General & Others Out of rooftop 5 who's your least favorite?

[ShishioIsBack]

Yeah, I know Kidd is also not great. But he is doing his own thing, i.e. targets a yonko -> gets wrecked -> repeat. Law is a different story. We all know he is Luffy's underling. I cringe hard every time he acts like Luffy's rival these days. For example, when he also decided to jump off the waterfall or when he told strawhats they won't be friends in the future. This character has overstayed his welcome.

Yeah Law has been pretty directionless since Dressrosa Ended.
Majority of Wano pre Roof top he had no presence while Luffy and Zoro were exploring different aspects of Wano and Kinnemon pretty much took the role of lead strategist, Law was just barely there.

Then he just out of no where jumps on roof top and Oda had no build up for him prior besides long while ago telling us Oh its Law's plan.
Then exactly what was his conflict with Big Mom? In what way did Oda building up Law doing work against Big Mom?

Take out "cool" repeated attacks like puncture ville, shock ville that barely make sense, exactly how is Law even remotely as good as Zoro as far as Wano is conerned?

@ZenZu
@Monkey D Theories

And all other Law supporters?
Law's character started and ended at Dressrosa. He is just a directionless ink now and basically host of OP OP no mi and that's where his character ends.

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Why don't you guys just accept the obvious, as trash as One Piece is, Zoro is the only good thing left in him even if he isn't as good as he used to be. He is the only one who consistently delivers.

Roof Top Chapters were the most loved by fandom and its because Zoro dominatied.

Zoro vs King is widely considered best fight of Wano and Zoro was in it.
People were appreciating how Oda handled Zoro taking out Apoo and getting rid of Queen virus.

His fight with Kamazou, his conflict at Yasui's execution, him taming Enma for the first time, him starting out Wano with the bang was all well received.

Law in Wano is literally a no body who got shoe horned in Big Mom fight to be nothing but OP OP no mi's host, his devil fruit dominates his character and that's all.

Do you guys not pick Zoro just to be different and not accept the obvious answer?

 

[Mugiwara56]

The one i don't is Kid, I found him contradictory to Wano many times, and I find his development not good, and he didn't live up to his hype

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

Yeah Law has been pretty directionless since Dressrosa Ended.

Yeah, his aim in life was to get rid of Doffy. Once Doffy got defeated, Lolda didn't know what to do with his character anymore. Thats why he created this new bs that Law wants to know about history.

Then exactly what was his conflict with Big Mom? In what way did Oda building up Law doing work against Big Mom?

The entire Kidd-Law vs Big Mom felt like a filler. Big Mom had no business at Wano.

@ZenZu
@Monkey D Theories

And all other Law supporters?
Law's character started and ended at Dressrosa. He is just a directionless ink now and basically host of OP OP no mi and that's where his character ends

Don't call Zenzu, Film Red caused a lot of stress in that man's life 😂 He won't be able to handle Law slander now

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Yeah, his aim in life was to get rid of Doffy. Once Doffy got defeated, Lolda didn't know what to do with his character anymore. Thats why he created this new bs that Law wants to know about history.



The entire Kidd-Law vs Big Mom felt like a filler. Big Mom had no business at Wano.


Don't call Zenzu, Film Red caused a lot of stress in that man's life 😂 He won't be able to handle Law slander now

What I am saying is why do people have hard time acknowledging Zoro is the only character Oda is handling right?

Is it just desire to go against the obvious?

 

[ZenZu]

Don't call Zenzu, Film Red caused a lot of stress in that man's life 😂 He won't be able to handle Law slander now

Lmao no you have to really really hate Law to vote him over some of the characters here, a lot of that has to stem from him taking the time and shine from Zoro and the rest of the straw hats post timeskip. So when I see Law slander I can't even remotely care for it, very few people think Law is the worst character from the R5, he's the least disliked of the bunch, must be doing something right.

I have no problem with what Law wants either, he's genuinely interested in what the "D" in his name means. Absolutely nothing wrong with trying to find out what your fate is tied to, and the history of the world. It'd actually be much weirder for Law to be indifferent to it given his character.

