Powers & Abilities Swordsman and haki user two different things.

That's one more person than the amount who gave a damn about WSC or WSM lol.

The title was enough to make Navy consider Mihawk more of a threat than the Yonko with the reputation of being Shanks' rival, after all.
If navy consider wss mihawk more threat than yonkou shanks then why his bounty is still below him.
 
There are hints of there being a higher tier of CoC though..
@Rootbeer What about the hints that Ashura is AdvCoC…

It’s described as a manifestation of spirit and haki is spirit energy. And Kaido does mention Zoro having cut him with CoC when he used Ashura

So if the “higher uses of CoC” are creating spirit forms that can damage people… Then doesn’t that mean Zoro already has them… And yet Zoro is a swordsman?

And even alternatively, say Ashura isn’t CoC, Zoro is somehow damaging people WITH HIS SPIRIT SOMEHOW…How is that still swordsmanship? Who then hells damages people with their literal spirit?
 
@Rootbeer What about the hints that Ashura is AdvCoC…

It’s described as a manifestation of spirit and haki is spirit energy. And Kaido does mention Zoro having cut him with CoCehen he used Ashura

So if the “higher uses of CoC” are creating spirit forms that can damage people… Then doesn’t that mean Zoro already has them… And yet Zoro is a swordsman?

And even alternatively, say Ashura isn’t CoC, Zoro is somehow damaging people WITH HIS SPIRIT SOMEHOW…How is that still swordsmanship? Who then hells damages people with their literal spirit?
I agree with u 100% it is probably the awakening equalizer
 
@Rootbeer What about the hints that Ashura is AdvCoC…

It’s described as a manifestation of spirit and haki is spirit energy. And Kaido does mention Zoro having cut him with CoC when he used Ashura

So if the “higher uses of CoC” are creating spirit forms that can damage people… Then doesn’t that mean Zoro already has them… And yet Zoro is a swordsman?

And even alternatively, say Ashura isn’t CoC, Zoro is somehow damaging people WITH HIS SPIRIT SOMEHOW…How is that still swordsmanship? Who then hells damages people with their literal spirit?
You mean the hints that Ashura is Sandai Kitetsu's power manifestation channeled by Zoro..
The condition for it is vague, but since the blade's name mean slaying Oni or something, Zoro must align aura with
the demonic sword?.. lt could be a intermediate step to achieving CoC.. And explain why Kaido mistook it for CoC..
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I’m mostly asking what you mean by “coating” vs “imbuing” in your statement
Generally speaking, CoA imbuing is the advanced level of base CoA invisible coating.. Then CoC coating is the equivalent of CoA imbuing but without the imbuing part like Sentomaru, Sandersonia, Hyougoro and such..
 
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If navy consider wss mihawk more threat than yonkou shanks then why his bounty is still below him.
Because of Shanks' own empire and history as a Yonko for almost a decade, all resources amassed, and strongest crew?

Hell, when Shanks' bounty was announced, they specifically mentioned his crew being great. Same wasn't said for others.

Mihawk IS considered a bigger threat than the leader of Cross Guilds who is said to be Shanks' rival and a Yonko, as well, though.
 
You mean the hints that Ashura is Sandai Kitetsu's power manifestation channeled by Zoro..
The condition for it is vague, but since the blade's name mean slaying Oni or something, Zoro must align aura with
the demonic sword?.. lt could be a intermediate step to achieving CoC.. And explain why Kaido mistook it for CoC..
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Generally speaking, CoA imbuing is the advanced level of base CoA invisible coating.. Then CoC coating is the equivalent of CoA imbuing but without the imbuing part like Sentomaru, Sandersonia, Hyougoro and such..
never change @Rootbeer never change :gokulaugh:
 
Let me ask you this: why did the navy specifically mention shanks' swordsmanship in comparison to mihawk if shanks isn't considered a "swordsman"? They just picked a random powerful dude to compare mihawk's swordsmanship to?

