You are right God does not need us but he is trying to save us because he made us but man is rebelling against Jesus constantly. He made us and more 90% of us don't care or acknowledge it. Jesus literally made man to become God but again pastors are withholding information and lying to their congregation which is why I am doing this, to show people what the bible is really saying. With scriptures I can show that God is making man to become God so if you wanted to turn water to wine you can if you make it into the Kingdom. This is why God is testing us with Satan. Satan was perfect and rebelled against him. You think he wants a bunch of evil Gods running around? That's why he got rid of Adam before he learned how to live forever.
If you put precept upon precept you will see exactly what the LORD has been saying since he made man but we don't understand. In the kingdom of heaven there will be joy. God knows happiness better than you, if says you will be happy then trust me you will. It won't be boring as you think.
Again the Kingdom of heaven will be here on Earth which is why he made it in the first place. God is not vain. He did make Earth just to take us off of it. Notice whenever you say the our father prayer? Our father art in Heaven (3rd heaven where he is) hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come.... It says kingdom come, the kingdom is coming to us we don't go to it. Christians don't believe the stuff that come out of their own mouth because the devil is deceiving them.
I know where people got that from but again people misunderstood because of how the bible is written. This is why the book appears sealed to some. You MUST study topics like how Isaiah 28: 10 tells you how For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
Essentially the precepts are like puzzle pieces. When you have the right pieces you can tell a story but what pastors are doing are interpreting the bible which creates false doctrine which is why there is soo many denominations of Christianity. Everyone worshipping God according to their understanding.
Proverbs 3: 5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
I'm telling you this because angels do not sleep with human women otherwise Jesus is liar. I do not expect you to believe me but I can show you what I mean with biblical scriptures.
The bible clearly talks about nephilims Genesis 6:1-6 Numbers 13:33.
If Lucifer,an angel,could rebel(free will),so can the others who wish to fall too.
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Also,what do you think of this?My bible doesn't talk about lions,but it says the wolf will sleep with the lamb.Is there something going on here,i already was warned by the local priest that there are many translation mistakes in our brazilian-portuguese version of the bible.
Spirit beings do not procreate that's why God made man. So you are correct angels never have and were never able to have sex. In the first place you need to be of the same kind to reproduce. A dog and a cat cannot reproduce. That's why in Genesis 1 it says everything after its own Kind.
Luke 20: 34 - 36 34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
What people also don't understand is that there are three sets of sons of God. The sons of God in Genesis were talking about man not angels.
Romans 8: 1, 14 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Luke 3: 21 - 24, 37 - 38
Verse 38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
Most of the scripture runs down the lineage of Seth who everyone forgot about but everyone knows the famous Cain and Abel. You can read on your own this proves that humans are the sons of God not just angels and this is exactly why Satan hates us. He wants to kill us because of jealously just like how Cain slew Abel. Satan does not want us to become God.
The bible clearly talks about nephilims Genesis 6:1-6 Numbers 13:33.
If Lucifer,an angel,could rebel(free will),so can the others who wish to fall too.
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Also,what do you of this?My bible doesn't talk about lions,but it says the wolf will sleep with the lamb.Is there something going on here,i already was warned by the local priest that there are many translation mistakes in our brazilian-portuguese version of the bible.
Also,for those that are non-believers,search for:miracles of fatima and other related supernatural phenomena,Prophecies of Daniel and recent archeological discoveries that confirm historical citys cited in the bible and other events.
Spirit beings do not procreate that's why God made man. So you are correct angels never have and were never able to have sex. In the first place you need to be of the same kind to reproduce. A dog and a cat cannot reproduce. That's why in Genesis 1 it says everything after its own Kind.
Luke 20: 34 - 36 34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
What people also don't understand is that there are three sets of sons of God. The sons of God in Genesis were talking about man not angels.