The issue is Oda's attachment to this and the PK throne, he makes it seem like it needs to be tied into it or something with this rivalry situation. He needs to let Law be his own man, but this is not a Law issue, it's an Oda issue he drides Luffy far far too much especially post timeskip.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Lmao no you have to really really hate Law to vote him over some of the characters here, a lot of that has to stem from him taking the time and shine from Zoro and the rest of the straw hats post timeskip. So when I see Law slander I can't even remotely care for it, very few people think Law is the worst character from the R5, he's the least disliked of the bunch, must be doing something right.

I have no problem with what Law wants either, he's genuinely interested in what the "D" in his name means. Absolutely nothing wrong with trying to find out what your fate is tied to, and the history of the world. It'd actually be much weirder for Law to be indifferent to it given his character.

The issue is Oda's attachment to this and the PK throne, he makes it seem like it needs to be tied into it or something with this rivalry of theirs.

When did he take shine from Zoro lmao?
I'd rather take Zoro and what he has done in Wano over Law any day of the week

 

[ZenZu]

When did he take shine from Zoro lmao?
I'd rather take Zoro and what he has done in Wano over Law any day of the week

Law had a greater presence in every single arc that Zoro and him have shared. Every single one. Wano is debatable but the conclusion favoured Law more than Zoro in importance. It is what it is, if you can't see it you can't see it. I'm not turning this into Zoro vs Law.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Law had a greater presence in every single arc that Zoro and him have shared. Every single one. It is what it is, if you can't see it you can't see it. I'm not turning this into Zoro vs Law.

Zoro has at least 5 times the panel time than Law in Wano.
How does he have bigger presence lmao?
Compare Zoro and Law at the roof top and before that
Zoro got to scar the most relevant antagonist of wano
Law got to do the same to dollar tree side character
And Zoro has done more than just scarring Kaido

 

[ZenZu]

Zoro has at least 5 times the panel time than Law in Wano.
How does he have bigger presence lmao?
Compare Zoro and Law at the roof top and before that
Zoro got to scar the most relevant antagonist of wano
Law got to do the same to dollar tree side character
And Zoro has done more than just scarring Kaido

At the end of the day, nobody on Wano even knows who Zoro ever was or what he did past being the magistrate killer. That's what I'm trying to tell you, Law is already spoken of like some legend. And that's especially sad given what Zoro should have meant in Wano with direct links to Ryuma.

I think given what you said it's debatable, Law was in the background for 2 and a half acts. But what I said is true, the arcs conclusion did not favour Zoro in importance.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

At the end of the day, nobody on Wano even knows who Zoro ever was or what he did past being the magistrate killer. That's what I'm trying to tell you, Law is already spoken of like some legend. And that's especially sad given what Zoro should have meant in Wano with direct links to Ryuma.

I think given what you said it's debatable, Law was in the background for 2 and a half acts. But what I said is true, the arcs conclusion did not favour Zoro in importance.

Umm idk where this legend shit is coming from
Oda slapped him with 3 billion bounty after putting him in what could be the worst fight in One Piece and I am supposed to take that over what Zoro has done in the entirety of wano.

Law is a cartoon, his accomplishments don't mean shit especially when its mostly even in universe based on agenda.

When comparing the two characters just look at the way audience is reacting to Zoros moments this arc compared to Law's

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

a lot of that has to stem from him taking the time and shine from Zoro and the rest of the straw hats post timeskip.

Why do you think nobody likes post timeskip? Law is a big reason for One Piece turning into One Piss.

 

[ZenZu]

Why do you think nobody likes post timeskip? Law is a big reason for One Piece turning into One Piss.

Lmfao no that's like saying Doflamingo is the reason Dressrosa is a trash arc (which it is). Post skip One Piece has a slew of problems.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Why do you think nobody likes post timeskip? Law is a big reason for One Piece turning into One Piss.

No that's Luffy
Luffys unbearable presence over other characters is the reason

I don't want Zoro in position Law was, zoro already did much bigger things

But Zoro should have been the to cut off fire form giant dragon Kaido and in turn beheading him in front of wano citizens
@ZenZu

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Lmfao no that's like saying Doflamingo is the reason Dressrosa is a trash arc (which it is). Post skip One Piece has a slew of problems.

