Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

[wys]

Stephen Paul: ''ODA NEVER SAID''

-NOW HE SAID.

"Hawkeye Mihawk"!! Also a former member of the Ouka Shichibukai and a swordsman who surpasses Emperor "Red Hair" in skill. This amount is for the strongest swordsman in the world!! Bounty: 3,590,000,000 Berries!!

Keep coping

why don't you use etenboby's translation ?

 

[sanjikun]

How does Kaido have stronger conquers than Luffy?

I think there was a scene where drunk Kaido's Haki surpasses Luffy's. But that was pre-Joyboy.

 

[OnePiss]

It makes total sense

Luffy awakening COC after getting beaten up then getting up again

Zoro awakening COC unconsciously and not knowing shit or what he’s doing

Nami awakening COC after Luffy doing something very stupid so she can beat the stupidity out of him

Thematically their COCs have all been very true to their characters

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Nami getting CoC before Sanji

What did Sanji do to deserve this?

 

[Mrbushido56]

I keep telling people, the Minks are already gone, thats the only explanation that makes sense, there is no way Wanda would miss their send off if she was still at Wano

I refuse to believe oda wouldn’t let carrot have a on screen goodbye.

 

[Monkey D Al]

You don't get 3.59 Billion bounty and epithet of "Marine chaser" by destroying fodder marines.


I wonder if Mihawk defeated an ex Admiral to earn this reputation

Akainu and Kuzan became Admirals at the same time. More or less 20 years ago and kizaru became one later. Probably when Mihawk spanked the Admiral before him

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Why cope so hard
Is it anti-Mihawk or subtle anti-agenda Zoro agenda?
nervous at the idea that EOS Zoro > Yonko?

 

[AverageNamiEnjoyer]

Why cope so hard
Is it anti-Mihawk or subtle anti-agenda Zoro agenda?
nervous at the idea that EOS Zoro > Yonko

Dark king for a reason

 

[JyThony]

Sun God Sanji :cheers:

 

[Erkan12]

why don't you use etenboby's translation ?

SWORDSMANSHIP

What do you understand from swordsmanship?

 

[Natalija]

Lee threatens kill people AGAIN? @TheAncientCenturion @Natalija

It’s an idiotic copy pasta, I think

 

[Shanal]

Isn’t Kaido said that haki was the strongest power ?
Isn’t AdCOC was the game changer ?

Isn’t willpower in general the most powerful power in One piece and shonen ?

Shanks



Looool

Yeah Shanks CoC and willpower is shown and hyped every time he is on screen

Copeeee



It’s clearly portrayal

and we are in a shonen

Shanks started Luffy dream, gave him the SH, goal to meet him again etc etc



LMFAOOOOO back,

First one who carried it was Roger the former PK, the current one is Luffy the next PK and the future strongest
And in the middle Shanks

that is great hype for him. Doesn’t mean he is the absolute strongest but mean the guy is clearly special. This is portrayal for him.



Obviously Black blade needs power, only insane swordsmen did it, only 2 on history.

So yeah if you can forge one you’re a fucking monster.

But it’s not everything. Roger, Ray, WB, Shiki, etc didn’t have one.

And Roger was peak beast without it and for now he is only using his shiny sword



Everything above + the fact that it was never said Mihawk beat Shanks during their duels. And they only stopped because Shanks lost an arm.

So Mihawk title is not related to being superior to Shanks

Shanks is part of Zoro's dream, too, lol... and he's less important than Mihawk to it

 

[wys]

SWORDSMANSHIP

What do you understand from swordsmanship?

shanks is a Swordman

 

[OnePiss]

This chapter confirms to me that Im is some sort of fighter then. Probably going to be like Uta though

 

[ConquistadoR]

Isn’t Kaido said that haki was the strongest power ?
Isn’t AdCOC was the game changer ?

Isn’t willpower in general the most powerful power in One piece and shonen ?