Romans 8: 1, 14 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Luke 3: 21 - 24, 37 - 38
Verse 38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
Most of the scripture runs down the lineage of Seth who everyone forgot about but everyone knows the famous Cain and Abel. You can read on your own this proves that humans are the sons of God not just angels and this is exactly why Satan hates us. He wants to kill us because of jealously just like how Cain slew Abel. Satan does not want us to become God.
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Read my post above. Also I don't see the word nephilims in the scriptures you just showed to me.
Daniel prophecies basically predicted the fall of the meso-persian empire,Alexander's rise and fall,Rome's rise and fall and the constant attempts to unite Europe which all fail in the end.
Daniel prophecies basically predicted the fall of the meso-persian empire,Alenxader's rise and fall,Rome's rise and fall and the constant attempts to unite Europe wich all fail in the end.
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No,dude this stuff was mentioned in the bible and here is archeological proof that it really happened.
Yea but we were talking about the sons of God. Anyway history does prove that all of that happened. I am not disagreeing here.
We waiting for the 10th head of the beast. Not sure when that will happen but being that man now has nuclear weapons and social media, the table is set for the prophecy to occur. Which is why you should NOT believe anyone that says Jesus can come anytime. That's a lie, this is why the LORD said you need two witness to establish a fact. He won't just show up at any moment. He is going to put this world through hell first. That's why pastors keep their church out of Revelation.
Yea but we were talking about the sons of God. Anyway history does prove that all of that happened. I am not disagreeing here.
We waiting for the 10th head of the beast. Not sure when that will happen but being that man now has nuclear weapons and social media, the table is set for the prophecy to occur. Which is why you should NOT believe anyone that says Jesus can come anytime. That's a lie, this is why the LORD said you need two witness to establish a fact. He won't just show up at any moment. He is going to put this world through hell first. That's why pastors keep their church out of Revelation.
In apocalypse somewhere,it is mentioned that man all over the world would witness natural disasters of crazy magnitude.With the advent of tv and the internet,all man can witness such event i believe we are not very far from the end.I just hope to die before the hardcore stuff begins.
Yea but we were talking about the sons of God. Anyway history does prove that all of that happened. I am not disagreeing here.
We waiting for the 10th head of the beast. Not sure when that will happen but being that man now has nuclear weapons and social media, the table is set for the prophecy to occur. Which is why you should NOT believe anyone that says Jesus can come anytime. That's a lie, this is why the LORD said you need two witness to establish a fact. He won't just show up at any moment. He is going to put this world through hell first. That's why pastors keep their church out of Revelation.
watch the video i posted,there is something weird going on with the scriptures translations.My bible says "wolf" instead of "lion".I take wolf as Satan,the adversary, and Lion,Jesus our Lord.Lamb=us.
here is martin luther king's speech where he says lion not wolf.
Daniel prophecies basically predicted the fall of the meso-persian empire,Alenxader's rise and fall,Rome's rise and fall and the constant attempts to unite Europe wich all fail in the end.
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No,dude this stuff was mentioned in the bible and here is archeological proof that it really happened.
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I admit to never have read the bible fully which is a mistake of course.One that i will fix till the end of this year.
You provided proof for Alexander knocking off the Mido Persian empire which is a historical fact and was talked about in the bible before it even happened. There is nothing to support nephilims because angels do not sleep with human or women, they don't even sleep with other angels. That's a fairytale. Giants and nephelims are not the same. The giants can clearly be killed. Angels don't die (which is why God made the lake of fire for them which don't exist ....YET) and if they could have offspring that means their offspring won't die so God drowning the world would not have gotten rid of nephelims if they existed.
In apocalypse somewhere,it is mentioned that man all over the world would witness natural disasters of crazy magnitude.With the advent of tv and the internet,all man can witness such event i believe we are not very far from the end.I just hope to die before the hardcore stuff begins.
