Powers & Abilities Shanks vs Mihawk took interesting turn

[Boiroy]

So, we got to see in the movie that Shanks in fact could use ACOC back in the days when he used to clash with Mihawk n the volume book says he's an observation haki killer.

And Mihawk's epithet is "Clairvoyant"
clairvoyant-
a person who claims to have a supernatural ability to perceive events in the future or beyond normal sensory contact.

Which means Mihawk was and is the only one in the existence in the current verse who can use future sight in front of Shanks :O

Their duels truly used to be extraordinary

 

[Den_Den_Mushi]

Even more interestingly, if Shanks can actually cancel Mihawk’s FS, it meant that Mihawk could actually duel Shanks as his equal or superior… while being unable to use his signature ability. That’s huge. Like WB being able to stalemate Roger without his DF.

 

[Boiroy]

Even more interestingly, if Shanks can actually cancel Mihawk’s FS, it meant that Mihawk could actually duel Shanks as his equal or superior… while being unable to use his signature ability. That’s huge. Like WB being able to stalemate Roger without his DF.

Omg
That's possible as well, more hype for Mihawk

Damnnnnn

 

[Xione]

Not really... that's not what it means lol.

@MarineHQ62 did a good job explaining the "CoO killer". That shit won't work against Top Tiers.

But it's a nice little contrast Oda did between the two rivals.

Like WB being able to stalemate Roger without his DF.

That never happened.

 

[ZenZu]

Not really... that's not what it means lol.

@MarineHQ62 did a good job explaining the "CoO killer". That shit won't work against Top Tiers.

But it's a nice little contrast Oda did between the two rivals.


That never happened.

If Shanks made GB sweat a bucket's worth from miles away, (and I admit it was a surprise so it's not a legit combat feat), then simply throwing off some top tiers from a calm state with a conqueror's burst might be viable. It takes extreme concentration to use FS.

What I want to know is if Shanks was known as a CoO killer or was FS stated somewhere. Because if it was, then really only a select few have FS, and most of them should be top tiers anyway. That would support the notion that it can be effective against top tiers.

 

[m0nst3Rx]

So mihawk were fighting with shanks without using CoO

 

[Boiroy]

So mihawk were fighting with shanks without using CoO

And still winning :O

 

[Xione]

If Shanks made GB sweat a bucket's worth from miles away, (and I admit it was a surprise so it's not a legit combat feat), then simply throwing off some top tiers from a calm state with a conqueror's burst might be viable. It takes extreme concentration to use FS.

What I want to know is if Shanks was known as a CoO killer or was FS stated somewhere. Because if it's FS really only a select few have it, and most of them should be top tiers anyway, that would support the notion that it can be effective against top tiers.

I think it does a good job at the entry or as a surprise mechanism allowing him to gain the initial advantage when the opponent is unprepared. Or just even at start of the fights. But it's hard to see any convinced Top Tier who's fully focused on the fight getting out of the focused calm state due to somebody's CoC.

With GB I think he was def. unhinged a bit since he was shaking a little from the blast. But had that been upfront with him focused on Shanks, I'm not sure if there'd be any shaking or unhinging going on.

I'd like to see its' application in actual battle first before taking it as something that negates a part of another top tier's haki.

 

[ZenZu]

I think it does a good job at the entry or as a surprise mechanism allowing him to gain the initial advantage when the opponent is unprepared. Or just even at start of the fights. But it's hard to see any convinced Top Tier who's fully focused on the fight getting out of the focused calm state due to somebody's CoC.

With GB I think he was def. unhinged a bit since he was shaking a little from the blast.

Maybe his conqueror's pressure sort of muddy's up observation in general? Like he releases reiatsu of sorts to throw an opponents senses off a bit. I don't see why something like this couldn't be used against a fellow top tier.

Maybe against lower tiers it completely shuts off their precog but against top tiers it lags a bit, so you end up relying more on your natural reflexes?

