Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.
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Thanks man, but this thread is pretty much worthless when all that effort to prove that Zoro's dream is different from Mihawk's title is invalidated when Zoro, in his own words, considers them to be synonymous.
There's really nothing more to prove atp. The author essentially proved that Shanks is a swordsman lmao.
There's really nothing more to prove atp. The author essentially proved that Shanks is a swordsman lmao.
Wait wait wait delay the nap a bit cuz deriving alternative translations ain't cutting it
you just proved that zoro wants to be the WSS... Dai kengo is just a proficient version of Kenshi ( swordman) a level you may say in this context its Great swordman.. in Viz and self translation
Zoro never says Worlds strongest Swordsman in Baratie
he says "worlds greatest kenshi"
the Kanji for strongest, greatest and best is the same (ζεΌ·)
so Viz is being consistent and you aren't
This explain Dai Kengo and its inferior rank
i essence zoro does want to be the greatest by defeating the Greatest swordsman out there which is Mihawk
Shanks in not the greatest swordsman or the Dai-Kengo..Mihawk is Dai-Kengo someone who fought toe to toe with Shanks with superior skill..
now this explains why yall were so desperate to cover up what marines said
you just proved that zoro wants to be the WSS... Dai kengo is just a proficient version of Kenshi ( swordman) a level you may say in this context its Great swordman.. in Viz and self translation
Zoro never says Worlds strongest Swordsman in Baratie
he says "worlds greatest kenshi"
the Kanji for strongest, greatest and best is the same (ζεΌ·)
so Viz is being consistent and you aren't
This explain Dai Kengo and its inferior rank
i essence zoro does want to be the greatest by defeating the Greatest swordsman out there which is Mihawk
Shanks in not the greatest swordsman or the Dai-Kengo..Mihawk is Dai-Kengo someone who fought toe to toe with Shanks with superior skill..
now this explains why yall were so desperate to cover up what marines said
It isn't.
Worlds Greatest Swordsman comes from Sekaiichi no Daikengo. (literal translation as the #1 Daikengou)
Worlds Strongest Swordsman comes from Sekai Saikyo no Kenshi. (Worlds' Strongest Swordsman).
Zoro here says Saikyo no Kenshi. WB's & Kaido's titles are Sekai Saikyo no Otoko/Seibutsu.
Saikyo means the Strongest.
Worlds Greatest Swordsman comes from Sekaiichi no Daikengo. (literal translation as the #1 Daikengou)
Worlds Strongest Swordsman comes from Sekai Saikyo no Kenshi. (Worlds' Strongest Swordsman).
Zoro here says Saikyo no Kenshi. WB's & Kaido's titles are Sekai Saikyo no Otoko/Seibutsu.
Saikyo means the Strongest.
Wait wait wait delay the nap a bit cuz deriving alternative translations ain't cutting it
you just proved that zoro wants to be the WSS... Dai kengo is just a proficient version of Kenshi ( swordman) a level you may say in this context its Great swordman.. in Viz and self translation
Zoro never says Worlds strongest Swordsman in Baratie
he says "worlds greatest kenshi"
the Kanji for strongest, greatest and best is the same (ζεΌ·)
so Viz is being consistent and you aren't
This explain Dai Kengo and its inferior rank
i essence zoro does want to be the greatest by defeating the Greatest swordsman out there which is Mihawk
Shanks in not the greatest swordsman or the Dai-Kengo..Mihawk is Dai-Kengo someone who fought toe to toe with Shanks with superior skill..
now this explains why yall were so desperate to cover up what marines said
you just proved that zoro wants to be the WSS... Dai kengo is just a proficient version of Kenshi ( swordman) a level you may say in this context its Great swordman.. in Viz and self translation
Zoro never says Worlds strongest Swordsman in Baratie
he says "worlds greatest kenshi"
the Kanji for strongest, greatest and best is the same (ζεΌ·)
so Viz is being consistent and you aren't
This explain Dai Kengo and its inferior rank
i essence zoro does want to be the greatest by defeating the Greatest swordsman out there which is Mihawk
Shanks in not the greatest swordsman or the Dai-Kengo..Mihawk is Dai-Kengo someone who fought toe to toe with Shanks with superior skill..
now this explains why yall were so desperate to cover up what marines said
Thats the thing its your bias.. Saikyiu is synonymous to Best and greatest too.. and Viz consistently translates as greatest and you choose to twist if
there can be multiple translations but we aren't sitting there and translating
its Blatant as day that its Greatest and its been reiterated over and over
Show where did they use strongest for The title zoro's going after.
there can be multiple translations but we aren't sitting there and translating
its Blatant as day that its Greatest and its been reiterated over and over
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Show where did they use strongest for The title zoro's going after.
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Viz has translated Saikyo as Strongest in every single one of the titles given so far but this one is an exception because in some contexts Saikyo is used to refer to the Greatest right? 
Viz translates "Sekaiichi no Daikengou" as Greatest Swordmaster in the World. The word Saikyo doesn't even exists there.
It isn't.
Zoro doesn't even use the word Saikyo when he talks about how he wants to be the Greatest Swordsmaster so there is no reason for it to be Greatest here.
Viz translates "Sekaiichi no Daikengou" as Greatest Swordmaster in the World. The word Saikyo doesn't even exists there.
It isn't.
Zoro doesn't even use the word Saikyo when he talks about how he wants to be the Greatest Swordsmaster so there is no reason for it to be Greatest here.
