Questions & Mysteries Why do you just assume Sanji defeated Page One?
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If Zoro hasnt got that strength to slice he couldnt do it of course blunt force is inferior in matter of destroying steel but pre ts Luffy could knock the steel door
even if I didnt have the proof if you guys consider Sanji on par with Luffy and Zoro he should do that strength feat but he couldnt Sanji fell back after TS thats clear as day you see it also in the masters
Luffy had Rayleigh top tier, Zoro had Mihawk top tier and Sanji had a fodder like himself
So Luffy pre ts managed to topple a steel door and Sanji post ts not
Zoro gets general zombie and Sanji not
Zoro has defeat Pica a figure similar to Vergo and Sanji lost a kick duell his specialty
In fact, Sanji couldn't defeat anyone he was rather used as a measure to hype Doflamingo
he failed against Vergo, Doflamingo , Bege, Daifuku and Page One
Also Kinemon easily took an Doflamingo attack I'm sure Kinemon is even stronger than Sanji muhahahahah muhahahahaha
even if I didnt have the proof if you guys consider Sanji on par with Luffy and Zoro he should do that strength feat but he couldnt Sanji fell back after TS thats clear as day you see it also in the masters
Luffy had Rayleigh top tier, Zoro had Mihawk top tier and Sanji had a fodder like himself
So Luffy pre ts managed to topple a steel door and Sanji post ts not
Zoro gets general zombie and Sanji not
Zoro has defeat Pica a figure similar to Vergo and Sanji lost a kick duell his specialty
In fact, Sanji couldn't defeat anyone he was rather used as a measure to hype Doflamingo
he failed against Vergo, Doflamingo , Bege, Daifuku and Page One
Also Kinemon easily took an Doflamingo attack I'm sure Kinemon is even stronger than Sanji muhahahahah muhahahahaha
Killer didn't replace his entire fighting style he replaced the weapons.
He already had scythes just mechanical ones instead of the non mechanical he used in Wano.
The main difference was that with themechanical ones he could spin them whereas with the non mechanical he span his entire body. Other than that there is no difference evident.
Nami's entire fighting style chanced after getting the climatact and it change in a single fight. She went from being a cqc fighter to a long range fighter in 1 fight.
That was a bigger adjustment tha the one Killer had to go through. After that first fight she was a master at using the climatact.
Same happened with Sabo, he went from a cqc fighter to one that could do long range attacks. He adapted to all those changes on the same day he got the abilities and was even able use the new abilities to fight against an admiral.
Same with BB. The guy was able to immediately use the island crushing attack WB used on his first try.
The adjustment that Nami, BB and Sabo had to make are bigger than Killer and they achievedthem on the same day they received their abilities.
As for Killer, he has had days/weeks to adjust to the new weapons. As evident from how he fought, it was obvious he had adjusted. He was fighting even with nitoryuu Zoro without any issues.
If that was the first day Killer got those weapons and was fighting zoro I might have understood, but thiswas days/weeks after getting those weapons. If Zoro on the first day can use a scythe and perform his normal sword techniques, then I do see how Killer could not after days/weeks. Zoro also didnt show any decreased ability whilst using the scythe.
He already had scythes just mechanical ones instead of the non mechanical he used in Wano.
The main difference was that with themechanical ones he could spin them whereas with the non mechanical he span his entire body. Other than that there is no difference evident.
Nami's entire fighting style chanced after getting the climatact and it change in a single fight. She went from being a cqc fighter to a long range fighter in 1 fight.
That was a bigger adjustment tha the one Killer had to go through. After that first fight she was a master at using the climatact.
Same happened with Sabo, he went from a cqc fighter to one that could do long range attacks. He adapted to all those changes on the same day he got the abilities and was even able use the new abilities to fight against an admiral.
Same with BB. The guy was able to immediately use the island crushing attack WB used on his first try.
The adjustment that Nami, BB and Sabo had to make are bigger than Killer and they achievedthem on the same day they received their abilities.
As for Killer, he has had days/weeks to adjust to the new weapons. As evident from how he fought, it was obvious he had adjusted. He was fighting even with nitoryuu Zoro without any issues.
If that was the first day Killer got those weapons and was fighting zoro I might have understood, but thiswas days/weeks after getting those weapons. If Zoro on the first day can use a scythe and perform his normal sword techniques, then I do see how Killer could not after days/weeks. Zoro also didnt show any decreased ability whilst using the scythe.
And he had no handle, and he were at the side of his hands.
You literally ignore weapon mastery dude.
You think you can easily substitute even a small change at the level these guys are right now? Please...
See above.
And it was shown in the fight, in which 80% was comedic gold and even the finisher was not intended.
Yep, there is a difference between being completely useless with a new thing and actually mastering it.
And still fought in CQC, and when using the fruit, admitted he is not used to it.
And also admitted he can´t control it and has to get used to it.
Baseless, the usage of a new DF and a weapon change is neither comparable nor tangible, you are trying too hard.
Also nice that you forget to mention Kaku and Kalifa, both also not being able to master the ability, which was also comedic gold.
Years vs weeks, obvious which is superior.
Were Zoro´s techniques on the same level? No.
