Powers & Abilities Zoro and the Scabbards

[ImmaIvanoM]

I don't think you can scale it like that. For example Zoro was able to tame the Kitetsu back in East Blue, which were swords known for cursing and killing all of its owners. And East Blue Zoro was complete fodder to anyone in the new world yet he still was able to fight with the sword. So unless you believe NOBODY in the history if Kitetsu users even as strong as East Blue Zoro, then obviously 'taming' a sword is more than strength

We don’t know about Sandai so who knows, maybe only Fullbody Level Fodder we’re trying out Sandai and got capped... it’s not even a very good sword to begin with so maybe not many strong people tried

But for Enma we are given a pretty good run down of the history of the sword from when it was made to who was able to use it before and after so and Hitetsu even says Zoro has he potential to go beyond Oden and make it a black blade so as it stands, Zoro is looking to be quite above the Scabbards

Though granted, they’ve gotten stronger but the context clues of the story indicate that Inuarashi and company aren’t as strong as Oden even now

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We have Kinemon clearly stating that he would refuse the sword if it was given to him.
No Zoro is not above the likes of Shutenmaru and the dukes.

What about Kawamatsu gassing up Zoro too?

And even Hitetsu saying Zoro can turn the sword black?

What are all these guys gassing Zoro if he’s about as as strong as these other guys who are right there? In fact Kawamatsu is a literal peer of these guys

 

[SHIHI]

Lmaoo fuck outta here, Kinnemon can't wield it because he knows his ass would die. He was literally warning Zoro to not do it, Kinnemon knows the blade is insanely dangerous.

When you are told that no one in Wano history has been able to tame Enma, its a word of God. Its japanese cartoons, no need for "blah blah, they didn't try" "Blah blah Ashura Doji can do it", no if Ashura Doji could do it, he would do it. The country is being enslaved by Kaido, everyone is in famine, Hiyori's life is in danger etc, if any of the remaining scabbards could wield Enma they would.

What latest chapter proves (not that it should be a debate to begin with) is that Zoro shits (without Enma) on all Wano samurai besides Oden and Ryuma.

Not to mentioning mortally wouned Zoro missing his strongest weapon was equal to Kyoshiro who is 99.99% stronger than all scabbards plus he so casually blocked Kawamatsu while Kawamatsu's equal Shutenamaru obliterated Jack.

Why complicate stuff, lets go by feats.
Shuten speed blitzed Jack and sliced him in half.
Nekumamushi throw Jack like a bowling ball.

While Marimo, facing opponents a whole tier below Jack. Fainted from one and nailed by one.

So featwise. The scabbards >>>>>>> marimo.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Why complicate stuff, lets go by feats.
Shuten speed blitzed Jack and sliced him in half.
Nekumamushi throw Jack like a bowling ball.

While Marimo, facing opponents a whole tier below Jack. Fainted from one and nailed by one.

So featwise. The scabbards >>>>>>> marimo.

Lmaoo what?
All Ashura Doji did was fight a trash can like Base Jack who Zoro will eat for dinner.
Shuten didn't speed blitz Jack, Jack reacted to the attack, Jack was just too much of a trash can to actually block that shit. If a trash can like Shutenmaru did this to jack, imagine what mountain buster Zoro will do? Cut him clean in half in one shot.

Yet same Nekomashu couldn't do any damage to Base Jack despite getting 12 hours of rest each turn.

And Lmao at Zoro fighting opponents a level below Jack. He fought a literal moving mountain producing a feat that made Kinnemon take a dump in his pants. Its same kinnemon who has been there around with Oden saw him scar Kaido. Yet **** was scared shitless looking at the marvel Zoro preformed simply by flexing.

Jack LITERALLY stands zero chance against Pica lmao. Absolutely none. Not only does he have no hope of taking Pica out, he is literally a turtle who got bitch smacked by a walking elephant and got pimp smacked by Ashura Doji. No way in hell is he consistenly dodging Pica's Island shaking punches that produces far more force visually than Kong Gun. Two of those and its K.O jack.

Then he fought Kyoshiro while missing his strongest weapon and Kyoshiro could do fuck all to Zoro and Zoro was injured here. I am 99% sure Kyoshiro beats the shit outta jack in 1v1 fight.

Forget that, look at Kawamatsu vs Zoro which was similar to Ashura Doji vs Jack, only difference is Zoro shits on Jack and easily blocked Kawamatsu instead of getting his swords broken like a fodder.


And lmaoo at bringing "Zoro got one shot by Killer" like a literal parrot. Luffy also got one shot by Hody, didn't stop him from defeating Katakuri. If Killer used same stab on Ashura Doji, his ass is dying.

Lmaoo Featwise Zoro shits on all the commanders, how the fuck are you gonna compare him to trash can scabbards?

 

[SHIHI]

Lmaoo what?
All Ashura Doji did was fight a trash can like Base Jack who Zoro will eat for dinner.
Shuten didn't speed blitz Jack, Jack reacted to the attack, Jack was just too much of a trash can to actually block that shit. If a trash can like Shutenmaru did this to jack, imagine what mountain buster Zoro will do? Cut him clean in half in one shot.

