Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

[spawn]

I had a brain aneurysm tryna understand this not gon lie to you

No worries, the line doesn't make sense in the first place.
But if you don't understand the joke behind it.

Saint Shanks is a swordsman who is less-skilled but stronger than the strongest swordsman.

- Saint Shanks is a swordsman. (Chapter implication)
- Saint Shanks is less-skilled than Mihawk. (Chapter statement but uses "skill" definition proposed by the fandom and not the manga)
- Saint Shanks is stronger than Mihawk. (Fan claim)
- Mihawk is the strongest swordsman. (One Piece statement)
These 4 things cannot all be true.

The correct statement: Saint Shanks is a swordsman who is weaker at swordsmanship than Mihawk, the strongest swordsman.
So for all intents and purposes, Mihawk is stronger than Saint Shanks.

 

[Levi]

They're literally calling Mihawk the WSS because he's better than Saint Shanks. How anyone even concludes Saint Shanks isn't a swordsman from that is beyond me.

Saint Shank bitches are tripping 🤣🤣literally called the strongest swordsman and yet somehow Saint Shanks who’s a swordsman is stronger 🤦‍♂️

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

No the ambiguity comes from the fact that Oda singled out Swordsmanship.

When something should be so cut and dry as

Mihawk = WSS
Saint Shanks =Swordsman

Therefore

Mihawk > Saint Shanks

Then there is zero reason to make it ambiguous by saying "Mihawk has better Swordsmanship", instead of flat out saying Mihawk is stronger.

Anyway, like I said, I don't care whose stronger. I just question the manner in which it was delivered.

Ok got you has long gas you know Saint Shanks is a Swordsman and Mihawk the strongest Swordsman

 

[mmd]

wb>kaido>mihawk>vista>>>>>>>>Saint Shanks
I don't want to see any opposition

 

[ConquistadoR]

He is WSM after Roger died

Nope, he was WSM even before Roger died. Read the VC.

 

[Peroroncino]

Still Mihawk vs Saint Shanks do yall ever get tired of it

Alright back to Zoro vs number 4 then

 

[Ashish]

Because he later said the world strongest swordman ,in actuality.

Read the whole spoiler .

So he says
One time skill
And one time strength
So how do you guys reached
Mihawk>Saint Shanks

 

[humanbeing2022]

so Nami having CoC was not a joke at all, the black lightning is there

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

That doesn't really make sense and you know it lol
People still called Whitebeard the strongest Pirate in the world yet he wasn't even close to that anymore.

Yes the context was he was sick. Please show me Mihawk being Sick. Ill be writing

 

[Fleet_AdmiralKoby]

Saint Shanks is a swordsman who is less-skilled but stronger than the strongest swordsman.

Laced,
Zoro either Beats Saint Shanks ass seeing how Mihawk isn't the "STRONGEST"
or Mihawk is Definitively More Powerful and we go about our regularly scheduled programming
Either way Zoro is Surpassing Both EOS

 

[Lor D. Coast]

There is an official colored manga, and the panel is Red..

And gold and purple and every other color, CoC is still black. And those lines are not haki and the lighting is clearly emanating from the middle of their weapons just like Zoro's CoC, not that it matters but that seems to be your agenda.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Still Mihawk vs Saint Shanks do yall ever get tired of it

Debates over. Mihawks stronger.

No sensible Saint Shanks fan is here arguing, all we see here are disgruntled Rupeebros & 20 iq casuals.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Did it say wb was the most skilled man? I was telling y’all the title meant swordsmanship

They don't call Mihawk the most skilled swordsman either. He's literally the strongest swordsman on paper and in actuality.

 

[Mlzz]

We know the marines and shichibukai together are supposed to equal the yonko

I just wanna know how much of that stength you think comes from the marines side compared to the shichibukais



100% = 3 great powers
50% = yonko
35%? = marines
15%? = shichibukai

50 % imu or BB 50% Sun God Luffy

 

[yvg]

Oda is damn troll. He drew black lightning bolts on Nami, so now there is no certainty that Nami's conquerors haki is a joke

 

[Boiroy]

These Lanjitards are so fucking shameless

No 4 fans sheesh

 

[Ashish]

Nope, he was WSM even before Roger died. Read the VC.

So titles means nothing then
Or you are saying WB can defeat roger

 

[soheilhazrat]

Alright back to Zoro vs number 4 then

thats pointless too, zoro is stronger. Clearly.

 

[Weeman]

Sabo probably did kill Cobra

 

[Shasha23]

Technically it's world's greatest swordsman, which encompasses both skill and strength, it means he is the overall BEST SWORDSMAN IN THE ENTIRE WORLD

since everyone here is soo anal about the kanji written on the panel then we will translate it literally, to which it translates as strongest