Chapter Discussion One Piece - Chapter 977 : "The Party Won't Start Now"

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TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Explain why he couldn't defeat Inuarashi in 1 day
They only fought for 12 hours, that's why. Then Inuarashi had ample time to rebuild his stamina and heal.

Why couldn't Inuarashi or Nekomamushi, equals, beat Jack in 2 days given their advantages? If they are Yonkou 3.5, according to you, then how couldn't they put him down? According to you, they are near equals and Jack was fighting them constantly while they rested?

Inu still manage ragdolled him. Jack had a chance to fight Inuarashi multiple times but he still coudln't put Inuarashi down.
It's like you're not reading what I'm writing. Jack's best stats are endurance and durability. Moreso the former. Based on what we know about Zou Arc, Jack beats his opponents by wearing them down.

And it was also Oda who made Denjiro doesnt have confidence to destroy the fortress as fast as SH even though he has Inuarashi and Ashura who are close to Jack level so maybe Jack is not that strong after all.
Lmfao. So, let's reevaluate what happened again.

1—Denjiro states the fortress is strong
2—All the Straw Hats sans the Weakling Trio deals with the pirates with ease
3—Denjiro is amazed

So, somehow Franky, Robin and Brook manhandling those pirates downgrades Jack? Or, does it mean that Denjiro is;

1—Overly cautious
2—Underestimating the Straw Hats
3—His perception is skewed and not too reliable

Because, honestly, unless you're gonna suggest Brook, Robin and Franky are close to Ashura, Denjiro and the Dukes, your answer is #3.

Jack in his zoan form couldn't defeat Inuarashi in 1 day. Denjiro thought someone who lasted 1 day against full zoan Jack and Ashura who is close to said someone would have difficulty to destroy the fortress while casual SH did it easily.
Lmao. What kind of logic is this? Again, we're elevating the Mid Trio to the level of Dressrosa Law if you think Denjiro's concerns are to be taken seriously. And again, Brook was no diffed by Perospero just an arc ago.

There's so many holes in Denjiro's assessment, it's staggering.

But Jack is YC4 more or less based on this chapter so is King YC1 lmao
No, that's your headcanon. Unless you also think that Oda made a deliberate call-back to Shanks/Whitebeard's meeting with Kaido and Big Mom, down to Linlin requesting the winged right hand man join her crew, is all just nonsense too, huh?
 
In all honesty Kaido and BM alliance seems lacking in comparison!
U think?

Luffy alliance has only one low top tier, the other two mid to high top tier.
So Luffy will need two high tiers by his side, BM will need 2-3 to be occupied.
Luffy´s side has Jinbe, Zoro, Sanji, Law, Kid, Ashura, Dukes, Kyoshiro as high tiers, if you count Drake = 10.
10-6 = 4.
And there are 4 high tiers with King, Queen, Jack and Smoothie.
Seems fitting.
 
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They only fought for 12 hours, that's why. Then Inuarashi had ample time to rebuild his stamina and heal.
But zoan Jack still couldn't beat Inuarashi in 1 day right? You still haven't answered that question.

Why couldn't Inuarashi or Nekomamushi, equals, beat Jack in 2 days given their advantages? If they are Yonkou 3.5, according to you, then how couldn't they put him down? According to you, they are near equals and Jack was fighting them constantly while they rested?
Because Jack is a bit stronger than them. If Jack is way stronger than them Jack can defeat them in 1 day.

It's like you're not reading what I'm writing. Jack's best stats are endurance and durability. Moreso the former. Based on what we know about Zou Arc, Jack beats his opponents by wearing them down.
SO his physical and speed stats are lacking. Not YC3 material lol

Lmfao. So, let's reevaluate what happened again.

1—Denjiro states the fortress is strong
2—All the Straw Hats sans the Weakling Trio deals with the pirates with ease
3—Denjiro is amazed
Hmm yeah he was amazed because what he thought would be difficult for scabbard even with Inuarashi and Ashura who are a bit weaker than Jack, could be easily done by casual SH

So, somehow Franky, Robin and Brook manhandling those pirates downgrades Jack? Or, does it mean that Denjiro is;

1—Overly cautious
2—Underestimating the Straw Hats
3—His perception is skewed and not too reliable
Yes it looks Jack look bad because Denjiro even with Inuarashi and Ashura who are a bit weaker than Jack would have difficulty while casual SH did it casually.

1. Of course he is cautious his ally will fight Kaido after all:sanmoji:
2. He didn't underestimate SH. He was impressed by SH. How do you come to that conclusion? :sanmoji:
3. How is his perception skewed? Becaue he disagree with your powerscaling? :sanmoji:

Because, honestly, unless you're gonna suggest Brook, Robin and Franky are close to Ashura, Denjiro and the Dukes, your answer is #3.


Lmao. What kind of logic is this? Again, we're elevating the Mid Trio to the level of Dressrosa Law if you think Denjiro's concerns are to be taken seriously. And again, Brook was no diffed by Perospero just an arc ago.

There's so many holes in Denjiro's assessment, it's staggering.
Yeah that's why it makes no sense for Robin and Franky to be that strong unless Ashura and Inuarashi who are close to Jack level are just YC4 or below :sanmoji:
No, that's your headcanon. Unless you also think that Oda made a deliberate call-back to Shanks/Whitebeard's meeting with Kaido and Big Mom, down to Linlin requesting the winged right hand man join her crew, is all just nonsense too, huh?
Because King is from rare race. Nothing to do with his strength :sanmoji:
 
U think?

Luffy alliance has only one low top tier, the other two mid to high top tier.
So Luffy will need two high tiers by his side, BM will need 2-3 to be occupied.
Luffy´s side has Jinbe, Zoro, Sanji, Law, Kid, Ashura, Dukes, Kyoshiro as high tiers, if you count Drake = 10.
10-6 = 4.
And there are 4 high tiers with King, Queen, Jack and Smoothie.
Seems fitting.
Well, if we count crew members only... and this isn’t the complete SHs alliance! Marco could come! About BM, she definitely gonna be facing a top tier from a third party! Possibly Kizaru to occupy BM and defeat her.. other wise nothing stopping Kaido & BM alone from annihilating the whole SHs alliance side...
 
Well, if we count crew members only... and this isn’t the complete SHs alliance! Marco could come! About BM, she definitely gonna be facing a top tier from a third party! Possibly Kizaru to occupy BM and defeat her.. other wise nothing stopping Kaido & BM alone from annihilating the whole SHs alliance side...
Well yeah but that´s a if. If Marines come it´s completely one-sided obviously.
 
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