Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

[Erkan12]

Mihawk straight up rejects the yonko title .

''Straight up'' ???

That happens in the end, at the beginning Mihawk is angry Mihawk gives up after realizing none of them getting it by killing Buggy

 

[KageFumi]

Romance Dawn trio, the trigger of One Piece. All with CoC. Absolutely win!.

 

[ThunderSupernova]

Mihawk = Saint Shanks
Just like Whitebeard = Roger

One has the WSS/WSM title, the other is more or less his equal but doesn't seek the title
One is a Yonko/the Pirate King, the other could achieve that but doesn't seek it

Again, we were already said that

https://i.ibb.co/N994nF9/Saint Shanks-mihawk-rivals.png

People denied in denial back then
Hope it's understood now...

 

[Rootbeer]

THE DEBATE IS OVER , MIHAWK > Saint Shanks

MIHAWK IS TOP 1 , GOAT

Not really..

 

[SkySanji]

Mihawk fans now trying their hardest to conflate swordsmanship with haki, as if they aren't mutually exclusive

 

[AkainuTheGrimReaper]

So the everyone is crazy because one marine guy say mihawk is stronger than Saint Shanks

 

[Shanal]

''Straight up'' ???

That happens in the end, at the beginning Mihawk and Crocodile wants to be a Yonko Mihawk gives up after realizing none of them getting it by killing Buggy

He literally says he's giving up because they can use Buggy as bait lol

 

[shodai_kitetsu]

Just wanna flex this

So the guy who painted his sword black stronger than they guy who haki master
Imagine if mihawk learn haki instead painting his blade black that fraud one hand can do shit against mihawk

 

[Erkan12]

he can't understand that there is no rule its pirates word they will fight with all they have

''Skill'' thing created PTSDs on them

 

[Butters]

So, Nami will get coc first than Sanji?

 

[CbShadow]

Everyone don't forget, Rayleigh is also a swordsman so Mihawk is stronger than him. Even back when he was known as the marine hunter.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Nami can legit have CoC and I wouldn't be mad she has really strong will when needed.

The OG trio having it would be amazing.

 

[Manos. AsuraZoro]

Saint Shanks has probably the most powerful CoC for now, but Mihawk has a Black Blade which Saint Shanks doesn't have

Continue.
You could help the debate because you aren't a zoro fan..

 

[wys]

man cross guild would've been much greater if it wasn't for the stupid buggy gag

 

[Dragon777]

Oda is claiming that, we just take his word for it. If Oda says Mihawk is strongest swordsman in name and actuality, who are you to deny that ?

For the same reason we have to accept that Kaido is stronger than Saint Shanks even if they haven't fought to the death in the past. For the same reason Kaido is stronger than, IDK, Akainu or Aokiji even if he has never ever seen them.

Because the narrator, aka Oda, says so.

 

[Bil02]

Lol how you been dog

You were on a vacation?

 

[Zoroe]

 

[Shanal]

Mihawk fans now trying their hardest to conflate swordsmanship with haki, as if they aren't mutually exclusive

No one is doing that? Haki can be part of swordsmanship but even if it doesn't, that's kind of irrelevant to the point.

Unless you think Zoro is going to turn off his haki to fight Mihawk, the title alone puts him over Saint Shanks.

 

[kurwa]

Who says mihawk was already wss back then.

Didn't you just say that characters grow in strength?

Why is it only Saint Shanks who has grown ?

Because characters grow in different time? Zoro is soon about to beat Mihawk with just 3yr of training.

I can claim because mihawk has been stated to be the current wss

Okay and? Did they fought in 20yrs?

Zoros dream will never be fake. So you point is meaningless

You asked me and I answered. Why are you seething?

He doesnt need any arguments. Two rivals use swords as their primary weapon and only one has world's strongest swordsman title. So the burden of proof is on you.

You could previously say Saint Shanks is a yonko, Mihawk straight up rejects the yonko title and gave it to fucking Buggy in this chapter
You could say Saint Shanks has a 4 billion bounty now and only had 1.1 billion during their duels, this chapter shows Mihawk has 3.6 billion without a single person backing him up
You could say Mihawk is only better at swordsmanship. Zoro already showed you that swordsmen and hakimen are essentially the same thing. The hakiman argument wont help you much here.

Literally this chapter said that the only thing Mihawk is better than Saint Shanks at is "swordsmanship"

If Oda wanted to say that Mihawk is stronger than Saint Shanks, he could've easily just removed the "swordsmanship" part.

 

[SakazOuki]