Spoiler Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1057 Spoilers Discussion

[gz89]

Bro got compared to Magellan. Magellan, you know, the guy who could barely withstand a jet bazooka from pre ts Luffy?

Well we have a supposedly "final" villain named BB that took a g2 hakiless attack and screamed like a bitch, and somehow we have to take this guy as a real threat now because reasons.

 

[BangOO🍅]

Germa Cover Story better leading up to Vegapunk stuff

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I'm tired of people saying Zoro will fight Shiryu. The invisibility fruit was useless for combat once observation haki was introduced.

Outside of Sanji, there hasn’t been a single CoO user able to sense invisibility. Plus if the fruits awakened it’ll be really good

 

[Seven7]

But that was before his DF^^
With a devil fruit, you can jump an entire tier.
I mean for normal people, logias are literally gods.

Shiryu with invisibility power is perfect. He plays dirty and he will be dirty against Zoro.

Since few arcs, Zoro's opponents are all more into hax than strenght alone.

But I agree Oda should wank that fight because it feels "empty" ?

Don't worry shiryu will have adv conqueror's and awakened fruit

 

[zzShinichi]

But that was before his DF^^
With a devil fruit, you can jump an entire tier.
I mean for normal people, logias are literally gods.

Shiryu with invisibility power is perfect. He plays dirty and he will be dirty against Zoro.

Since few arcs, Zoro's opponents are all more into hax than strenght alone.

But I agree Oda should wank that fight because it feels "empty" ?

I hope Shiryu wont rely on his DF much and engage on Zoro on a straight sword duel. Zoro is long overdue for a good sword fight post TS anyway

 

[MarineHQ]

Completely dumb logic. Someone cannot be ON YOUR level in base if they need a higher form to best you and still lose in said higher form. Your logic is like saying that base naruto is as strong as jigen just because he was able to clash one punch with him in base. Well if that were the case he would need to almost kill him self (killed Karamazov instead) to beat said person

What in the hell are you talking about ?
Kaido used everything in his arsenal against Base Luffy already, everything apart from Kaen hakke.

- Hybrid+Adv CoC+ Drunken modes vs Base Luffy and this is how Luffy performed:

So going by your logic Hybrid Kaido was too weak to fight Base Luffy as he used drunken modes to get stronger meaning Hybrid Kaido is not on Base Luffy's level...make it make sense lmao.

 

[rerere]

【The strength of these criminals bought in by Lord Momonosuke and Kin’emon are certainly impressive!!! They wrecked havoc with power like a true “Wisdom King”!!
Even “Kaido the Dragon King” and “Yokai” Great Oiran couldn’t best them,
their last moment was one that splits the sky!!!】

AVE MONKEY
AVE EUSTASS
AVE TRAFALGAR

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Duhh clearly Orochi had thousands of thousands bastard kids atleast and those kids still biologically Kurozumi

 

[Aknolagon]

People are living in a pink dreamworld and are hypocritical as fuck at the same time.

They don't even realize that 99% of all people would react the same way Hyori did in RL (understandably so).

"All foreigners are not dangerous, they are not all the same", but *hold their bag tightly when they see one "just in case"*



Human natures... But I wonder if Oda did that in purpose to trigger the readers ? could be or maybe not lol

 

[MarineHQ]

There are actually people who think even current Luffy ain't on Kaido's level lol.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Well we have a supposedly "final" villain named BB that took a g2 hakiless attack and screamed like a bitch, and somehow we have to take this guy as a real threat now because reasons.

I really hope he awakens both his fruits and gets advanced haki, easy way to become a huge threat even to the main character ( even if he'll eventually lose or even die to Luffy or one of Luffy's allies ).

 

[zzShinichi]

Duhh clearly Orochi had thousands of thousands bastard kids atleast and those kids still biologically Kurozumi

We have like 20s on Worst Gen alone

 

[dirtyLarry]

Germa Cover Story better leading up to Vegapunk stuff

At this point I doubt Vegapunk will ever be relevant to the story.

I'm 100% convinced Oda has zero idea what to do with him and just drags out his reveal more and more until he can basically deal with him in a few panels (quite frankly applies to a lot of the major mysteries in the series).

 

[Lion of Olympus]

It’s a shame that the Germa cover story is more interesting and engaging than the actual story right now lol

 

[dirtyLarry]

"All foreigners are not dangerous, they are not all the same", but *hold their bag tightly when they see one "just in case"*



Human natures... But I wonder if Oda did that in purpose to trigger the readers ? could be or maybe not lol

The way Oda has written the end of Wano I could totally see him smoking a blunt and just go "fuck it, I write whatever I want, doesn't matter if some people cry about it, they'll buy my shit anyway" for the past few months.

 

[Starbound Beast D. Draig]

It’s a shame that the Germa cover story is more interesting and engaging than the actual story right now lol

To be fair any story with Gangster Gastino is more interesting than the actual story

 

[Aknolagon]

We have like 20s on Worst Gen alone

His kids will take revenge in 20 years.
The list :

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Perhaps the most important message :
if you want challenge/revolt against a hegemon and status quo, prepare for collective punishment for anyone related with you in any sort of way as consequence,
If you failed of course.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

i will not be shocked if some of these points got adressed in vivrecard/magazine or something like that

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[Blazing Lion]

There are actually people who think even current Luffy ain't on Kaido's level lol.

There is an issue with Luffy being above Kaido, if we consider Luffy on Kaido level and then Luffy beating Kaido when their strongest moves collide than this would mean that Luffy is the WSC. And Luffy being the WSC when the final arc begins seems underwhelming to me. If you mean on level that they can go extreme diff if they start afresh then I can get behind that. However I still would say Kaido >= Luffy simply due to the overall showing. The fight even after Gear 5 was not something like Gear 4 vs Doffy where Gear 4 completely stomped Doffy. And the worst part is that we did not see Kaido's awakening who knew what DF awakenings look like (Zoan and Paramecia) or Oda did an extremely shit job of showing Kaido's awakening which nobody noticed (I don't accept the bulkier face and upper body as awakening).