General & Others Bounty Discussion and Speculation

[Rootbeer]

In your opinion. Even if you don’t feel he deserves it which you are free to the narrative absolutely points to both zoro and sanji having over 1 billion beri. We ain’t just go through a whole arc of oda throwing these narratives of being the wings of the pirate king in our face for that to amount to nothing. Also oda has never really assigned bounties based on strength and feats alone as if that were the case mihawk would have the same bounty as shanks or similar or doflamingo would have prolly a billion as well but we all know that’s not possible as they were part of the shichibukai and their bounties got frozen as a result. Narrative is everything and that’s also the reason why sanji got an upgrade in wci despite beating no one of notoriety there.

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Feat wise is irrelevant here as bounties are not based on feats cuz if that were the case I believe luffy should have a wayyyyy higher bounty than law and kidd but that didn’t happen. Because of the same thing i just said “narrative”. He’s always going to prioritize the narrative of the plot over feats and strength cuz at the end of the day that’s the grading scale he uses. This is not to say feats are not important as they help to scale characters and I believe power scaling is necessary at times but in the case of bounties feats really are useless or rather partially useless as they don’t acquit for a lot.

lf that were the case both Wings would have been by Luffy on the rooftop facing kaido with Luffy.. Sanji would also have been a Supernova being the only crew with 3 Supernova.. Or Sanji would have got a Bounty after Alabasta for defeating Mr.2 who had a Bounty of 32 Million.. Zoro always outshined Sanji in portrayal the moment he was introduced being the infamous Pirate Hunter..

lf Jabra and kaku were really close Sanji would have got a Bounty above 100 Million like just under Urouge or something 107 Million to match Zoro’s 120 Million..

 

[Black Lord Sanji]

lf that were the case both Wings would have been by Luffy on the rooftop facing kaido with Luffy.. Sanji would also have been a Supernova being the only crew with 3 Supernova.. Or Sanji would have got a Bounty after Alabasta for defeating Mr.2 who had a Bounty of 32 Million.. Zoro always outshined Sanji in portrayal the moment he was introduced being the infamous Pirate Hunter..

lf Jabra and kaku were really close Sanji would have got a Bounty above 100 Million like just under Urouge or something 107 Million to match Zoro’s 120 Million..

The argument here is not that sanji is above zoro but the comment made by oda has to amount to something and yes the example you brought up is important because the fighters on the roof were supernovas and sanji is NOT one so he wasn’t up there. Narrative also plays a big part in that lol. Zoro will always outshine sanji again that’s not the argument here what I’m saying is the use of things like feats when talking about bounties is irrelevant as the plot decides what the bounties are going to be not the other way around. And the Ennies lobby example doesn’t really land as that was sanjis first bounty whereas zoro had a bounty before that so it wouldn’t make sense for all of a sudden sanji to have the same or similar bounty to zoro who is getting an increase. You don’t have to look far there’s a lotta examples in the story where bounties are contextualized and nuanced as they don’t always tell the full story.

 

[gz89]

How does he not deserve it for beating someone worth over 1.3 billion?

By your logic BB after killing WB and taking over his territories and becoming a Yonko should have more than 5B which is not the case.

Truth is if Sanji gets more than 1B it would be only to not stay much behind Zoro and thats all. He did absolutely nothing in the whole arc (both Wano + Onigashima) besides Queen.

 

[Black Lord Sanji]

By your logic BB after killing WB and taking over his territories and becoming a Yonko should have more than 5B which is not the case.

Truth is if Sanji gets more than 1B it would be only to not stay much behind Zoro and thats all. He did absolutely nothing in the whole arc (both Wano + Onigashima) besides Queen.

If fighting and holding off page one, holding off king from momonosuke, protecting luffy along w jinbei fighting off multiple headliners, saving chopper from queen, fighting both king and queen albeit for a short period and then holding off queen till defeating him in the end amounts to nothing then yea you’re right he did nothing lol

 

[Sir Yasheen]

By your logic BB after killing WB and taking over his territories and becoming a Yonko should have more than 5B which is not the case.