Yet same Nekomashu couldn't do any damage to Base Jack despite getting 12 hours of rest each turn.

And Lmao at Zoro fighting opponents a level below Jack. He fought a literal moving mountain producing a feat that made Kinnemon take a dump in his pants. Its same kinnemon who has been there around with Oden saw him scar Kaido. Yet **** was scared shitless looking at the marvel Zoro preformed simply by flexing.

Jack LITERALLY stands zero chance against Pica lmao. Absolutely none. Not only does he have no hope of taking Pica out, he is literally a turtle who got bitch smacked by a walking elephant and got pimp smacked by Ashura Doji. No way in hell is he consistenly dodging Pica's Island shaking punches that produces far more force visually than Kong Gun. Two of those and its K.O jack.

Then he fought Kyoshiro while missing his strongest weapon and Kyoshiro could do fuck all to Zoro and Zoro was injured here. I am 99% sure Kyoshiro beats the shit outta jack in 1v1 fight.

Forget that, look at Kawamatsu vs Zoro which was similar to Ashura Doji vs Jack, only difference is Zoro shits on Jack and easily blocked Kawamatsu instead of getting his swords broken like a fodder.


And lmaoo at bringing "Zoro got one shot by Killer" like a literal parrot. Luffy also got one shot by Hody, didn't stop him from defeating Katakuri. If Killer used same stab on Ashura Doji, his ass is dying.

Lmaoo Featwise Zoro shits on all the commanders, how the fuck are you gonna compare him to trash can scabbards?

Lmfao at Pica > Jack.
You are a troll who is bad at trolling.
and Zoro “lack of skill” that got him damaged. Ashura skills won’t allow fodders like Killer and Gyukimaru to take him out.

 

[CbShadow]

Why complicate stuff, lets go by feats.
Shuten speed blitzed Jack and sliced him in half.
Nekumamushi throw Jack like a bowling ball.

While Marimo, facing opponents a whole tier below Jack. Fainted from one and nailed by one.

So featwise. The scabbards >>>>>>> marimo.

You said let's go buy feats but then you don't.

Jack was never speed blitzed. He was hurt because Shuten was able to cut through Jack's steel sword that he used to try to block the attack. That shows Shuten knows one of the powerful sword style from Wano.

Zoro didn't faint, he fought through that attack until the battle was over. He was only hit because he didn't consider the other opponent a threat.

Zoro was hit with the nails because he jumped in front of the nails to protect Otama. Those nails did absolutely nothing to him.

We still have Zoro feats against Pica. Cutting his body apart like it's nothing. Some of those attacks were none named attacks.

 

[Zowo]

Lmfao at Pica > Jack.
You are a troll who is bad at trolling.
and Zoro “lack of skill” that got him damaged. Ashura skills won’t allow fodders like Killer and Gyukimaru to take him out.

yeah and in 953 zoro easlily dodged kawamatsu he won t fall for the same shit twice lmao it s like saying sanji will get his bone cracked a second time

 

[CbShadow]

Lmfao at Pica > Jack.
You are a troll who is bad at trolling.
and Zoro “lack of skill” that got him damaged. Ashura skills won’t allow fodders like Killer and Gyukimaru to take him out.

I guess you forgot the part where Zoro was only injured because he didn't consider the fox a threat and wasn't taking him serious.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Lmfao at Pica > Jack.
You are a troll who is bad at trolling.
and Zoro “lack of skill” that got him damaged. Ashura skills won’t allow fodders like Killer and Gyukimaru to take him out.

How the fuck is Jack gonna push Pica past low diff tell me? Try to give me one feat from Jack that suggest he can even destroy Pica's head?

Lmaoo yes it was Zoro's lack of skill that he couldn't dodge killer consistently despite getting distracted. Not that Zoro was less skilled than Killer.

Luffy nearly died from Hody bite due to his lack of skill as well. He said so himself his Haki is ass water

 

[Zowo]

How the fuck is Jack gonna push Pica past low diff tell me? Try to give me one feat from Jack that suggest he can even destroy Pica's head?

Lmaoo yes it was Zoro's lack of skill that he couldn't dodge killer consistently despite getting distracted. Not that Zoro was less skilled than Killer.

Luffy nearly died from Hody bite due to his lack of skill as well. He said so himself his Haki is ass water

that dude thinks zoro will faint a second time

 

[SHIHI]

You said let's go buy feats but then you don't.

Jack was never speed blitzed. He was hurt because Shuten was able to cut through Jack's steel sword that he used to try to block the attack. That shows Shuten knows one of the powerful sword style from Wano.

Zoro didn't faint, he fought through that attack until the battle was over. He was only hit because he didn't consider the other opponent a threat.

Zoro was hit with the nails because he jumped in front of the nails to protect Otama. Those nails did absolutely nothing to him.

We still have Zoro feats against Pica. Cutting his body apart like it's nothing. Some of those attacks were none named attacks.

