Versus Battle Cosmic Garou vs Yhwach

Who wins

  • Garou blitzes and one shots

  • Yhwach out haxes


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#81
He never tried to

The word "realm" is never used iirc, I used that word for convenience, it's always either
  • Dimensions
  • Soul Society, Hueco Mundo and World of the Living
  • Worlds
You just straight up fabricated "Seireitei", I can post five or six scans right now that all say Soul Society will be destroyed if you want them

Yhwach destroys Soul Society and Soul Society contains countless stars and galaxies, it's not quite as complicated as you're pretending it to be, rather, it's extremely simple.
He did try right before getting hit with the arrow.

We saw what amounted to: messing up the landscape and not even wiping out Seritei before getting stopped.

It would take him centuries to even affect the Solar System at that pace assuming he could.

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#82
He did try right before getting hit with the arrow.

We saw what amounted to: messing up the landscape and not even wiping out Seritei before getting stopped.

It would take him centuries to even affect the Solar System at that pace assuming he could.

Subplanet level garbage verse gets bodied
He never tried to destroy a single planet or country, don't make shit up, he was trying to destroy the dimensions as a collective

Because he was stopped from achieving it, you're bordering on trolling at this point just cycling back to the same stupid arguments

Yes, that's why there was such a sense of urgency in the manga, Ichigo Aizen and Yhwach would just stand there staring at each other for years while Yhwach slowly destroys everything, that makes sense.

Keep spewing the same old shit, you clearly can't think of anything new.
 
#86
He never tried to destroy a single planet or country, don't make shit up, he was trying to destroy the dimensions as a collective
One country side at a time.

Because he was stopped from achieving it, you're bordering on trolling at this point just cycling back to the same stupid arguments
Any planet level character worth their salt wouldn’t need any more than a second to obliterate the planet


Yes, that's why there was such a sense of urgency in the manga, Ichigo Aizen and Yhwach would just stand there staring at each other for years while Yhwach slowly destroys everything, that makes sense.
He was already enveloping Seritei and threatening to kill everyone in the immediate are. That’s urgent enough.

Keep spewing the same old shit, you clearly can't think of anything new.
Gladly

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#87
One country side at a time.

Any planet level character worth their salt wouldn’t need any more than a second to obliterate the planet

He was already enveloping Seritei and threatening to kill everyone in the immediate are. That’s urgent enough.

Gladly

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All at the same time

That's not how planet level works lmao, if someone can just erase an entire planet instantly they're far higher than planet level

He couldn't pull it off in the 3/4 seconds before his powers were taken away, that's all we'll agree on
 
#88
All at the same time

That's not how planet level works lmao, if someone can just erase an entire planet instantly they're far higher than planet level

He couldn't pull it off in the 3/4 seconds before his powers were taken away, that's all we'll agree on
Exactly how it works. Either a character has the power to produce the energy needed to wipe out whatever in one hit or they don’t.

And Yhwach didn’t even manage to do more damage than a nuke could in a much shorter timeframe.

Garous stomps
 
#89
Exactly how it works. Either a character has the power to produce the energy needed to wipe out whatever in one hit or they don’t.

And Yhwach didn’t even manage to do more damage than a nuke could in a much shorter timeframe.

Garous stomps
As expected, you can't powerscale for shit, least of all when it comes to actual tiers, energy and calculations, that statement tells me very clearly that you've never even seen a calculation of a feat in your life.

Again, Yhwach never got to achieve his feat, what are you not understanding about this? He was stopped a couple seconds into performing his feat, a feat he's stated many, many, many times to be capable of achieving.

I do not care at all how much you try and lowball Yhwach by relying entirely on the visuals of him not getting to perform his feat, it's never ever outweighing the countless statements and entire point of the arc, ever.

And then you wake up
 
#90
As expected, you can't powerscale for shit, least of all when it comes to actual tiers, energy and calculations, that statement tells me very clearly that you've never even seen a calculation of a feat in your life.

Again, Yhwach never got to achieve his feat, what are you not understanding about this? He was stopped a couple seconds into performing his feat, a feat he's stated many, many, many times to be capable of achieving.

I do not care at all how much you try and lowball Yhwach by relying entirely on the visuals of him not getting to perform his feat, it's never ever outweighing the countless statements and entire point of the arc, ever.

And then you wake up
I don’t understand it perfectly. We go by the amount of energy a character is able to release. Him being stopped doesn’t change the fact that the immediate attack wasn’t even enough to wipe out Seritei or really do anything notable.

A character who eventually wipes out a whole building by destroying each wall one at a time isn’t building level

Subplanet level garbage
 
#91
I don’t understand it perfectly. We go by the amount of energy a character is able to release. Him being stopped doesn’t change the fact that the immediate attack wasn’t even enough to wipe out Seritei or really do anything notable.

