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Aside from the obvious hiruzen wank, it seems like you're ranking them based on "peaceful times" alone.
The first literally created what would eventually be the current system. And the second made a lot of changes and improvements that's still in effect today. You can't judge those two by peaceful times in their life cause they are the reason the peaceful times came about.
Also, what did minato do? He only had a brief serving as hokage. And he sacrificed himself to keep the village safe in that time.
The first literally created what would eventually be the current system. And the second made a lot of changes and improvements that's still in effect today. You can't judge those two by peaceful times in their life cause they are the reason the peaceful times came about.
Also, what did minato do? He only had a brief serving as hokage. And he sacrificed himself to keep the village safe in that time.
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Hiruzen led the village through three, possible 4 wars and 1 natural disaster. And it kept bouncing back stronger than before. No Hokage has done as much as him.
This is the most info we're given on who Orochimaru experimented on within Konoha and yes, it is a failing of Hiruzen's.. He should've fought and killed Orochimaru but couldn't get over his personal feelings at the time. Hashirama came from an era where most of his siblings died before he was ten, Hiruzen was born and raised in Konoha—so while a failing it is, comparing it to someone who was more accustom to family and close bonds dying is a little unfair.
The Uchiha fucked themselves. Plot a coup 7 years after war ends, the Kyuubi attacks and kills your Hokage and 4 years after you barely evade war with Kumogakure? What sensible person even negotiates with the Uchiha like Hiruzen did? They're a massive risk to the village—more than Orochimaru—and Danzo forced his hand on this because if you let the Uchiha Clan attempt their coup, Konoha is being invaded within the year.
This is the most info we're given on who Orochimaru experimented on within Konoha and yes, it is a failing of Hiruzen's.. He should've fought and killed Orochimaru but couldn't get over his personal feelings at the time. Hashirama came from an era where most of his siblings died before he was ten, Hiruzen was born and raised in Konoha—so while a failing it is, comparing it to someone who was more accustom to family and close bonds dying is a little unfair.
The Uchiha fucked themselves. Plot a coup 7 years after war ends, the Kyuubi attacks and kills your Hokage and 4 years after you barely evade war with Kumogakure? What sensible person even negotiates with the Uchiha like Hiruzen did? They're a massive risk to the village—more than Orochimaru—and Danzo forced his hand on this because if you let the Uchiha Clan attempt their coup, Konoha is being invaded within the year.
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