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So, we have Prof. He gets included a lot because his claim is pretty eh (he lied about certain elements, walked them back, and then tried to say that the lie he used proves why he can't be X despite his walking it back literally debunking this assertion of his). Nothing I could pull up in thread could prove him Town. I'm only going to establish why he's not in the immediate PoE.

As a hostile Indie, his best bet would be to let town do whatever. He could have just voted for JoJo without much regard purely out of concern for his own safety, and he does lose some points for keeping his vote there despite providing two reasons why he thinks he could be Town, but even coming to those two points doesn't make a lot of sense for Indie Prof. He gains little from defending JoJo. If he keeps his vote there, then he's not going to deter the Mafia from burning abilities on him, even if he did only do it halfway. He's already killed Rej. It also doesn't make a great deal of sense for him to lie about his restriction on his kill, if he was going to use it for cred he could have just claimed it outright or said nothing. In this case, the TPS wouldn't result in Prof dying if he loses, but Rej gets to survive, but giving a hostile Indie a restricted kill is already pretty difficult to reconcile. We also have Waifubro's role, who was fairly Scum-sided with his extra kill and motivation to kill town and then remove mafia from his wincon.

The points against Prof are that his 50% claim appears to be extremely convenient given the timing, and his role doesn't really fit alongside any of the flipped town roles. In any case, it's enough to push him out of consideration for tomorrow.
 

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Well T-Pein is my top 1 priority in the list i posted ( i didn't posted them in a specific order )

Prof top 2 and u top 3 out of curiosity

I don't have anything on Charlie tbh :/
Yeah, no, reading my post and doubling down on your reads without responding to what I'm saying isn't really good enough. You're going to have to focus here, or just follow my lead and if we haven't won within two cycles you're free to kill me yourself.
 

Ratchet

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Charlie - Not a great deal I can say for Charlie. He's very isolated in the thread, and doesn't appear to have a great deal of connection with any of the flipped scum aside from maybe Broki. He's always next up after T-Pein, but his claim is pretty thorough, and he is playing with something of a chip on his shoulder, so it's enough to take him to the side for now.
 

Ratchet

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T-Pein - Pein is most obvious next man up, for the following.

*T-Pein must have been in communication with Blue.
*Blue knew the identities of the remaining Scum

The first point is fairly easy to deduce. He probably talked to him via Blue's ability, and then from there Blue managed to glean the identities of the remaining Mafia. It's somewhat out of character for Town T-Pein to work with an Indie to that extent, especially when we can assume Blue was killing some townies as well. With T-Pein's claim debunked, and with it, his main course of defence, there is also no real know information around him, which fits perfectly of the current picture with what we assume is one Scum left. With all this considered, T-Pein basically has to go tomorrow, and if he flips Town or the game doesn't end, then we can revisit the others mentioned.

Not included in the PoE -

*Myself - I essentially have two scum pelts to my name here, thanks to my vote on JoJo.

Worst - I find it unlikely to think he plays a game like this as Scum, and he has a pelt to his name too. Possibly culted, which would explain his reduced aggro and presence as the game has warned, but given we only have one listed Culted player the chances are fairly slim.

Juliet - Tonally reads as Town, and her investigation was almost certainly considered a threat to Scum. She's also mostly absorbed in her own world, emblematic of Town Juliet.

ANE/Naomi - Masons. Neither strike me as the kind of player bold enough to fake claim this, one might be recruited but that's tinfoil for later in the game. Probably just town.

Sallu - Cop results check out, seems willing to engage and his reaction to possibly being lynched did not appear to be faked either. If the above three are resolved and we don't have the game solved, Sallu goes up next, but only really by default.

Yoru - Not much to say, he hasn't been very active lately either. He, like Sallu, will be up next, but otherwise seems to be fine.
 

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In any case, it is absolutely imperative I give myself at least 7-8 hours sleep so my body has a chance to fight off my current ailments, lest I fancy an extended stay in the hospital, so I will be taking my leave for now, and it's unlikely I'll have much more to say after this.