Subplanet level garbage
You don't understand it even remotely lol

Yhwach being stopped before he can perform the feat isn't evidence that he can't perform it, again, that isn't wiping away the dozens upon dozens of direct statements that Soul Society will be destroyed by Yhwach nor is it wiping away the entire premise of the arc which is that Soul Society will be destroyed by Yhwach

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#92
Clearly realm is referring to kingdom, in this case, Seritei
"Clearly".

Stop being disingenuous, please provide any evidence where it only means Seiretei. Realms are only used for WoTL, SS, HM, etc.

Any planet level character worth their salt wouldn’t need any more than a second to obliterate the planet
He wasn't just destroying the "planets", he was destroying the dangai and the garganta as well. Why are you taking out context and twisting it?

One country side at a time.
The moment he started spreading his reiatsu, all the realms were affected at the same time. It wasn't one countryside at a time.
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We go by the amount of energy a character is able to release.
Ok, Yhwach is able to release enough energy to destroy the realms. End of discussion. If it took them 10 years to find and remove his remaining reiatsu, that just means the realms are bigger than planets.


To use only feats while ignoring context, narrative, etc is very faulty. By that logic, based on feats Ulquiorria > Monster Aizen, which is absurd.
 
#93
You don't understand it even remotely lol

Yhwach being stopped before he can perform the feat isn't evidence that he can't perform it, again, that isn't wiping away the dozens upon dozens of direct statements that Soul Society will be destroyed by Yhwach nor is it wiping away the entire premise of the arc which is that Soul Society will be destroyed by Yhwach

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Before? He was already doing the feat with plenty of time between releasing his attack and before the arrow got him.

Didn’t even destruct the city at ground zero of it.

Biggest joke of a universe level character in fiction


"Clearly".

Stop being disingenuous, please provide any evidence where it only means Seiretei. Realms are only used for WoTL, SS, HM, etc.
By the fact that he never even came close to accomplishing that much


He wasn't just destroying the "planets", he was destroying the dangai and the garganta as well. Why are you taking out context and twisting it?
Did nothing notable to them either



The moment he started spreading his reiatsu, all the realms were affected at the same time. It wasn't one countryside at a time.
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And nothing happened


Ok, Yhwach is able to release enough energy to destroy the realms. End of discussion. If it took them 10 years to find and remove his remaining reiatsu, that just means the realms are bigger than planets.
Not how it works. I can punch holes in the walls and destroy all the support beams in a home over time. Doesn’t mean I can wipe out a whole building at once


To use only feats while ignoring context, narrative, etc is very faulty. By that logic, based on feats Ulquiorria > Monster Aizen, which is absurd.
The narrative that uses vague contexts that Bleach tards like you love to assume the most ridiculous high ends?

Scaling is a thing hence why Yhwach is still above those characters. Problem is he has never wiped out a planet nor anyone below him

Hell, a meteor the size of a small mountain was going to end 99% of the verse had Kenpachi not busted it
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To put an end to this endless shitstorm from Clorox wankers, Othinus throughout Index New Testament had tons of hype statements surrounding her: how she was omnipotent, nothing she couldn’t do, and stated numerous times to be able to destroy the world in a verse that also consists of a universe and galaxies.

No one jumped the gun with her until NT9 where she, unlike Yhwach, actually lived up to her hype and really did destroy the entire universe instantly
 
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#94
By the fact that he never even came close to accomplishing that much
Except he was. Maybe open your eyes when you read the panels. You can see that he was close, but was stopped.

Did nothing notable to them either
Again, read the panel with your eyes open, maybe get new glasses. He was shaking the realms because they were collapsing. We see destruction in the 3 realms before he was stopped.


You can't be any more blatant in your dishonesty. You also genuinely seem to have comprehension problems which you need to get checked out.

To put an end to this endless shitstorm from Clorox wankers, Othinus throughout Index New Testament had tons of hype statements surrounding her: how she was omnipotent, nothing she couldn’t do, and stated numerous times to be able to destroy the world in a verse that also consists of a universe and galaxies.
I haven't read the Index series in a while, but I'm planning on restarting. I never got to Othinus, so I don't know how many appearances she actually made until NT9.

No one jumped the gun with her until NT9 where she, unlike Yhwach, actually lived up to her hype and really did destroy the entire universe instantly
Yhwach didn't "live up to his hype" because he was supposed to be stopped. It was supposed to be a happy ending for the main characters by defeating the final boss.

So, are you just going to ignore the plot of Bleach? Why would he have not been stopped there if the plot needed him to lose?



You're comparing two different types of stories and trying to use that to argue. The narrative dictated that Yhwach would be stopped, but that doesn't mean he wasn't capable, we clearly see that he is.

Othinus seems like she was supposed to destroy the universe and Touma apparently went through some psychological shit? I don't know, I never actually read them, so you probably know the story better.


Difference between Orthinus and Yhwach is that the plot needed one to destroy the universe and the other to be stopped.
 
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