Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

[Franosuke]

Stay strong

I don't even think it's an L, lol. It's only an L for people who were convinced Sanji was gonna stay as the no.2 bounty or that Oda would continue the bounty gag between him and Zoro

If Sanji was the only one whose bounty got snubbed, it'd be a different story

 

[Taixu]

Then why not saying Mihawk > Shanks without underling skill/swordsmanship or whatever and just directly telling us Mihawk >?

For the same reason they never say Zoro>Sanji directly, oda keeps clowns like you hopeful and generates more sales that way.

 

[Julius]

Candybros this is what a Conqueror's haki tease/hint is, in 25 years of OP Lanji doesn't have a single hint of having CoC, take notes. First Zoro and now Nami, pray that Usopp shows something in the next chapter and maybe you'll get a little love from Oda.

What do you mean bro

Giving CoC to characters far weaker than Sanji wont make CoC users look good at all, it undermines even more that power

 

[Tejas]

"if you say that swordsmanship includes haki? It doesn't"



Zoro gets coa ,coo and aCoC.....none of these is helpful for his swordmanship.

Luffy too got those. Didn't make him a better Swordsman

 

[DarkWitch]

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Then why debate.

Arguments like "he must have something " are moot.
It sounds like I can accept X can be stronger Y must have something.

I think the "he must have something" arguments come from a disconnect between Shanks's feats and his portrayal. imo, shanks outright has the best feats of any character alive. From splitting the sky with WB, stopping the war, making admirals shit their pants with CoC from miles away.
Not even kaido has feats like this. However, Shanks isn't WSSM, nor is he WSC or WSM.

Here's how I think it could be reconciled

1. Shanks is a failed Roger. He might have been PK, but sacrificed it for luffy when he gave up his arm.
2. Shanks is going to become the WSM(or close) via a massive power up, which will also change his fighting style.

In regards to #1, Shanks has the greatest haki in OP, he just doesn't have the raw strength that Kaido and Mihawk do that make them stronger. This shows that Shanks had the potential to be PK, but he gave it up for Luffy.

 

[[No Name]]

Why are you Sanji fans so fucking stupid
It’s crazy

that's what the game says, if you can't read the fucking retarded stupid around here must be you. You also never played the game or would know that the videogame threats Shanks as the strongest character LMAO.
At least play the game before talking about it, you can say it isn't valid for manga, but that haki user and swordsman are two different thing in the game is a fucking fact.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Haki

Shanks Haki > Mihawk's Haki, simple.

Zero proof of that

 

[bennbeckman]

We don't really know how they're made...

Very obvious it has to do with Haki or else it wouldn't be a black blade

 

[Taixu]

I can show you a panel of Shanks neg diffing an Admiral from a thousand miles away with casual CoC

Can you show me Mihawk even using basic CoC?

You can't show that panel, there is only GB retiring for Crew and shanks.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I don't even think it's an L, lol. It's only an L for people who were convinced Sanji was gonna stay as the no.2 bounty or that Oda would continue the bounty gag between him and Zoro

If Sanji was the only one whose bounty got snubbed, it'd be a different story

True that. And I do like that Oda is portraying it as the gag.

 

[Sir Tuna Sandwich II]

Sanji so ugly from inside and outside smh

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

So humans aren't living thing? Get out of here.

His title is above WB.

Humans are living things too.

take a chill pill you wipe
just telling you why he was called a creature instead


wb was the world strongest pirate
kaido was shortly after referred to as the same thing.

 

[Nerve74]

The Shank wanking has gotten even worse. "Yea Mihawk is the better swordsmen but that's just a hobby for Shanks. Even though he's the 2nd strongest in the world at it he only learned to be that good on the side. He's actually has a super non sword haki fighting style that he's even better in". This would be like Luffy being just bellow Zoro in terms swordsmenship in addition to having his own DF way of fighting.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Only man who out thought Crocodile
:cheers:

:cheers:

 

[SkySanji]

You can't show that panel, there is only GB retiring for Crew and shanks.

Ryokugyu shit himself and almost passed out lol

Mihawk has no haki feats

 

[Finral Roulacase]

they got they ass beat by jinbe, zoro, robin, and nami stans

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also posting with fake ebonics online is cringe

 

[Tejas]

My only complaint this chapter and a huge one is Franky being robbed

 

[Lor D. Coast]

What do you mean bro

Giving CoC to characters far weaker than Sanji wont make CoC users look good at all, it undermines even more that haki

Basic CoC is useless, that's the only kind of CoC that people with no skill can have.

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Strongest swordsman means strongest swordsman though. Shanks haki feats are great but they still don’t make him the strongest swordsman so he’s still weaker than Shanks. Zoro’s haki feats are better than Mihawk’s as well but he isn’t stronger than Mihawk either.

Mute point since every top tier swordsman had the best haki.

Rodger is a perfect example of this. Zoro besting mihawk means his haki that he inbues into his swordsmanship has to be stronger.

So regardless is stupid to say that shanks>mihawk. The best you can say is shanks=mihawk

To add its even more dumb when we came from a land of sworsman with their training being HAKI BASED. What made oden strong was haki. What enma (sword) wanted? Haki