Like in the future, when sanji gets a much higher bounty, lets say 2.5 bil for example, mainly for his strength, will the navy be like: "sanji, his kicking skills are even greater than mihawk's! He deserves a 2.5 bil bounty"?
Wouldnt they just compare him to another powerful "martial artist" (lets just consider sanji a martial artist for the sake of the argument since he uses kicks)?

It seems quite clear to me that shanks is in fact known to be a swordsman to the world (and I do believe databook red outright refers to him as a "very skilled swordsman") and they decided to compare him to mihawk to hype mihawk up.

And if shanks is in the category of swordsmen despite many in the community instead calling him "not a true swordsman", doesn't that just put mihawk above him because he's the strongest of them all?

Seems more reasonable to me than to just theorize about shanks' haki skills and pretending like the sword he is using literally every time he is in a face to face confrontation is somehow holding him back ya know what I mean?
 
You fight with a blade = swordsman
You fight with a gun = sniper/gunman
You fight with your devil's fruit ability = ability user
You fight with a weapon = "that weapon" user/fighter
You fight hand-to-hand = brawler
You fight with Haki = Haki user

Marco is an ability user, Haki user, brawler, don't know if he can use a weapon

Big Mom is an ability user, Haki user, brawler, sword master, a meme

Teach is a double ability user, brawler, fought and scarred Shanks with his particular weapon, can use a gun, don't know if he's an Haki user but I hope so

I see this thing like a multivariate spectrum, representabld by a radar chart, with the single values for each variable and a final overall.

And know, let's talk about Mihawk and Shanks!

Personal opinion: In swordsmanship, Mihawk is a 98/100, Shanks is a 94/100 (atm, the 2nd best Swordsman in the world), Haki use goes like a 95/100 for Shanks (atm, the most impressive user alive) and 92/100 for Mihawk.
Overall, they're like Akainu and Aokiji, I guess that after a 10-days battle the WSS will prevail, anyway, because Red Hair didn't show other abilities to compensate his inferior swordsmanship and, notably, he has a significant physical disability in combat.



So, to put it simple for those who doesn't want to read all this shit: Haki man don't apply to anything we saw so far, it's not a category per se but just apply to any combat style.
Ps. If Mihawk or Shanks had ate Gura-Gura or Magu Magu, they would have been the "world strongest man", they're unbelievable, the references for the future Pirate King and his first mate, so enjoy these 4 characters and stop being childish, thanks
 

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You fight with a blade = swordsman
You fight with a gun = sniper/gunman
You fight with your devil's fruit ability = ability user
You fight with a weapon = "that weapon" user/fighter
You fight hand-to-hand = brawler
You fight with Haki = Haki user

Marco is an ability user, Haki user, brawler, don't know if he can use a weapon

Big Mom is an ability user, Haki user, brawler, sword master, a meme

Teach is a double ability user, brawler, fought and scarred Shanks with his particular weapon, can use a gun, don't know if he's an Haki user but I hope so

I see this thing like a multivariate spectrum, representabld by a radar chart, with the single values for each variable and a final overall.

And know, let's talk about Mihawk and Shanks!

Personal opinion: In swordsmanship, Mihawk is a 98/100, Shanks is a 94/100 (atm, the 2nd best Swordsman in the world), Haki use goes like a 95/100 for Shanks (atm, the most impressive user alive) and 92/100 for Mihawk.
Overall, they're like Akainu and Aokiji, I guess that after a 10-days battle the WSS will prevail, anyway, because Red Hair didn't show other abilities to compensate his inferior swordsmanship and, notably, he has a significant physical disability in combat.



So, to put it simple for those who doesn't want to read all this shit: Haki man don't apply to anything we saw so far, it's not a category per se but just apply to any combat style.
Ps. If Mihawk or Shanks had ate Gura-Gura or Magu Magu, they would have been the "world strongest man", they're unbelievable, the references for the future Pirate King and his first mate, so enjoy these 4 characters and stop being childish, thanks
Who fights with just haki
 
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