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watch the video i posted,there is something weird going on with the scriptures translations.My bible says "wolf" instead of "lion".I take wolf as Satan,the adversary, and Lion,Jesus our Lord.Lamb=us.
here is martin luther king's speech where he says lion not wolf.
I use the KJV, the translation is fine as long as you look at the bible the way the LORD told you how. What you do is read from Genesis to Revelation and when you study topics, line upon line. The most important thing is to ask God for wisdom and understanding.
Yea but we were talking about the sons of God. Anyway history does prove that all of that happened. I am not disagreeing here.
We waiting for the 10th head of the beast. Not sure when that will happen but being that man now has nuclear weapons and social media, the table is set for the prophecy to occur. Which is why you should NOT believe anyone that says Jesus can come anytime. That's a lie, this is why the LORD said you need two witness to establish a fact. He won't just show up at any moment. He is going to put this world through hell first. That's why pastors keep their church out of Revelation.
By hell,i bet it is:war,famine,pandemics and slavery.Real life World Government is very possible and it would also be very fucking evil.Just look all the stuff the Romans used to do.
You provided proof for Alexander knocking off the Mido Persian empire which is a historical fact and was talked about in the bible before it even happened. There is nothing to support nephilims because angels do not sleep with human or women, they don't even sleep with other angels. That's a fairytale. Giants and nephelims are not the same. The giants can clearly be killed. Angels don't die (which is why God made the lake of fire for them which don't exist ....YET) and if they could have offspring that means their offspring won't die so God drowning the world would not have gotten rid of nephelims if they existed.
I use the KJV, the translation is fine as long as you look at the bible the way the LORD told you how. What you do is read from Genesis to Revelation and when you study topics, line upon line. The most important thing is to ask God for wisdom and understanding.
By hell,i bet it is:war,famine,pandemics and slavery.Real life World Government is very possible and it would also be very fucking evil.Just look all the stuff the Romans used to do.
Honestly there is not much you can do about people who don't believe in the bible. Jesus says he will accept those who will come because the world hate Jesus and he let us know straight up. If we start serving him then people will hate you because its Jesus is the one who they hate and he was 100% right. Jesus is fully aware that mankind detest him.
Which is why I said in the thread i'm talking bible, yet I got hate when I attack literally no one.
Hmmm
Interesting
I’m not christian
But I enjoyed the manga author work on his world building Lol…
I’m at a point where I’m starting to believe that everything that was taught to us about religions is to stop us from connecting with other countries with different beliefs “fearing to be corrupted by their thoughts” in order for our leaders to justify their wars & invasions on each others countries for resources by painting the enemy as “enemies of our religions”
and all this heaven talk is a fake promise for a future to give your life for that authority.. nothing more.. basically telling you.. it’s okay to sacrifice yourself for us.. you’ll be in heaven similing on us
Not to mention how religions always change their interpret of verses regarding science discovery…
When a verse describes a scietific thing.. and later on it is discovered that it is the opposite.. the interpretation suddenly changes into “well it was only a metaphor” or a different excuse
This is to keep all religions on different parts staying active and going for the world leaders to use for their advantage when they like
Hmmm
Interesting
I’m not christian
But I enjoyed the manga author work on his world building Lol…
I’m at a point where I’m starting to believe that everything that was taught to us about religions is to stop us from connecting with other countries with different beliefs “fearing to be corrupted by their thoughts” in order for our leaders to justify their wars & invasions on each others countries for resources by painting the enemy as “enemies of our religions”
and all this heaven talk is a fake promise for a future to give your life for that authority.. nothing more.. basically telling you.. it’s okay to sacrifice yourself for us.. you’ll be in heaven similing on us
Not to mention how religions always change their interpret of verses regarding science discovery…
When a verse describes a scietific thing.. and later on it is discovered that it is the opposite.. the interpretation suddenly changes into “well it was only a metaphor” or a different excuse
This is to keep all religions on different parts staying active and going for the world leaders to use for their advantage when they like
Well religions do vary greatly in their contents even the Abrahamic trio has its fair share of differences...