Truth is if Sanji gets more than 1B it would be only to not stay much behind Zoro and thats all. He did absolutely nothing in the whole arc (both Wano + Onigashima) besides Queen.

I mean the difference was Blackbeard didn’t defeat whitebeard. A literal army of people including 3 admirals and Blackbeard did.

Sanji single handedly beat queen. Comparing the two doesn’t make sense.

 

[gz89]

If fighting and holding off page one, holding off king from momonosuke, saving chopper from queen, fighting both king and queen albeit for a short period and then holding off queen till defeating him in the end amounts to nothing then yea you’re right he did nothing lol

Page one is the worst f6 nothing special here, he didnt hold king he just saved momo and king throw him in the wall while sanji screamed that it will pierce him. From someone that is supposed to be the wings of PK its funny his fights are against trash most of the time.

 

[Rootbeer]

The argument here is not that sanji is above zoro but the comment made by oda has to amount to something and yes the example you brought up is important because the fighters on the roof were supernovas and sanji is NOT one so he wasn’t up there. Narrative also plays a big part in that lol. Zoro will always outshine sanji again that’s not the argument here what I’m saying is the use of things like feats when talking about bounties is irrelevant as the plot decides what the bounties are going to be not the other way around. And the Ennies lobby example doesn’t really land as that was sanjis first bounty whereas zoro had a bounty before that so it wouldn’t make sense for all of a sudden sanji to have the same or similar bounty to zoro who is getting an increase. You don’t have to look far there’s a lotta examples in the story where bounties are contextualized and nuanced as they don’t always tell the full story.

But he’s one of the wings so he should have been on the rooftop.. Thing is the Wings don’t correlate to the Bounties and was only mentioned by Robin..


First bounty or not if Jabra and kaku were of similar threat level it would have reflected in the bounties too..

 

[Black Lord Sanji]

Page one is the worst f6 nothing special here, he didnt hold king he just saved momo and king throw him in the wall while sanji screamed that it will pierce him. From someone that is supposed to be the wings of PK its funny his fights are against trash most of the time.

Lol In your opinion. At the end of the day whether you think he’s ass or not he DID do things in the arc. You just don’t think it’s good enough or thought his fights were trash. Gotta take that up w oda my man I’m just stating what happened lol

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But he’s one of the wings so he should have been on the rooftop.. Thing is the Wings don’t correlate to the Bounties and was only mentioned by Robin..


First bounty or not if Jabra and kaku were of similar threat level it would have reflected in the bounties too..

It was mentioned by Robin and consequently had a whole chapter dedicated to the concept w Marco calling both of them(zoro and sanji) the stars of the show lol so yes it means something you just don’t agree w it which is fine and I understand but again these things have been stated in the story I’m just saying that lol. The wings are most definitely going to correlate to bounties as well and zoro should be ahead but sanji is not going to be far behind. Pretty simple really

 

[gz89]

Lol In your opinion. At the end of the day whether you think he’s ass or not he DID do things in the arc. You just don’t think it’s good enough or thought his fights were trash. Gotta take that up w oda my man I’m just stating what happened lol

Thats exaclty what im saying. i never stated he DIDNT do things in the arc i said the things he did its no reason to have a bounty more than 1B. If oda really wanted to portray him even at least important he could give him a little skirmish against BM before she arrived at rooftop or something like that. Hell even Franky picked a fight against BM and Oda didnt care to make Sanji have a signle panel kicking her or something like that.

 

[Rootbeer]

Lol In your opinion. At the end of the day whether you think he’s ass or not he DID do things in the arc. You just don’t think it’s good enough or thought his fights were trash. Gotta take that up w oda my man I’m just stating what happened lol

Sanji did a lot of stuff this arc but perhaps not that much to be noticed on the world stage.. Defeating Queen yes..

 

[BillSlipton]

Ready for the forum to go apeshit when its revealed that Zoro and Sanji having the same bounty.

Gonna be a 2200 2180 situation. But sanji was already in the lead before wano

 

[Black Lord Sanji]

Thats exaclty what im saying. i never stated he DIDNT do things in the arc i said the things he did its no reason to have a bounty more than 1B. If oda really wanted to portray him even at least important he could give him a little skirmish against BM before she arrived at rooftop or something like that.

