General & Others Unpopular Opinions?

[Bil02]

If people are allowed to wank Pica like a God then why can't I wank Vergo?

Just wait until Sanji's kick clashes with YC and Sanji doesn't break his leg which will hype Vergo to YC1

Except if Sanji was injured when he fought Vergo which most people always ignore just to downplay Sanji

So vergo will be confirmed stronger than Doffy and Law who cut vergo down will also be bumped to Yc1+..
So at the end of the day,we will have ; Vergo>Doffy>Law>Vergo..
Inconsistent right ?

 

[NeutralWatcher]

So vergo will be confirmed stronger than Doffy and Law who cut vergo down will also be bumped to Yc1+..
So at the end of the day,we will have ; Vergo>Doffy>Law>Vergo..
Inconsistent right ?

If people ignore Sanji was injured when Sanji fought Vergo then yes that will make Vergo stronger than Doffy because healthy Sanji cracked his leg against Vergo but not against YC but if people agree that Sanji was injured which is the reason Vergo looked superior, then that's not the case.

Inconsistent right if people ignore the context that Sanji's body was damaged before he fought Vergo.

 

[nik87]

If people ignore Sanji was injured when Sanji fought Vergo then yes that will make Vergo stronger than Doffy because healthy Sanji cracked his leg against Vergo but not against YC but if people agree that Sanji was injured which is the reason Vergo looked superior, then that's not the case.

Inconsistent right if people ignore the context that Sanji's body was damaged before he fought Vergo.

You dont understand why Sanji's leg cracked... Oda wanted to show that he is fragile, it has been highlighted several times even before Vergo... It justified him getting Raid Suit which strongest point is significantly increased durability.
Just because other people dont crack Sanji's bones, in no case does it mean that they are under Vergo because of that...
Healthy Sanji would have lost to Vergo either way unless you think his leg would withstand the bamboo?

 

[NeutralWatcher]

You dont understand why Sanji's leg cracked... Oda wanted to show that he is fragile, it has been highlighted several times even before Vergo... It justified him getting Raid Suit which strongest point is significantly increased durability.
Just because other people dont crack Sanji's bones, in no case does it mean that they are under Vergo because of that...
Healthy Sanji would have lost to Vergo either way unless you think his leg would withstand the bamboo?

Well if those people don't crack Sanji's bone then that means their physical strength is weaker than Vergo. Why is this so hard to understand?

How come is Sanji is fragile when:
His kick clashed with Daifuku and Sanji's leg didn't crack
His kick clashed with Judge's spear and his leg didn't crack
His kick clashed with Doflamingo and his kick didn't crack
His kick laned on Oven the most durable Charlotte, more durable than Katakuri and Sanji's kick didn't break


Yet when his kick clashed with Vergo his leg cracked. Unless Sanji was injured but this is of course get ignored for some reason.

 

[Rokayder]

Sabo is stronger than all YC1, he is low top tier at worst.

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Well if those people don't crack Sanji's bone then that means their physical strength is weaker than Vergo. Why is this so hard to understand?

How come is Sanji is fragile when:
His kick clashed with Daifuku and Sanji's leg didn't crack
His kick clashed with Judge's spear and his leg didn't crack
His kick clashed with Doflamingo and his kick didn't crack
His kick laned on Oven the most durable Charlotte, more durable than Katakuri and Sanji's kick didn't break


Yet when his kick clashed with Vergo his leg cracked. Unless Sanji was injured but this is of course get ignored for some reason.

1) Sanji actually attacked to clash, not block it, there is a huge difference
2) Means Vergo´s kick > Judge attack with side of his spear
3) Doflamingo never attacked his leg
4) Yes he kicked himself

Do you expect Sanji´s leg to crack when he attacks himself? That´s a greater disrespect than any past post of mine.

 

[nik87]

Well if those people don't crack Sanji's bone then that means their physical strength is weaker than Vergo. Why is this so hard to understand?
How come is Sanji is fragile when:
His kick clashed with Daifuku and Sanji's leg didn't crack
His kick clashed with Judge's spear and his leg didn't crack
His kick clashed with Doflamingo and his kick didn't crack
His kick laned on Oven the most durable Charlotte, more durable than Katakuri and Sanji's kick didn't break
Yet when his kick clashed with Vergo his leg cracked. Unless Sanji was injured but this is of course get ignored for some reason.

