Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1064 Spoilers Discussion
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That's what we've been telling ourselves to make sense of his bounty. Do you honestly believe keeping Luffy bounty at 3 billion and calling him Yonko helps in covering his identity? Sure, they lowballed Luffy's contribution but he's still one of the 3 ring leaders to who pulled it off meaning his contribution is equal as far as opponents go.
Still, Luffy has a better influence, better crew, and better connections. The whole world already knows all of this and his bounty description literally says the whole thing. He still has the same bounty, so it's not at all justified both logically as well as technically.
They were keeping an almost perfect record of pre-skip characters, there is no way a new Yonko crew isn't receiving enough attention. Basically, you're admitting there is no set logic here. That's all I wanted to prove. Other than that, I pretty much operate at the same wavelength as you when it comes to bounties.
Still, Luffy has a better influence, better crew, and better connections. The whole world already knows all of this and his bounty description literally says the whole thing. He still has the same bounty, so it's not at all justified both logically as well as technically.
They were keeping an almost perfect record of pre-skip characters, there is no way a new Yonko crew isn't receiving enough attention. Basically, you're admitting there is no set logic here. That's all I wanted to prove. Other than that, I pretty much operate at the same wavelength as you when it comes to bounties.
no, this is wrong. black hardening is a specific technique called "armament hardening" and it's commented on in-story as being visible. the lightning is also visible. using armament haki at its most basic level is "invisible armor" but the other techniques are visible. when zoro turns his sword black, it physically turns black.
there is absolutely zero proof to this headcanon claim that "hardening is just for the readers to see it" because its not used consistently for all haki usage and only used when someone is using buso koka, specifically. it was never said to be this way in SBS, or vivre card, or the manga, or any supplementary material at all. it's pure headcanon.
probably some shit Artur said.
at BEST you might be able to claim haki is invisible unless you trained observation haki, because it doesn't become visible to the reader until the POV character, Luffy, trains in obs haki. That is as far as you can reasonably take this claim. but even so, it's visible to a trained fighter.
there is absolutely zero proof to this headcanon claim that "hardening is just for the readers to see it" because its not used consistently for all haki usage and only used when someone is using buso koka, specifically. it was never said to be this way in SBS, or vivre card, or the manga, or any supplementary material at all. it's pure headcanon.
probably some shit Artur said.
at BEST you might be able to claim haki is invisible unless you trained observation haki, because it doesn't become visible to the reader until the POV character, Luffy, trains in obs haki. That is as far as you can reasonably take this claim. but even so, it's visible to a trained fighter.
"They were keeping an almost perfect record of pre-skip characters, there is no way a new Yonko crew isn't receiving enough attention."
were they now or is there a bit of delusion here lmao?
zoro gets 120 mil after the battle with kaku
sanji gets 70 mil after fighting jabra rated just a tad below him.
sanji also did not receive a bounty after the take down of baroque works as well while zoro did.
the author literally tells you in that sbs its hard to assign bounties for commanders to a proportionate scale.. this isnt a point to argue, you just have to read.
"That's what we've been telling ourselves to make sense of his bounty. Do you honestly believe keeping Luffy bounty at 3 billion and calling him Yonko helps in covering his identity"
him being joyboy awakening that devil fruit and being called a yonko are exclusive . whats your point, hes a yonko now, without that picture no one in the outside world would even have anything to ponder about.
The gorosei was privy to the fact luffy took down kaido after awakening his fruit on his own. that we know.
the world was not made aware of that. they were awarded the bounties simply for their contribution to the fall of both yonkos equally.
that isnt simply something we tell ourselves , its something the wg actively knows
and the wg held back from the population. in wano luffy defeated kaido , in the world at large that isnt the case.
were they now or is there a bit of delusion here lmao?
zoro gets 120 mil after the battle with kaku
sanji gets 70 mil after fighting jabra rated just a tad below him.
sanji also did not receive a bounty after the take down of baroque works as well while zoro did.
the author literally tells you in that sbs its hard to assign bounties for commanders to a proportionate scale.. this isnt a point to argue, you just have to read.
"That's what we've been telling ourselves to make sense of his bounty. Do you honestly believe keeping Luffy bounty at 3 billion and calling him Yonko helps in covering his identity"
him being joyboy awakening that devil fruit and being called a yonko are exclusive . whats your point, hes a yonko now, without that picture no one in the outside world would even have anything to ponder about.