He can’t fight bm though he doesn’t fight women so I don’t know how that would work out. Yea it could’ve been better but I’m just saying oda did what he did and he’s gonna give him a bounty over 1 billion based on optics and him beating queen. While I do agree oda could’ve done more this was ultimately the path he chose and I’ve chosen to accept it even though I would’ve wanted more obviously lol

 

[Rootbeer]

Gonna be a 2200 2180 situation. But sanji was already in the lead before wano

That’s great if it happens but that’s really day dreaming..

 

[Black Lord Sanji]

Sanji did a lot of stuff this arc but perhaps not that much to be noticed on the world stage.. Defeating Queen yes..

Queen is worth over 1.3 billion lol at some point that has to amount to something. Even if the execution of the fight was not the best it has to amount to something lol you don’t get to beat a pirate of that notoriety and not get noticed.

 

[BillSlipton]

That’s great if it happens but that’s really day dreaming..

How so? You haven't asked me why I think this way. I only offered the opinion.

Is it really socially acceptable to tell someone they're delusional? Without asking their reasoning?

🤡 behavior. Couldn't be me.

 

[Rootbeer]

How so? You haven't asked me why I think this way. I only offered the opinion.

Is it really socially acceptable to tell someone they're delusional? Without asking their reasoning?

🤡 behavior. Couldn't be me.

l feel day dreaming is way kinder than delusional, it's like i'm saying wishful thinking..

And Douriki aren't Bounties..

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Queen is worth over 1.3 billion lol at some point that has to amount to something. Even if the execution of the fight was not the best it has to amount to something lol you don’t get to beat a pirate of that notoriety and not get noticed.

That's why i acknowledge the defeat of Queen as something that will be noticed by the world..

 

[BillSlipton]

l feel day dreaming is way kinder than delusional, it's like i'm saying wishful thinking..

And Douriki aren't Bounties..

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That's why i acknowledge the defeat of Queen as something that will be noticed by the world..

Hmmm more judgement without asking me my fucking opinion. Carry on with your day. I'm not interested In a conversation with you.

 

[Shasha23]

In your opinion. Even if you don’t feel he deserves it which you are free to the narrative absolutely points to both zoro and sanji having over 1 billion beri. We ain’t just go through a whole arc of oda throwing these narratives of being the wings of the pirate king in our face for that to amount to nothing. Also oda has never really assigned bounties based on strength and feats alone as if that were the case mihawk would have the same bounty as shanks or similar or doflamingo would have prolly a billion as well but we all know that’s not possible as they were part of the shichibukai and their bounties got frozen as a result. Narrative is everything and that’s also the reason why sanji got an upgrade in wci despite beating no one of notoriety there

What is your point exactly

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Queen is worth over 1.3 billion lol at some point that has to amount to something. Even if the execution of the fight was not the best it has to amount to something lol you don’t get to beat a pirate of that notoriety and not get noticed.

i havent seen anyone say he wont get noticed, you are just being angry for no reason, the point is all Sanji did was beat a commander and nothing else that would justify his bounty being that high

 

[faker]

Sanji did nothing in Wano to suddenly have 1B+ bounty. If we assume that CP0 saw/know all the fights that happened all he did was to defeat Queen an thats all and if Oda decides to give him more than 800-900M he would do it only for Sanji to dont be very much behind Zoro. Feat wise he doesnt deserve it.

What did Zoro do? In fact, he just defeated the king and left Kaido a scar, which had no impact on the situation

 

[gz89]

What did Zoro do? In fact, he just defeated the king and left Kaido a scar, which had no impact on the situation

Feat wise he fought hawkins, killer, apoo, kaido, king. If we talk bounty wise only It was not just the scar, he saved the others from the Hakai and he protected luffy while he was unconcious. You cant tell he " just sccared kaido", its not like anyone else in the whole alliance could do it and if it was the other way around and instead of zoro there was sanji at the rooftop, the sanjifans would go frenzy.