The whole point of religions is to premise your existence upon something
and give reason to it...its up to you to accept it or not there is no self-serving ulterior motive here.. if folks in power nitpick verses to suit their agendas don't blame the motive behind the religion fron their double standards i think that much is fair.
And Religious insecurities are natural again... for instance your mom has no agenda's when she tells you to not talk with strangers .. its is a contingency mechanism for your safety.. for religions.. take an ideal example of Islam, we are told not to shift to foreign countries unless its a do or die situation and which is can guaranteed your physical and religious well being. one would argue the west is tolerant.. which is a whole can of worms in of itself but i digress , the point is.. you are susceptible to the environment, culture, and norms of the country that can influence your religious wellbeing directly in the form of Major major sins.. so naturally shifting to Muslim minority countries is something to be considered as last resort.. so no wonder why Islam in this case doesn't entertain the idea for pretty valid reasons .
ofc all the mystical talk is up to your level of understand or belief in the concept but that's not the purpose of religions
Hmmm
Interesting
I’m not christian
But I enjoyed the manga author work on his world building Lol…
I’m at a point where I’m starting to believe that everything that was taught to us about religions is to stop us from connecting with other countries with different beliefs “fearing to be corrupted by their thoughts” in order for our leaders to justify their wars & invasions on each others countries for resources by painting the enemy as “enemies of our religions”
and all this heaven talk is a fake promise for a future to give your life for that authority.. nothing more.. basically telling you.. it’s okay to sacrifice yourself for us.. you’ll be in heaven similing on us
Not to mention how religions always change their interpret of verses regarding science discovery…
When a verse describes a scietific thing.. and later on it is discovered that it is the opposite.. the interpretation suddenly changes into “well it was only a metaphor” or a different excuse
This is to keep all religions on different parts staying active and going for the world leaders to use for their advantage when they like
there is a lot of social control on the abrahamic religions for sure,but there is a also the true religious practice that will connect you with the espiritual side of reality.Read my posts above where i point out archeological findings that proves some stuff that is mentioned in the bible.The Bible is NOT your average book.
Hmmm
Interesting
I’m not christian
But I enjoyed the manga author work on his world building Lol…
I’m at a point where I’m starting to believe that everything that was taught to us about religions is to stop us from connecting with other countries with different beliefs “fearing to be corrupted by their thoughts” in order for our leaders to justify their wars & invasions on each others countries for resources by painting the enemy as “enemies of our religions”
and all this heaven talk is a fake promise for a future to give your life for that authority.. nothing more.. basically telling you.. it’s okay to sacrifice yourself for us.. you’ll be in heaven similing on us
Not to mention how religions always change their interpret of verses regarding science discovery…
When a verse describes a scietific thing.. and later on it is discovered that it is the opposite.. the interpretation suddenly changes into “well it was only a metaphor” or a different excuse
This is to keep all religions on different parts staying active and going for the world leaders to use for their advantage when they like
The first Christians were all persecuted and killed by Rome.That is the true religion,not giving up your beliefs even in the face of death.
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Jesus himself was basically anti-establishment too.He did some heavy criticism of his rulers back in the day,that is why he got killed off,because people were starting to listen to him.We can argue Christianity got tainted when Constantino adopted it as the official religion of the empire.Rome had a habit of incorporating different pagan religions into its culture to provide social cohesion,i believe some of those pagan practices got into Christianity to appease those different cultures that were part of the empire,unfortunately.