Do we know who Killer even fought in those 2 weeks? No.
All headcanon trying to follow an obvious agenda.
If i were Zoro, i would use 3 different weapons to be able to adjust to every situation, since in 2 weeks, his mastery will be as good as what he has practiced for significantly more than a decade, what´s the difference, right?
You literally ignore weapon mastery dude.
You think you can easily substitute even a small change at the level these guys are right now? Please...
See above.
And it was shown in the fight, in which 80% was comedic gold and even the finisher was not intended.
Yep, there is a difference between being completely useless with a new thing and actually mastering it.
And still fought in CQC, and when using the fruit, admitted he is not used to it.
And also admitted he can´t control it and has to get used to it.
Baseless, the usage of a new DF and a weapon change is neither comparable nor tangible, you are trying too hard.
Also nice that you forget to mention Kaku and Kalifa, both also not being able to master the ability, which was also comedic gold.
Years vs weeks, obvious which is superior.
Were Zoro´s techniques on the same level? No.
Do we know who Killer even fought in those 2 weeks? No.
All headcanon trying to follow an obvious agenda.
If i were Zoro, i would use 3 different weapons to be able to adjust to every situation, since in 2 weeks, his mastery will be as good as what he has practiced for significantly more than a decade, what´s the difference, right?
Serious question to everyone here (or at least the three or four users who evidently have NOTHING better to do, ever) - do y’all know what extenuating circumstances are??
• Zoro was caught off guard by Kamazo (really a fellow SN in disguise) and Onimaru (whose true identity/abilities weren’t known at the time) while protecting Hiyori/Toko
• Sanji was trying to protect the Wano citizens and his nakama, while also attempting to maintain his own false identity, against a Yonko-affiliated veteran
• They’re both in a foreign land, trying to operate in secret, and neither of them have ever been “finer details” kinda guys as much as people who attack first (sometimes to diminished effect) and ask questions eventually
Nobody in One Piece wins every single fight the first time (Luffy fought Crocodile multiple times before beating him and is already on attempt number two with Kaido), so WHY, for the love of God, WHY do y’all need to CONSTANTLY argue which one between Zoro and Sanji is the bigger loser?? They both were caught off guard (or using new equipment they hadn’t figured out) and both came out relatively unscathed. They’re both at full power and ready to rock in Onigashima. They’ll both be crucial in bringing down the Yonko and their crews this arc. Regardless of how oddly this arc has been written, in regards to their characters as well asoverall, there will be redemption for both of them.
Take a step back, do ten deep breaths, and FUCKING CHILL OUT FOR A MINUTE GOD DAMN
• Zoro was caught off guard by Kamazo (really a fellow SN in disguise) and Onimaru (whose true identity/abilities weren’t known at the time) while protecting Hiyori/Toko
• Sanji was trying to protect the Wano citizens and his nakama, while also attempting to maintain his own false identity, against a Yonko-affiliated veteran
• They’re both in a foreign land, trying to operate in secret, and neither of them have ever been “finer details” kinda guys as much as people who attack first (sometimes to diminished effect) and ask questions eventually
Nobody in One Piece wins every single fight the first time (Luffy fought Crocodile multiple times before beating him and is already on attempt number two with Kaido), so WHY, for the love of God, WHY do y’all need to CONSTANTLY argue which one between Zoro and Sanji is the bigger loser?? They both were caught off guard (or using new equipment they hadn’t figured out) and both came out relatively unscathed. They’re both at full power and ready to rock in Onigashima. They’ll both be crucial in bringing down the Yonko and their crews this arc. Regardless of how oddly this arc has been written, in regards to their characters as well asoverall, there will be redemption for both of them.
Take a step back, do ten deep breaths, and FUCKING CHILL OUT FOR A MINUTE GOD DAMN
the pink part would go bye bye
if it was killers main weapons
if it was killers main weapons
1 - the scythe give some greater range so Zoro would have been outside of Killer range. Killer's attack would have missed Zoro.
2 - Killers scythes can be used with two hands which generates more power. His spinning gauntlet sickle only uses one hand. If you could hit Zoro the the sickle the damage would be less because the attack would have less power.
Does it prove it though? One Piece is a world where DFs like this exist:
It's a fantasy world with magical powers. People kept saying how could Denjiro be Kyoshiro when they look nothing alike, and I pointed out it really doesn't matter. Plot points to Denjiro -> Kyoshiro and that's what matters. Details are irrelevant. Same thing here. Plot dictated that Sanji only fought Page 1 to eliminate him, and he was nowhere to be seen.
Only thing that will prove this, is Sanji himself acknowledging he didn't beat him (or him being replaced in the Tobbi Roppo).
It's a fantasy world with magical powers. People kept saying how could Denjiro be Kyoshiro when they look nothing alike, and I pointed out it really doesn't matter. Plot points to Denjiro -> Kyoshiro and that's what matters. Details are irrelevant. Same thing here. Plot dictated that Sanji only fought Page 1 to eliminate him, and he was nowhere to be seen.
Only thing that will prove this, is Sanji himself acknowledging he didn't beat him (or him being replaced in the Tobbi Roppo).
