Character Discussion Why Sanji has more self respect as a fighter than Zoro, without even having fight oriented dream?

Who has more self respect for their strength?


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In fact sanji wouldn't even be 77 mil
Dj is from judge
Rs is from judge
50 mil increase is from judge
Bump to 330 is because of judges name
Ifrit jambe and exoskeleton only possible because of judge
DJ aint from Judge. Zero proof.

Zoro being Ryuma's decendant is obvious af. Of course it wouldve been revealed if Zoro was relevant enough tho.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
DJ aint from Judge. Zero proof.

Zoro being Ryuma's decendant is obvious af. Of course it wouldve been revealed if Zoro was relevant enough tho.
Judge not being shocked about it or even acknowledging it is proof enough.

Irrelevant even if he is ryuma is one shimotsuki out of 1000s that has reached the top
Yasu is shimotsuki
Why isn't he a top tier
 
Neutralise what ? Ichiji was hit by an explosion his suit didn't stop shit
Meme hit 2 with prometheus and the suits didn't stop shit
Dude , i dont see any meaning by discussing with you . I am saying oda explained . ODA EXPALINED THIS FUCKING SANJI ABILITIES . How many times do i need to write this to understand ? Pathetic. Oda said sanji has been invisible cuz of high speed . And you are saying he used germa ability ? Lame .
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Dude , i dont see any meaning by discussing with you . I am saying oda explained . ODA EXPALINED THIS FUCKING SANJI ABILITIES . How many times do i need to write this to understand ? Pathetic. Oda said sanji has been invisible cuz of high speed . And you are saying he used germa ability ? Lame .
What the fuck are you on about. Who is talking about his speed which comes from his changed body which is because of germa
 
DJ aint from Judge. Zero proof.

Zoro being Ryuma's decendant is obvious af. Of course it wouldve been revealed if Zoro was relevant enough tho.
Zoro looking very similar to Ryuma makes it obvious af that he is Ryuma's decendent and requires 0 proof but Sanji's ability looking very similar to his brothers doesn't make it obvious af that its from Judge and requires proof?

Could have atleast posted these two things in seperate pages instead of in the same post, would have made your clear bias less obvious
 
Judge not being shocked about it or even acknowledging it is proof enough.

Irrelevant even if he is ryuma is one shimotsuki out of 1000s that has reached the top
Yasu is shimotsuki
Why isn't he a top tier
He shouldve been shocked by it since he believes Sanji is a failure. He wouldve atleast commented on the fact that Sanji final developed his genetic powrrs. Him not being shocked shows that he has no idea how that flame ability works. And lastly we already know Judge wanted Sanji to be Stealth Black and have invisibility....nothing to do with flames.

Because he didnt take advantage of the genes like Zoro did.

Zoro looking very similar to Ryuma makes it obvious af that he is Ryuma's decendent and requires 0 proof but Sanji's ability looking very similar to his brothers doesn't make it obvious af that its from Judge and requires proof?

Could have atleast posted these two things in seperate pages instead of in the same post, would have made your clear bias less obvious
Its not from Judge cause we already know what Judge intended Sanji to have....which is invisibility. Stealth Black isnt a flame user. Judge also didnt comment on DJ.....as he would do so if he finally found out that Sanji isnt a failure. Thus its obvious that its not from him. Im not saying DJ aint a genetic ability....im saying its not from Judge.

No bias. Ive debated this alot.....and everything points to DJ not being from Judge.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
He shouldve been shocked by it since he believes Sanji is a failure. He wouldve atleast commented on the fact that Sanji final developed his genetic powrrs. Him not being shocked shows that he has no idea how that flame ability works. And lastly we already know Judge wanted Sanji to be Stealth Black and have invisibility....nothing to do with flames.

Because he didnt take advantage of the genes like Zoro did.



Its not from Judge cause we already know what Judge intended Sanji to have....which is invisibility. Stealth Black isnt a flame user. Judge also didnt comment on DJ.....as he would do so if he finally found out that Sanji isnt a failure. Thus its obvious that its not from him. Im not saying DJ aint a genetic ability....im saying its not from Judge.

No bias. Ive debated this alot.....and everything points to DJ not being from Judge.
He was shocked with sanji having basic haki yet you dare try argue him not being shocked sanji can coat himself in fire is irrelevant.
Sanji is a nobody made from a bottle.
Probably judge gave him a squirt of lunarian dna too and that's where the flames come from.
 
He was shocked with sanji having basic haki yet you dare try argue him not being shocked sanji can coat himself in fire is irrelevant.
Sanji is a nobody made from a bottle.
Probably judge gave him a squirt of lunarian dna too and that's where the flames come from.
What are you even saying ? Your argument doesnt make sense....

If Sanji developed any modification Judge inteded....Judge wouldve been shocked. End of story.
 
inherited from his bloodline

Garp suspected that Luffy was born with CoC, meaning it has to be something due to their family otherwise he would not suspect it.
Same with Ace and Katakuri. Roger and BM had it so he they have it too.
Even trash like Yamato has it, meaning it has nothing to do with personality or training. It's only because she's Kaido's daughter.

Where are you getting this? Enma is the only magic sword with that magic sword requirement.
Why are you giving other swords that power too?

And even then a 10yr old Oden was wielding Enma no problem and that Oden was massively weaker than current Ashura Doji, since 18yr old Oden has a tough fight with a weak Ashura.

Oh yeah, just like in order to use that One for All quirk in MHA you just need to have a strong body, does mean he would be able to do same shit without the quirk?
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magic sword requirement ?
you mean by obsessively pulling out the user's haki ?


you realize when zoro got the sandai kitetsu it technically was also a "magic sword " because it was particularly blood thirsty almost forcing zoro to cut things without direction. Thats why they are called cursed swords mate. the least you can do is try to read some of the panels you posted .

swords are built to kill , the best swords are better at killing people than other swords; enma does that by pulling out the wielders ryou unrestrained BUT this whole argument becomes even more pointless when you realize in the king fight , zoro ended up taming the blade by releasing enough of his haki to sustain it on his own.



so the supposed "magic" enma is supposed to be doing is what zoro ended up learning to do anyway on his own.
 
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