Luffy is biggest of them

 

[ZenZu]

No that's Luffy
Luffys unbearable presence over other characters is the reason

I don't want Zoro in position Law was, zoro already did much bigger things

But Zoro should have been the to cut off fire form giant dragon Kaido and in turn beheading him in front of wano citizens
@ZenZu

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Luffy is biggest of them

I agree with this. Oda's constant protecting and favouritism of Luffy > all has made post timeskip One Piece pretty unbearable. The Luffy driding got out of hand.

I used to love Luffy, now I celebrate when someone other than Luffy is allowed to have a panel of importance. ZKK would have been dope but not on Oda's watch.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

I agree with this. Oda's constant protecting and favouritism of Luffy > all has made post timeskip One Piece pretty unbearable. The Luffy driding got out of hand.

I used to love Luffy, now I celebrate when someone other than Luffy is allowed to have a panel of importance. ZKK would have been dope but not on Oda's watch.

Oda was genuinely afraid of how badly Zoro would demolish Luffy in popularity once the world wide popularity poll came out

Oda has his hand on the trigger with having Ryuma and Ushimaru made identical to Zoro, Ryuma plot line, Monster samurai and all the other shit.

But he knew if he went and did all that after Zoro
-Scarred Kaido
-One shot three supernovas
-AdvCoC
-Hakai
-one shotting king
Zoro would just be bigger deal than main character.

He can't have that. There is really no other reason

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

Lmfao no that's like saying Doflamingo is the reason Dressrosa is a trash arc (which it is).

Point 1: Dont you always say Law got featured more than any other character during post-ts except Luffy?
Point 2: Everyone thinks the quality of One Piece has gone down significantly during post-ts
- You could clearly correlate those two

No that's Luffy
Luffys unbearable presence over other characters is the reason

I don't want Zoro in position Law was, zoro already did much bigger things

But Zoro should have been the to cut off fire form giant dragon Kaido and in turn beheading him in front of wano citizens
@ZenZu

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Luffy is biggest of them

Luffy has always been annoying with his goofy personality. But Law ate the panel time of every other strawhats

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Law and Kidd how ever were at such low point before Big Mom fight that Oda really had to pull all the bullshit out of his ass to keep even few fans they had left

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Point 1: Dont you always say Law got featured more than any other character during post-ts except Luffy?
Point 2: Everyone thinks the quality of One Piece has gone down significantly during post-ts
- You could clearly correlate those two

Law only had presence over Zoro in Dressrosa and pink Hazard

Zoro shat all over Law in wano

 

[ZenZu]

Point 1: Dont you always say Law got featured more than any other character during post-ts except Luffy?
Point 2: Everyone thinks the quality of One Piece has gone down significantly during post-ts
- You could clearly correlate those two


Luffy has always been annoying with his goofy personality. But Law ate the panel time of every other strawhats

Again no. Your logic would dictate Doflamingo is a shitty arc antagonist because he has one of the shittiest arcs in One Piece.

That is a post timeskip writing issue overall, not a Doflamingo issue. Same deal with Law. It's not about panel time, but quality panel time. Law has tons of it, characters like Scabbards, tontatta, Tama etc. are eating panels for no reason. That's not the case with Law, he has given us some of the best moments of post skip period.

And it looks like I hit the nail right on the head lmfao when I said most of the hate stems from stealing shine. Which is why the few people who hate on Law don't bother me.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Again no. Your logic would dictate Doflamingo is a shitty arc antagonist because he has one of the shittiest arcs in One Piece.

That is a post timeskip writing issue overall, not a Doflamingo issue. Same deal with Law. It's not about panel time, but quality panel time. Law has tons of it, characters like Scabbards, tontatta, Tama etc. are eating panels for no reason. That's not the case with Law, he has given us some of the best moments of post skip period.

And it looks like I hit the nail right on the head lmfao when I said most of the hate stems from stealing shine. Which is why the few people who hate on Law don't bother me.

See his point though
Law isn't all that, he's been pretty irrelevant since Dressrosa

But Oda has been sidelining every straw hat besides Zoro to a certain degree for other characters

Whether they are
-Scabbards
-Momonosuke
-Oden
-Yamato
-Arc princesses
-Sabo

And bunch of other dipshits

Most One Piece fans are fans of straw hats and when you sideline them over dollar tree side character (Law being one of them) people are gonna like the show less

 

[ZenZu]

See his point though
Law isn't all that, he's been pretty irrelevant since Dressrosa

And he hasn't eaten up panel time since then at all.