Worst, you can vacate the Town Leader title now. I will handle it from here.
 

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Yeah, no, reading my post and doubling down on your reads without responding to what I'm saying isn't really good enough. You're going to have to focus here, or just follow my lead and if we haven't won within two cycles you're free to kill me yourself.
Even if they might not be the strongest reasons, i won't follow the lead of my top 3 scum read, but i'll take your opinions in consideration ofc.....


Charlie - Not a great deal I can say for Charlie. He's very isolated in the thread, and doesn't appear to have a great deal of connection with any of the flipped scum aside from maybe Broki. He's always next up after T-Pein, but his claim is pretty thorough, and he is playing with something of a chip on his shoulder, so it's enough to take him to the side for now.
From my previous experiences with Charlie he mostly just asks questions when he's scum, posting a lot but not really providing much while it seems here like he's trying to give some infos, he's still pretty much null for me but i don't think he's scum :/


T-Pein - Pein is most obvious next man up, for the following.

*T-Pein must have been in communication with Blue.
*Blue knew the identities of the remaining Scum

The first point is fairly easy to deduce. He probably talked to him via Blue's ability, and then from there Blue managed to glean the identities of the remaining Mafia. It's somewhat out of character for Town T-Pein to work with an Indie to that extent, especially when we can assume Blue was killing some townies as well. With T-Pein's claim debunked, and with it, his main course of defence, there is also no real know information around him, which fits perfectly of the current picture with what we assume is one Scum left. With all this considered, T-Pein basically has to go tomorrow, and if he flips Town or the game doesn't end, then we can revisit the others mentioned.
Blue asked him something quite risky which was claiming for him in exchange of infos ( hopefully about Mafia lol ) he should have more infos than a cop rn so if he's not dead tomorrow he's the last one



*Myself - I essentially have two scum pelts to my name here, thanks to my vote on JoJo.
Yeah...i give you that......


Worst - I find it unlikely to think he plays a game like this as Scum, and he has a pelt to his name too. Possibly culted, which would explain his reduced aggro and presence as the game has warned, but given we only have one listed Culted player the chances are fairly slim.
I "dropped in aggro" if u could call it that way cuz i went back to work so i can barely check this during the day :)

I guess i agree with the rest......

Worst, you can vacate the Town Leader title now. I will handle it from here.
Yeah........not a chance
 

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There is also something i have to say but i'm not sure if it'll help more scum than town......

I've slept on it and i've decided to say it cuz maybe someone can help.....if not i guess it's on me :D


But basically u remember that time when i was lying about dying next cycle ? And i've told to Ekko that i lied about that so scum wouldn't attack me ? Well that was also a lie...i am indeed dying next cycle ( this time for real real )

Basically this thing :



is going to shred me into pieces, and send me to the valhalla if i don't kill the one who attempted to kill me which i assume is neither Broki or Jojo since they died and the effect is still here......

I'm not sure if someone has a protection of some sort so just letting you guys know
 

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Also check if instead of " protect the target " it says something like " kill " or " backstab the arget so i could become the new town leader and lead the town to ruination " in that case u should not use it!
 

Ratchet

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Also check if instead of " protect the target " it says something like " kill " or " backstab the arget so i could become the new town leader and lead the town to ruination " in that case u should not use it!
The move is literally called Protect.

In any case, I'm retiring you myself. Consider this a "retire or get fired" proposition, if it helps.
 

Ratchet

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U're not my strongest scum read but looking at the things brought up u're no longer one of my strongest town reads either so yeah i'll listen to your opinions but won't blindly follow your lead not a chance.....
I'm not asking for you blindly follow me, I'm expecting that if you disagree with the reasoning I'm putting forth, that you actually establish why, and don't just double down in ignorance of my points.
 

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I'm not asking for you blindly follow me, I'm expecting that if you disagree with the reasoning I'm putting forth, that you actually establish why, and don't just double down in ignorance of my points.
What are u talking about ? I've said i agree with your reads u're just not becoming the town leader untill i'm alive.....
 
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