The gorosei was privy to the fact luffy took down kaido after awakening his fruit on his own. that we know.
the world was not made aware of that. they were awarded the bounties simply for their contribution to the fall of both yonkos equally.
that isnt simply something we tell ourselves , its something the wg actively knows
and the wg held back from the population. in wano luffy defeated kaido , in the world at large that isnt the case.
Cap.
Thriller Bark Sanji has better strength feats than Jinbei's strength feats so far.
And Sanji sends a multi-tons Brachiosaurus in the sky.
While Jinbei got sent flying by skinny ass Big Mom.
Jinbei can't even overpowered WsW.
Sanji broke Queen's sword with no CoA.
vs Jinbei whose defense got broke by Who's Who!
Yeah nice. When it comes to Jinbei, he can bypass defense but when it comes to Sanji, excuses can't be made lol. Talk about contradiction.
And Sanji was the first one out of the Monster Trio to damage the Pacifista.
Sanji endure more hits than Jinbei ever takes.
Equal lol.
Jinbei:
Didn't finish off Wadatsumi.
Sanji:
Finished off Wadatsumi.
Try better.
Thriller Bark Sanji has better strength feats than Jinbei's strength feats so far.
And Sanji sends a multi-tons Brachiosaurus in the sky.
While Jinbei got sent flying by skinny ass Big Mom.
Jinbei can't even overpowered WsW.
Sanji broke Queen's sword with no CoA.
vs Jinbei whose defense got broke by Who's Who!
Yeah nice. When it comes to Jinbei, he can bypass defense but when it comes to Sanji, excuses can't be made lol. Talk about contradiction.
And Sanji was the first one out of the Monster Trio to damage the Pacifista.
Sanji endure more hits than Jinbei ever takes.
Equal lol.
Jinbei:
Didn't finish off Wadatsumi.
Sanji:
Finished off Wadatsumi.
Try better.
armament hardening came from people saying "armament hardening" on panel and then their arm turns black. regular armament haki is just invisible armor. armament hardening physically changes the properties of your body and makes your skin harder. it alters the properties of luffy's rubber. doflamingo even assumes that he wouldn't be rubbery at all but he's just stiffer, more vulcanized rubber.
in fact, in the japanese name of armament hardening, "busoshoku koka", the "koka" can also mean "vulcanization" or "solidification".
something probably not worth mentioning because its technically non-canon, but:
there's also Film Z, which was overseen by Oda, with a villain designed by Oda, named "Black Arm Zephyr". Why is he Black Arm? His armament hardening. How could he be Black Arm if you can't see his black arm?
in fact, in the japanese name of armament hardening, "busoshoku koka", the "koka" can also mean "vulcanization" or "solidification".
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something probably not worth mentioning because its technically non-canon, but:
there's also Film Z, which was overseen by Oda, with a villain designed by Oda, named "Black Arm Zephyr". Why is he Black Arm? His armament hardening. How could he be Black Arm if you can't see his black arm?
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Shanks and WB clashed and split the sky whithout the extra fanfare black hardening and lightening that Oda shows for the adv. CoC clash he shows nowadays.
The whole of PreTS where Haki was used it was invisible.
Just thes two examples is enough to prove that Haki is invisible and there is more.
Hardening is just the basics of basics of using Haki from Luffy's mouth. Nothing advanced here. Every fodder worth even a little in the NW could use Hardening, don't make it some kind of special thing.
Hardening is just the technical name given to the act of coating one's body with Armament, nothing else. Characters doesn't need to shout Hardening like a shonen MC everytime they used Haki, that 's just tedious.
The whole of PreTS where Haki was used it was invisible.
Just thes two examples is enough to prove that Haki is invisible and there is more.
Hardening is just the basics of basics of using Haki from Luffy's mouth. Nothing advanced here. Every fodder worth even a little in the NW could use Hardening, don't make it some kind of special thing.
Hardening is just the technical name given to the act of coating one's body with Armament, nothing else. Characters doesn't need to shout Hardening like a shonen MC everytime they used Haki, that 's just tedious.
Mihawk a mid top tier???????
I think only difference would a small amount will power / endurance
The fight most of the way through would look dead equal
Like I still think luffy is below kaido but only because he lacks the stamina or a more efficient way of using energy
Compared to kaido himself
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as well oda moved blackbeards bounty up in time for him to fight law
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