 

[Rokayder]

Stupid interpretation and exaggeration from Zorotard..
It could means Shanks has even top tier reaction, speed, Coo when his opponent's Coo did not effective against Shanks, that is the meaning of Coo Killer not magically can not use Coo..
It hype Shanks even more, and that is the goal.. but Zorotard miss interpret that to suit their agenda

 

[Boiroy]

Stupid interpretation and exaggeration from Zorotard..
It could means Shanks has even top tier reaction, speed, Coo when his opponent's Coo did not effective against Shanks, that is the meaning of Coo Killer not magically can not use Coo..
It hype Shanks even more, and that is the goal.. but Zorotard miss interpret that to suit their agenda

Whatever helps you to sleep well!

 

[ZenZu]

Whatever helps you to sleep well!

He's probably right tbf. Shanks simply being so fast that he speedblitzes is more in tune with how Oda does things. Hopefully not though.

 

[Boiroy]

He's probably right tbf. Shanks simply being so fast that he speedblitzes is more in tune with how Oda does things. Hopefully not though.

Then Kizaru is the godfather of Coo killer 😭

 

[Xione]

Maybe his conqueror's pressure sort of muddy's up observation in general? Like he releases reiatsu of sorts to throw an opponents senses off a bit. I don't see why something like this couldn't be used against a fellow top tier.

Maybe against lower tiers it completely shuts off their precog but against top tiers it lags a bit, so you end up relying more on your natural reflexes?

Well my viewpoint of why it can't be effective against a focused top tier (key is that the other top tier focused), is because the only way CoC would be able to muddy somebody's observation haki is by making them uncalm or unnerving them. Since the base of all COO is remaining calm for your senses (well that's also the base of battle senses/instincts in general).

My understanding of your viewpoint is that rather than unnerving the person and making em unable to focus on COO, he's effectiving the surroundings that mess up the field of vision granted by COO. Would that be right or am I understanding your viewpoint wrong?

 

[Sentry22]

Then Kizaru is the godfather of Coo killer 😭

Kizaru actually got blitzed by Shanks in this movie from their brief exchange. It's on YouTube.

Zoro fans take note. This is what a speed blitz really looks like. Not that Asura crap.

 

[ZenZu]

Well my viewpoint of why it can't be effective against a focused top tier (key is that the other top tier focused), is because the only way CoC would be able to muddy somebody's observation haki is by making them uncalm or unnerving them. Since the base of all COO is remaining calm for your senses (well that's also the base of battle senses/instincts in general).

My understanding of your viewpoint is that rather than unnerving the person and making em unable to focus on COO, he's effectiving the surroundings that mess up the field of vision granted by COO. Would that be right or am I understanding your viewpoint wrong?

Yea exactly. The former is what I meant originally, the latter is a possibility I came up with since you didn't think the idea of unnerving a fellow top tier was realistic.

I think that'd be a reasonable application of CoC. I'm not confident Oda cares enough to think this through though.

Then Kizaru is the godfather of Coo killer 😭

Kizaru has a chance to be a post Mihawk fight for Zoro, or maybe post Shiryu after Zoro improves his CoO? So who knows really. Nothing odd about Kizaru being that strong, he shouldn't be much weaker than Akainu.

 

[VisualKei]

Everything according to plan

 

[uyuu]

Kizaru actually got blitzed by Shanks in this movie from their brief exchange. It's on YouTube.

Zoro fans take note. This is what a speed blitz really looks like. Not that Asura crap.

That crazy speed feat...Kizaru can't react in time? Time for Shanks FTL Agenda to rise again

 

[Rokayder]

Whatever helps you to sleep well!

Same with You, if your interpretation helps you to sleep well and happy

 

[zador]

Kizaru actually got blitzed by Shanks in this movie from their brief exchange. It's on YouTube.

Zoro fans take note. This is what a speed blitz really looks like. Not that Asura crap.

Shanks should have shanked that bum Kizaru