So, BM's physical strength is below Vergo-san? ...
Why give him the suit if he isnt fragile? Kick against Pacifista and Kuma has shown that he is fragile.

 

[NeutralWatcher]

So, BM's physical strength is below Vergo-san? ...
Why give him the suit if he isnt fragile? Kick against Pacifista and Kuma has shown that he is fragile.

Yes I think Vergo kick is above BM if you ignore the context that Sanji was injured when he fought Vergo.

 

[Finalbeta]

Sabo is stronger than all YC1, he is low top tier at worst.

I partially agree but Beckman is still above probably

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Luffy took the same explosion and was perfectly fine...

 

[NeutralWatcher]

1) Sanji actually attacked to clash, not block it, there is a huge difference
2) Means Vergo´s kick > Judge attack with side of his spear
3) Doflamingo never attacked his leg
4) Yes he kicked himself

Do you expect Sanji´s leg to crack when he attacks himself? That´s a greater disrespect than any past post of mine.

My main point is Vergo's leg>Sanji's leg. Do you think if Vergo blocked Sanji's kick Vergo would break his leg?

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

My main point is Vergo's leg>Sanji's leg. Do you think if Vergo blocked Sanji's kick Vergo would break his leg?

Thats true but you took weird examples to show it.
Like i said, simply blocking an attack and counterattacking to clash are two different things.
Heck, sanji as able to clash with Vergo as well.

 

[NeutralWatcher]

Thats true but you took weird examples to show it.
Like i said, simply blocking an attack and counterattacking to clash are two different things.
Heck, sanji as able to clash with Vergo as well.

Not strange. It just means Vergo generated more force than Sanji. if both vergo and Sanji generated similar force, Sanji's leg wouldn't crack when he blocked Vergo's kick.

Let's say Sanji and Vergo both clashed but Vergo generated more force, Sanji's leg will be hurt.

Doflamingo actually blocked Sanji's kick. If Doflamingo had more force, Sanji's leg would hurt when Sanji kicked Doflamingo's leg.

The same way Sanji's leg will be hurt if for example Vergo blocked Sanji's leg. Since Vergo's bone durability is above Sanji then Sanji would hurt his leg if Sanji kicked Vergo's leg. Of course this is if you ignore Sanji's injury before he fought Vergo.

 

[nik87]

Yes I think Vergo kick is above BM if you ignore the context that Sanji was injured when he fought Vergo.

Was he injured when he kicked a Pacifista and Kuma?

 

[NeutralWatcher]

Was he injured when he kicked a Pacifista and Kuma?

Wasn't Sanji injured before the fight? And that was before TS.

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Not strange. It just means Vergo generated more force than Sanji. if both vergo and Sanji generated similar force, Sanji's leg wouldn't crack when he blocked Vergo's kick.

Let's say Sanji and Vergo both clashed but Vergo generated more force, Sanji's leg will be hurt.

Doflamingo actually blocked Sanji's kick. If Doflamingo had more force, Sanji's leg would hurt when Sanji kicked Doflamingo's leg.

The same way Sanji's leg will be hurt if for example Vergo blocked Sanji's leg. Since Vergo's bone durability is above Sanji then Sanji would hurt his leg if Sanji kicked Vergo's leg. Of course this is if you ignore Sanji's injury before he fought Vergo.

Missing the point

 

[Finalbeta]

My take: CP0 will join Wano.

What do you have of it?

 

[kurwa]

Even if Zolo becomes WSS
he still will be a swordsman who was not able to cut the bird cage
forever staining WSS title

and Zolo fighting Doffy EoS seems very unlikely

 

[nik87]

Even if Zolo becomes WSS
he still will be a swordsman who was not able to cut the bird cage
forever staining WSS title

and Zolo fighting Doffy EoS seems very unlikely

We will just call him a man who can cut everything minus the Birdcage.

 

[trav]

Luffy and Zoro will both peak at mid top tier and the only reason why Luffys crew is strongest will be because its the only one with 2 top tiers in it.