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Aside from the obvious hiruzen wank, it seems like you're ranking them based on "peaceful times" alone.

The first literally created what would eventually be the current system. And the second made a lot of changes and improvements that's still in effect today. You can't judge those two by peaceful times in their life cause they are the reason the peaceful times came about.

Also, what did minato do? He only had a brief serving as hokage. And he sacrificed himself to keep the village safe in that time.
 
Because Kakashi and Obito have different abilities. His genjutsu has never been highlighted near as much as Obito's, which enslaved a Perfect Jinchuuriki.

Everyone there knows what the Byakugan does; Ao is stating his resume and proficiency. It's directly saying this genjutsu cannot evade his eye if even the 4th Mizukage's didn't.
Obito’s jutsu is powered up by Hashirama’s dna, this could‘ve boosted his genjutsu.
But when it comes to Itachi‘s hype with time manipulation and versatility he’s just far too skilled. Izanami too.
 

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It exists because his predecessors created the base of the village and made it almost impossible for him to fuck up (he fucked up anyway)
Hiruzen led the village through three, possible 4 wars and 1 natural disaster. And it kept bouncing back stronger than before. No Hokage has done as much as him.
He let Orochimaru get away with experimenting on members of his own village including pregnant women, unborn children, and his ninja. Enma (his summon partner) told him not to do it and he STILL let him go. This WOULD NOT have been an issue with the first 2 Hokage


This is the most info we're given on who Orochimaru experimented on within Konoha and yes, it is a failing of Hiruzen's.. He should've fought and killed Orochimaru but couldn't get over his personal feelings at the time. Hashirama came from an era where most of his siblings died before he was ten, Hiruzen was born and raised in Konoha—so while a failing it is, comparing it to someone who was more accustom to family and close bonds dying is a little unfair.

This isn't even getting into how bad he fucked up with the Uchiha/Danzo stuff
The Uchiha fucked themselves. Plot a coup 7 years after war ends, the Kyuubi attacks and kills your Hokage and 4 years after you barely evade war with Kumogakure? What sensible person even negotiates with the Uchiha like Hiruzen did? They're a massive risk to the village—more than Orochimaru—and Danzo forced his hand on this because if you let the Uchiha Clan attempt their coup, Konoha is being invaded within the year.
 
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