Shanks

Shanks has better CoC than Kaido but Kaido is stronger due to title.

Shanks has better CoC than Mihawk so Mihawk's WSS title is fraudulent.

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Looool

Yeah Shanks CoC and willpower is shown and hyped every time he is on screen

Copeeee

Mihawk's title & his status as the Strongest is hyped every time he is on screen.
But that is somehow fraudulent.

It’s clearly portrayal

and we are in a shonen

Shanks started Luffy dream, gave him the SH, goal to meet him again etc etc

It means jack shit regarding to Shanks' individual powerlevel.
You are clearly running out of credible arguments hence why you are resorting to these cookie cutter "Muh Shonen!" arguments.

Obviously Black blade needs power, only insane swordsmen did it, only 2 on history.

So yeah if you can forge one you’re a fucking monster.

But it’s not everything. Roger, Ray, WB, Shiki, etc didn’t have one.

And Roger was peak beast without it and for now he is only using his shiny sword

Mate you place Shanks over Mihawk BECAUSE HE HAD THE STRAWHAT but now Black Blade needs context.

Everything above + the fact that it was never said Mihawk beat Shanks during their duels. And they only stopped because Shanks lost an arm.

So Mihawk title is not related to being superior to Shanks

Two armed Shanks with the Strawhat's additional Haki boost couldn't beat Mihawk

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

Does Nami really have conquers haki or will it just be a gag

 

[Mrbushido56]

Oh, you mean how like Yamato was a lock for the crew from the start until she declined? Why don't we see how Oda chooses to progress his story before we pass on judgment as to whether Carrot will join or not?

Exactly

 

[RayanOO]

CoC is only real portrayal, yes, but we have no idea what Mihawk can do so it's not a portrayal over Mihawk, but just a hype for Shanks in general.

We know that Shanks CoC and presence is way more hyped than Mihawk one.

Shanks is part of Zoro's dream, too, lol... and he's less important than Mihawk to it

no lol, Shanks is out of the WSS competition. Him and Mihawk are not fighting anymore. If Mihawk doesn’t fight Shanks, Zoro doesn’t need too.

Zoro doesn’t need to be stronger than Roger, Roger wasn’t WSS.

Yet Roger was likely stronger than Mihawk. And there is a solid case for Roger to still be above Zoro EOS

 

[Seven7]

No Thanks

It makes total sense

Luffy awakening COC after getting beaten up then getting up again

Zoro awakening COC unconsciously and not knowing shit or what he’s doing

Nami awakening COC after Luffy doing something very stupid so she can beat the stupidity out of him

Thematically their COCs have all been very true to their characters

Jinbei having COC after he becomes strongest fishmen

Usopp having COC after his gag becomes true

The Conqueror's 5

 

[Shanal]

We know that Shanks CoC and presence is way more hyped than Mihawk one.

no lol, Shanks is out of the WSS competition. Him and Mihawk are not fighting anymore. If Mihawk doesn’t fight Shanks, Zoro doesn’t need too.

Zoro doesn’t need to be stronger than Roger, Roger wasn’t WSS.

Yet Roger was likely stronger than Mihawk. And there is a solid case for Roger to still be above Zoro EOS

Roger is not in the world right now. Zoro doesn't want to be strongest swordsman of all time.

Answer me. Do you think WSS Zoro will not be stronger than Shanks?

That when Zoro is WSS, Shanks as a SM will be stronger than Zoro?

Because Shanks doesn't want to be in some competition, our arguably second biggest protagonist will never achieve his dream in actuality. That Zoro only wants to be stronger than swordsmen who are willing to compete with him for WSS, but is fine with other swordsmen being able to whoop his ass even after he becomes WSS?

I hope you realize how ridiculous is the notion you're propagating here

If you're alive, and you're a swordsman, you're a part of Zoro's dream by default. It's not a competition like that of Pirate King. If Luffy wanted to be strongest man in the world, EVERY man would be his competition by default whether they want it or not.