mere admiral when canonically Fujitora is inferior to Mihawk, and Mihawk is inferior to Kaidou.

Kaidou > Mihawk > Fujitora.

That's how strong Kaidou is.

Idk man it seems like Oda left him as the last World Strongest for a reason he has to be Kaido's equal or maybe above.

 

[LubeDaddy]

So if Kaido isn't dead, what would stop him from just rolling into Wano again and taking everybody out?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Not really. Why are yonkos and admirals one shotting yc but mihawks being stopped by crocodile, Vista,... etc?

Lmao he had to beg yc4 Vista to leave him alone

Tried to take a shot at whitebeard and couldn't even get through wb commander😂😂😂 jozu a savage

Has mihawk gotten a feat that sanji and zoro cant already achieve with ease?

Dunno. Why was Akainu stopped by Marco, harmed by Vista,stopped by Jinbe, two shotted by Sickbeard, etc? Or why was Queen hurt by Marco and Chopper? See, a good amount of people have feats of being "shortly matched" by commanders and others. But you'd defend them by saying " oh they weren't completely trying they weren't that serious they got surprised " etc. But can't beat the same for Mihawk just because you dislike him. What a dick rider

 

[BangOO🍅]

GIGA

@centurion

GOAT

 

[DemarIkh]

Ok? That wasn't even my point, as you are only pointing out the application of CoA, and not CoO, which is what Fuji excels at.

The title is about being the strongest swordsman, you can have a DF and be a swordsman, or elite haki. Kaku has a DF and hes still a Swordsman. If a swordsman defeats mihawk while using CoO they still get the title since they're a swordsman lol.

 

[LubeDaddy]

The title is about being the strongest swordsman, you can have a DF and be a swordsman, or elite haki. Kaku has a DF and hes still a Swordsman. If a swordsman defeats mihawk while using CoO they still get the title since they're a swordsman lol.

So Mihawk > Shanks is what you are saying?

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Making Carrot the King of the minks, are they trying to copy Marvel with their King Valkyrie shit? There's no logic behind this, it's literally just to appeal to the dumb mfs that botted for her in the worldwide popularity poll.

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

That wasn't point, I was talking about general power scaling. In terms of swordsmanship, I wouldn't doubt Mihawk is better, but in a 1v1 scenario? I don't know, which is why I brought up Fuji's other abilities.

Are you ok brother?

How so in a 1v1 scenario? Is the 1v1 scenario what we've been debating from the start, or do you think a swordsman without DF can't beat another swordsman who has a DF? Zoro beat Kaku right?!

When a person is classified as a swordsman no matter what kind of powers he has besides swordsmanship he is still a swordsman and Mihawk is still the strongest swordsman, do you understand?!

I completely understand your misguided logic that if we boil it all down to a fencing match:

Mihawk > Fujitora.

But if we switch to a confrontation where Fujitora can fully utilize his powers:

Fujitora with swordsmanship + Df powers > Mihawk, which doesn't make any sense, it's like saying that ZORO can't beat Kaku with pure swordplay, theoretically Mihawk surpasses Fujitora not only in swordplay but in general.



Theoretically speaking Fujitora he doesn't stop being a swordsman if he uses his gravity he still remains one and theoretically Mihawk must overcome him, in the same way that Zoro beat Kaku who has a Zoan and uses it in conjunction with his swordsmanship, this question of "confrontation limited to fencing" never existed to be honest.

 

[Malakhith]

https://imgbb.com/db6F6HP

getting closer to the day after this chapter

Luffy died, man

 

[ThatMojaveCourier06]

The title is about being the strongest swordsman, you can have a DF and be a swordsman, or elite haki. Kaku has a DF and hes still a Swordsman. If a swordsman defeats mihawk while using CoO they still get the title since they're a swordsman lol.

Ok? What even is your point? I was talking about general power scaling, not the criteria required for the greatest swordsman.

 

[Ashlee]

I know you lack a brain, but stop the bullshit. He beat WW with the same category of move he used to one shot Moriah.

Jinbe's ultimate so far is Vagabond Drill, not any of those moves.

Jinbe used the upgraded "secret technique" version of that attack against WW. His other "secret technique" is vagabond drill, that implies they are on a similar level if anything.

 

[Malakhith]

Theres nothing to consider, they are swordmen, period.

Do you consider WB a swordsman? Remember that his weapon is a supreme sword.

 

[ThatMojaveCourier06]

Are you ok brother?

How so in a 1v1 scenario? Is the 1v1 scenario what we've been debating from the start, or do you think a swordsman without DF can't beat another swordsman who has a DF? Zoro beat Kaku right?!

When a person is classified as a swordsman no matter what kind of powers he has besides swordsmanship he is still a swordsman and Mihawk is still the strongest swordsman, do you understand?!

I completely understand your misguided logic that if we boil it all down to a fencing match:

Mihawk > Fujitora.

But if we switch to a confrontation where Fujitora can fully utilize his powers:

Fujitora with swordsmanship + Df powers > Mihawk, which doesn't make any sense, it's like saying that ZORO can't beat Kaku with pure swordplay, theoretically Mihawk surpasses Fujitora not only in swordplay but in general.

How exactly does Mihawk counter Fuji's gravity?