Lets me rewrite the feats you stated but without the fanboy glasses.

1- Jack got speed blitzed, he did not even get to a battle stance or coat his blade in haki
2- Zoro fainted before the fight was over , as his original opponents was the fox and not killer, and The fox clearly stated that he would attack Zoro even if he was fighting Killer, and he was a threat because he had fucking shusui with him.
3- Zoro did not protect Tama, as he himself told Luffy to protect Tama while he handle the monster.
4-Pica is a nobody, We have Luffy Breaking several walls of dense steel with just the impact of Grizzly magnum, 3 arcs later he could not break a biscuit with G3. Pica is just a pile of rock.

So either you read the manga properly or stop waisting my time.

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Btw Zoro with a PU (Enma) will still get trashed by King.
While the scabbards are already owning calamaties.
This shows how weak Zoro is

 

[Cyrus the Cactus]

Lets me rewrite the feats you stated but without the fanboy glasses.

1- Jack got speed blitzed, he did not even get to a battle stance or coat his blade in haki
2- Zoro fainted before the fight was over , as his original opponents was the fox and not killer, and The fox clearly stated that he would attack Zoro even if he was fighting Killer, and he was a threat because he had fucking shusui with him.
3- Zoro did not protect Tama, as he himself told Luffy to protect Tama while he handle the monster.
4-Pica is a nobody, We have Luffy Breaking several walls of dense steel with just the impact of Grizzly magnum, 3 arcs later he could not break a biscuit with G3. Pica is just a pile of rock.

So either you read the manga properly or stop waisting my time.

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Btw Zoro with a PU (Enma) will still get trashed by King.
While the scabbards are already owning calamaties.
This shows how weak Zoro is

If we're going by feats, Jack can't beat Pica :cheers:

 

[Zowo]

Lets me rewrite the feats you stated but without the fanboy glasses.

1- Jack got speed blitzed, he did not even get to a battle stance or coat his blade in haki
2- Zoro fainted before the fight was over , as his original opponents was the fox and not killer, and The fox clearly stated that he would attack Zoro even if he was fighting Killer, and he was a threat because he had fucking shusui with him.
3- Zoro did not protect Tama, as he himself told Luffy to protect Tama while he handle the monster.
4-Pica is a nobody, We have Luffy Breaking several walls of dense steel with just the impact of Grizzly magnum, 3 arcs later he could not break a biscuit with G3. Pica is just a pile of rock.

So either you read the manga properly or stop waisting my time.

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Btw Zoro with a PU (Enma) will still get trashed by King.
While the scabbards are already owning calamaties.
This shows how weak Zoro is

dude ur a clown zoro weak? let s wait and see who will be his hypetool for testing enma and the shit with fainting well see later how much damage he will wisthand this arc .luffy went for needing blood transfusion from hodys wound to resisting a blow to the abdomen from katakuri

 

[SHIHI]

dude ur a clown zoro weak? let s wait and see who will be his hypetool for testing enma and the shit with fainting well see later how much damage he will wisthand this arc mr clown.luffy went for needing blood transfusion from hodys wound to resisting a blow to the abdomen from katakuri

The difference is Luffy did not faint until the battle was over, the guy was even on the process of destroying an Island size ship with that wound. While Zoro fainted and could not get his sword back lmao.

As I said, Zoro with a PU = still gets destroyed by a calamaty
Scabbards = overpower a calamaty.
Zoro is a weakling, just get over it.

 

[SHIHI]

Well let s see when zoro fights how weak he will be i don t have time arguing with clowns u know and the thing with pica
jack got owned by zunisha what you will expect when pica punches him? have a good time mr

It seems like you could not stand the heat and begun using insults lmao.
No worries, we won’t your feelings by roasting your precious marimo again

 

[Chrono]

No it doesnt mean that.

 

[HA001]

No it doesnt mean that.

Of course it does. It means exactly that and zoro is near oden level to even be able to use it.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Oda sends a clear message of Zoro being above the Wano Samurais yet the fandom y

Of course it does. It means exactly that and zoro is near oden level to even be able to use it.

"SHow Me tHe pAnEls Of EACh WaN0 cITizEn tRyiNg t0 hOld it"

 

[HA001]

Oda sends a clear message of Zoro being above the Wano Samurais yet the fandom y

"SHow Me tHe pAnEls Of EACh WaN0 cITizEn tRyiNg t0 hOld it"

Tengu says all after odens death too. Now the respect excuse is pretty weak if they think the scabbards didnt try but let randomers try

 

[SHIHI]

Oda sends a clear message of Zoro being above the Wano Samurais yet the fandom y

"SHow Me tHe pAnEls Of EACh WaN0 cITizEn tRyiNg t0 hOld it"

Oda sends a clear message of Zoro getting a power up with Enma

Zorotards “ ShOw mE A pAnEl oF sHUsuI nEaR a ClifF”

 

[Chrono]

Of course it does. It means exactly that and zoro is near oden level to even be able to use it.

Lol so easy to bait you guy. Man if only fish were as gullible as you guys