Character Discussion Why Sanji has more self respect as a fighter than Zoro, without even having fight oriented dream?

Who has more self respect for their strength?


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- Immediately uses Daddy's tech
- Has his body permanently altered by said tech
- With no effort whatsoever

Zoro:
- uses swords with a fierce nature that have to be tamed by the users own power and will



Being able to wield Enma = a sign of power

Like literally, while Zoro had go the hard path of fighting Enma and trying to tame it with solely his own will and power while at the same time being assaulted by King, who is > Queen, Sanji just had his power ups shoved up his ass.

So as to answer the question, why Zoro doesn't use "crappy" swords, it's because he has the power to tame stronger blades. Strong blades aren't a free power up.

Imagine being so braindead that your conclusion is that Sanji is the honorable out of those two.
 
- Immediately uses Daddy's tech
- Has his body permanently altered by said tech
- With no effort whatsoever

Zoro:
- uses swords with a fierce nature that have to be tamed by the users own power and will



Being able to wield Enma = a sign of power

Like literally, while Zoro had go the hard path of fighting Enma and trying to tame it with solely his own will and power while at the same time being assaulted by King, who is > Queen, Sanji just had his power ups shoved up his ass.

So as to answer the question, why Zoro doesn't use "crappy" swords, it's because he has the power to tame stronger blades. Strong blades aren't a free power up.

Imagine being so braindead that your conclusion is that Sanji is the honorable out of those two.
So, Enma is magical swords which gives great power for user :) When zoro got Enma , you think zoro will die ? Oda just tried to survive case. There is no meaning to give Enma to zoro which is very related to Oden. On the other hand, I am okay with magical sword thing. I am not okay with enma :) as a result , all of them have special power , mytical zoan nika , enma , lineage etc etc.
 
Serious.

Sanji doesn't have strength dream, so he can get stronger by gathering 7 dragonballs, wishing to be stronger and it still wouldn't ruin his character. Yet Oda writes him as this character who doesn't want a shortcuts to strength
Which is a total contrast compared to Zoro, who seeks out every possible shortcut to getting stronger, like magic swords. Which is jarring because his character is purely just about fighting and getting stronger, yet he has no self respect to get stronger with just normal swords


Zoro gets an unfair advantage to his road to WSS compared to his other rivals (whoever they are). There are very finite number of graded swords and only lucky people can get their hands on them and gain their powers. Not to mention Zoro gets 3 of them.
So if Zoro's other rivals weren't lucky enough to get a good graded sword, they are automatically at the massive disadvantage.

What if a future challenger that challenges Zoro for his WSS title and only loses by a hair because he had a normal sword, while Zoro had 3 legendary swords? Wouldn't that show how much better swordsman who didn't use magic swords is?

And no, the "Zoro needs to train with them" excuse doesn't work because the "training" is done offscreen, showing how little it takes and in return you gain so much more power than you could ever get with training with a normal sword.

Kozaburo calls normal swords "crap"


If Zoro actually followed his character, he should throw his magic swords away and use "crap" swords to be beat Mihawk and prove that he is WSS without needing magic swords and can do it using any swords.

I have no idea how you can be a fan of Zoro and like him using magic swords. Right now, the road to WSS title is just about who gets stronger swords
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- Immediately uses Daddy's tech
- Has his body permanently altered by said tech
- With no effort whatsoever

Zoro:
- uses swords with a fierce nature that have to be tamed by the users own power and will



Being able to wield Enma = a sign of power

Like literally, while Zoro had go the hard path of fighting Enma and trying to tame it with solely his own will and power while at the same time being assaulted by King, who is > Queen, Sanji just had his power ups shoved up his ass.

So as to answer the question, why Zoro doesn't use "crappy" swords, it's because he has the power to tame stronger blades. Strong blades aren't a free power up.

Imagine being so braindead that your conclusion is that Sanji is the honorable out of those two.
Dont you read kurwa post zolo would take everything to be stronger sanji could not choose his exoskeleton but zolo choose new sword every arc. Sanji even destroyed hos power up that would make sanji>>>>>>>>>zolo by far with ifrit jambe. Now its sanji>>>>>>>zolo cause sanji destroyed his raid suit cause he is loyal asf. Zolo take the asspull drug from chopper to get healed
 
What magical power does Enma have? None. It just forces more Haki out of the user, which the user would normally restrain. So Zoro without Enma could just use excess Haki too but chose not to, while with Enma, he just let go.
You answered your question. In normal condition , zoro cannot use that much of haki power . Do not misunderstand me. Zoro unlocked haki power can be limitless. But zoro without enma can use ten percent of that . However, enma can allow to use one hundered percent directly. That means to able to use more haki , zoro dont have to make any training. He can release how much haki he want of course depends on how much he have. That make enma very special sword.
 
You answered your question. In normal condition , zoro cannot use that much of haki power
No, that's a misinterpretation. It's not that Zoro cannot use that much Haki, it's that he chooses not to, because using an excess amount of Haki in a short period of time has its draw backs, hence Zoro said it is going to kill him if he continues like this for longer. It's the same with Luffy's G4, which draws out excess amount of Haki, resulting in a similar appearence of having steam around his body, just as Zoro and his swords. When Enma was sucking out his Haki, Zoro himself asked if he should downregulate it, but then said "no, I just have not to resist and let it go".
 
You answered your question. In normal condition , zoro cannot use that much of haki power . Do not misunderstand me. Zoro unlocked haki power can be limitless. But zoro without enma can use ten percent of that . However, enma can allow to use one hundered percent directly. That means to able to use more haki , zoro dont have to make any training. He can release how much haki he want of course depends on how much he have. That make enma very special sword.
Enma doesnt give powers
Enma takes zoro s power
 
"Magic" swords have always been a thing ever since louge town but with how extra and in your face its been with enma it's pretty annoying

As for potential rivals for the wss title. Whether or not they'd have graded blades doesn't really matter because those characters don't actually exist yet

Mihawk already has one of the highest quality so thats all that really matters I guess

Zoro did eventually get mad at king for not using his sword tho. Which on it's own is fine i guess but i honestly hate the juxtaposition with what he originally said at the start

 
The only other person who has mastered Enma is Oden. Most swordsmen are incapable of doing it.

Anyone can get science upgrades. Lanji is easy to mass produce with enough resources. His haki is dogwater anyways so it doesn't matter if Pacifista can't replicate it.

On the other hand ACOC and black blade cannot be replicated.
 
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