Hmmm
Interesting
I’m not christian
But I enjoyed the manga author work on his world building Lol…
I’m at a point where I’m starting to believe that everything that was taught to us about religions is to stop us from connecting with other countries with different beliefs “fearing to be corrupted by their thoughts” in order for our leaders to justify their wars & invasions on each others countries for resources by painting the enemy as “enemies of our religions”
and all this heaven talk is a fake promise for a future to give your life for that authority.. nothing more.. basically telling you.. it’s okay to sacrifice yourself for us.. you’ll be in heaven similing on us
Not to mention how religions always change their interpret of verses regarding science discovery…
When a verse describes a scietific thing.. and later on it is discovered that it is the opposite.. the interpretation suddenly changes into “well it was only a metaphor” or a different excuse
This is to keep all religions on different parts staying active and going for the world leaders to use for their advantage when they like
The Christianity that was put on the table was Roman Christianity. They are the ones who brought Christmas and Easter. It's not even in the bible yet the world goes for it so you are not wrong. Christianity has been changing because man has been changing the doctrine, just like you said. I'm happy that you pointed that out because Jesus said himself he does not change.
The Christianity that was put on the table was Roman Christianity. They are the ones who brought Christmas and Easter. It's not even in the bible yet the world goes for it so you are not wrong. Christianity has been changing because man has been changing the doctrine, just like you said. I'm happy that you pointed that out because Jesus said himself he does not change.
As Muslims we honestly are bewildered that our most Christian counterparts celebrate things that pertain to pagan rituals like that of Saint Nicholas for Christmas and Halloween by some other demonic practice for spirits of the dead..
and somehow Chrtsmas is linked to Jesus's birth in winter..which is baffling coz we believe that it was summer when Mary (May allah be pleased with her) gave birth to Jesus (AS).
I’m at a point where I’m starting to believe that everything that was taught to us about religions is to stop us from connecting with other countries with different beliefs “fearing to be corrupted by their thoughts” in order for our leaders to justify their wars & invasions on each others countries for resources by painting the enemy as “enemies of our religions”
As Muslims we honestly are bewildered that our most Christian counterparts celebrate things that pertain to pagan rituals like that of Saint Nicholas for Christmas and Halloween by some other demonic practice for spirits of the dead..
and somehow Chrtsmas is linked to Jesus's birth in winter..which is baffling coz we believe that it was summer when Mary (May allah be pleased with her) gave birth to Jesus (AS).
Told my aunt who is a Christian (roman christian and she doesn't know it) that Jesus literally told us not to do Christmas, they were keeping Christmas since before Jesus was born. That holiday is for the sun God son whose name is Tammuz. I went and look into Tammuz and guess when he was born? Literally right in the bible, Christians ignore scriptures that are right in front of them and claim they serve Jesus. This is why Jesus is gonna tell some people to depart from him because its just lip service, that scripture was there for false Christians not for pimps and hustlers. I hear people say all the time that Christians are hypocrites and they are 100% right. I am doing this because I want to expose these pastors and show people what the bible is really saying. It's not hard tbh but its for people who want to know cause again I ain't here to force nothing on nobody. I didn't even tag people when I made this thread. If you really want to know why I am saying that no will go to heaven then tune in for when I post the next thread.
As Muslims we honestly are bewildered that our most Christian counterparts celebrate things that pertain to pagan rituals like that of Saint Nicholas for Christmas and Halloween by some other demonic practice for spirits of the dead..
and somehow Chrtsmas is linked to Jesus's birth in winter..which is baffling coz we believe that it was summer when Mary (May allah be pleased with her) gave birth to Jesus (AS).
This post shows that you don't have a good understanding of non-Abrahamitic religions.
As if conversion to Christianity were ever peaceful and voluntary
What's wring with people keeping their traditional customs?
This post shows that you don't have a good understanding of non-Abrahamitic religions.
As if conversion to Christianity were ever peaceful and voluntary
What's wring with people keeping their traditional customs?
you are conflating pagan rituals with the religion.. and that's considered blasphemous given you are 2 timing the religion by practicing rituals of other religions or even satanic rituals involving myth about spirits visiting homes blah blah.. all derived from external material from the religion..
your premises contradicts its self fundamentally.. so much for me not understanding Abrahamic religions
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