Questions & Mysteries Straw Hat Vice Captain

[Finalbeta]

This should be included in every single post any of us make on this website :smithnie:

Headcanonical material is sometimes even more interesting than factual btw

 

[bennbeckman]

Headcanonical material is sometimes even more interesting than factual btw

Headcanon is always more interesting especially those with perspectives from LF and that dont make sense and claim they make sense

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Headcanonical material is sometimes even more interesting than factual btw

And endlessly debatable :dogood:

 

[Finalbeta]

And endlessly debatable :dogood:

Infinite loop my friend

 

[Robin swan]

Its zoro and always gonna be zoro. Jinbe is cool and all but he's not gonna come in the 4th quarter and be VC. That's been zoro since like chapter 4.

 

[Finalbeta]

Its zoro and always gonna be zoro. Jinbe is cool and all but he's not gonna come in the 4th quarter and be VC. That's been zoro since like chapter 4.

I really am curious to read Jinbe's VC update

 

[HA001]

Its zoro

 

[True God Moe]

Let the hurt go. Zoro is the vice captain on the crew.

Nah, just Jimbei now. I know it hurts, but like you guys hype it, panels position matter no matter randomness. Zoro is out of VC spot and M3 together. Just how it is .

 

[True God Moe]

"You Guys" you are referring to and myself have differing opinions, I said and it's clear as the blue sky Zoro has been referred to as the vice captain by OP Pirates. I myself believe he has acted like a vice captain more than anyone else has in the story. His title given by the writers is Combatant, swordsman, etc. NO ONE IS THE OFFICIAL VICE CAPTAIN. Zoro being 3rd in the panel doesnt mean anything the same goes with Sanji being 5th in the panel.

Everyone in this forum has their own headcanon including myself

Luffy push Jimbei to take leadership as shown before and make sense with Jimbei qualities compare to Zoro. So again do you all believe panels or do not? How do you see them then? If you say you think non-canon, then M3 stay as they are as Luffy, Sanji, and Zoro cause you can't pick and choose what you want when it effects everything. So you agree your posse were wrong on their end to agree on accepting spoilers over reading chapter as just saying what you all said on it 'being like that'.

 

[True God Moe]

There we saw Zoro will overrule when he has to. He gets on himself for occasionally for letting his guard down, but he's always first line in the best interests of the crew. Even when he had nothing against Robin for example, he refused to be won over even though he came to her aid without hesitation.

Hitting someone to knock them out when they aren't looking and focus on a threat doesn't' show leadership as it show forcing outcome to your liking. That is not good point to show Zoro has good leadership as much as Sanji wasn't listening to him and wouldn't back down if he try talking or do that when he was looking.

 

[True God Moe]

Its zoro and always gonna be zoro. Jinbe is cool and all but he's not gonna come in the 4th quarter and be VC. That's been zoro since like chapter 4.

Then M3 stay as they are if your not believing 'positioning panels' Zoro-Fans hype saying it had 'meaning'.

 

[Fn Lucci]

Hitting someone to knock them out when they aren't looking and focus on a threat doesn't' show leadership as it show forcing outcome to your liking. That is not good point to show Zoro has good leadership as much as Sanji wasn't listening to him and wouldn't back down if he try talking or do that when he was looking.

1. They're pirates. No crying about getting hit with your guard down

2. Sanji not only respected it, he pulled rank just the same in saving them from Capone

 

[stealthblack]

Anyone that îs not stupid enough to get lost on a straight line

 

[True God Moe]

1. They're pirates. No crying about getting hit with your guard down

2. Sanji not only respected it, he pulled rank just the same in saving them from Capone

You not supposed to worried about your own crewmate attacking you when your focus on a enemy, not random enemy going after Sanji.

2. He didn't like it, he was force down by Zoro from cheap shot and would really give his life same like him.

 

[BossYimz]

Am honestly not sure why this is a debate to begin with.

Barto is the embodiment of a Luffy fanboy and SH fanboy in the OPverse and even to him it is clear that Zoro is the vice captain. He didnt say Sanji, Nami, Usopp or anyone else. He said Zoro.
Mind you, Barto isnt a Zoro fanboy primarily, he is a Luffy fanboy first then Sh fanboy afterwards. He fanboys on all of the SH.

It is Oda who made Barto say those word. It is quite obvious what message Oda is trying to convey. Am not sure why people say Oda hasnt stated in the manga who is the vice captain when he clearly has.
If this is not enough I honestly dont know what more is needed.

 

[Finalbeta]

Am honestly not sure why this is a debate to begin with.


Barto, the biggest Luffy fanboy and SH fanboy believes Zoro to be the vice captain. He didnt say Sanji, Nami or anyone else. He said Zoro.
Mind you, Barto isnt a Zoro fanboy, he is a Luffy fanboy first then Sh fanboy afterwards. He fanboys on all of the SH. Barto is the embodiment of a Luffy fanboy amd SH fanboy in the OPverse and even to him it is clear that Zoro is the vice captain

It is Oda who made Barto say those word.
If this is not enough I honestly dont know what more is needed

Vivre Card just confirmed our strong suspicions

Honestly it was hinted so many times. Look at the parallels with Roger and Rayleigh.

 

[True God Moe]

Am honestly not sure why this is a debate to begin with.

Barto is the embodiment of a Luffy fanboy amd SH fanboy in the OPverse and even to him it is clear that Zoro is the vice captain. He didnt say Sanji, Nami or anyone else. He said Zoro.
Mind you, Barto isnt a Zoro fanboy primarily, he is a Luffy fanboy first then Sh fanboy afterwards. He fanboys on all of the SH.

It is Oda who made Barto say those word.
If this is not enough I honestly dont know what more is needed

He can always have Barto come back to say Jimbei is VC looking how cool he is or Sanji after knowing his Germa origins and more feats for him. Barto is impressionable especially he consider 'God Usopp' after all XD.

 

[BossYimz]

He can always have Barto come back to say Jimbei is VC looking how cool he is or Sanji after knowing his Germa origins and more feats for him. Barto is impressionable especially he consider 'God Usopp' after all XD.

Which wont happen.

Leaving Jimbei aside who is new to the crew, have you never wondered why noone in the entire OP verse ever confused Sanji as the captain or thought of his as right hand or vice captain? It has been over 970 chapters and it has never happened to Sanji. Matter of fact it has happened to no one other than Zoro.

Honestly Oda had no reason to make Barto say Zoro is the right hand and vice captain. He could have left it ambiguous or waited till Jimbei joined if he planned on saying Jimbei is the vice captain.

If Oda's intention was not to inform the readers that Zoro is the vice captain and right hand, why create an entire panel justto do that

Sometime we just have to accept things as is and move on. Just use deductive reasoning and look at the evidence provided and it is clear that Oda's intention is fofor the readerand also OPverse characters to view Zoro as vice captain and right hand man.

Sanji was stated to be the advisor for the crew in the vivrecard. Not sure why people are downplaying this and forcing issues to try and claim he is vicecaptain. As an advisor he is tasked to advise which we have seen him do multiple times in the series and he does this well. However, vice captain is Zoro's job which he does well

 

[True God Moe]

Which wont happen.

Leaving Jimbei aside who is new to the crew, have you never wondered why noone in the entire OP verse ever confused Sanji as the captain or thought of his as right hand or vice captain? It has been over 970 chapters and it has never happened to Sanji. Matter of fact it has happened to no one other than Zoro.

Honestly Oda had no reason to make Barto say Zoro is the right hand and vice captain. He could have left it ambiguous or waited till Jimbei joined if he planned on saying Jimbei is the vice captain.

If Oda's intention was not to inform the readers that Zoro is the vice captain and right hand, why create an entire panel justto do that

Sometime we just have to accept things as is and move on.

Sanji was stated to be the advisor for the crew in the vivrecard. Not sure why people are downplaying this and forcing issues to try and claim he is vicecaptain. As an advisor he is tasked to advise which we have seen him do multiple times in the series. However, vice captain is Zoro's job which he does

Is Databook really legit since I been hearing mixed opinions of others not taking it seriously and those who see it canon, so which is right angle as I heard inconsistency over it.

 

[BossYimz]

Is Databook really legit since I been hearing mixed opinions of others not taking it seriously and those who see it canon, so which is right angle as I heard inconsistency over it.

Ok.
Even if you don't want to take it seriously and dont see it as canon.

We still have clear evidence in the manga were Zoro is outright stated to be the right hand and vice captain.

Am not sure what more is needed. Does Oda need to make an intro box that spells out Zoro is vice captain for you to believe or does someone in the SH need to call him vice captain for you to believe.
This also doesnt always work as we have Mihawk for example who was has into box stating he is the wss, there are multiple people in the verse stating he is wss but people still dont believe this.

@True God Moe, what can Oda do that he hasn't done already that will convince you Zoro is vice captain?