Powers & Abilities Yami Yami no Mi's Flaw(Blackbeard's Weakness)...

[Gol D. Roger]

How Does Blackbeard's Weakness Work?​

In courtesy of @Reborn-senpai and our beloved(feared) @Blackbeard-sama, it's high time we dedicate a separate thread to discuss the hot topic of the decade. So how do you interpret this dialogue from Blackbeard? What do you think of Blackbeard's weakness? How does it work in your opinion? Is this really a disadvantage?

Discuss.

 

[ZenZu]

Oh and side note, I'm mad impressed with how Teach took Shockwille, he feels amplified pain, that same attack had even Big Mom begging. Make no mistake Shock wille is a brutal attack, in terms of dealing damage I was ranking it just ahead of rooftop Asura, even if you don't agree, it's around that ballpark at worst. It broke Big Mom's ribs and had her arm dangling, BB just got an insane endurance feat, lord knows how many bones of his are broken/fractured atm.

 

[Reborn]

Oh and side note, I'm mad impressed with how Teach took Shockwille, he feels amplified pain, that same attack had even Big Mom begging. Make no mistake Shock wille is a brutal attack, in terms of dealing damage I was ranking it just ahead of rooftop Asura, even if you don't agree, it's around that ballpark at worst. It broke Big Mom's ribs and had her arm dangling, BB just got an insane endurance feat, lord knows how many bones of his are broken/fractured atm.

His bones aren't fractured.


Yami can absorb anything. So, it absorbed the shock wille but in return gave BB amplified pain which he endured.

His endurance is god tier to withstand so much pain but I don't think his bones are broken

 

[ZenZu]

His bones aren't fractured.


Yami can absorb anything. So, it absorbed the shock wille but in return gave BB amplified pain which he endured.

His endurance is god tier to withstand so much pain but I don't think his bones are broken

I've never thought of it like this. And I don't even think this is necessarily true, but it's an interesting angle. This would make the Yami drawback far less of a drawback because the actual damage is being reduced, though regardless I think the pain being amplified is supposed to be a hint that Teach is tailor made for it and not every one can use this fruit to its fullest.

 

[Buggy D Clown]

His bones aren't fractured.


Yami can absorb anything. So, it absorbed the shock wille but in return gave BB amplified pain which he endured.

His endurance is god tier to withstand so much pain but I don't think his bones are broken

How would that even work? Why would he be bleeding?

 

[ZenZu]

How would that even work? Why would he be bleeding?

Maybe he absorbs the damage from the attack but the properties of the attack isn't the same/effective? Kinda like Kuma transferring damage in bubble form.

It would make him a heck of a lot closer to a traditional logia this way. Instead of pure intangibility it would give him this built in defensive mechanism at the cost of amplified pain.

I doubt it though...and his darkness would probably need to be activated (like when he stopped the burning by putting out Ace's flames on his chest, though he could be in his logia state without us knowing and him offsetting damage is him just being in that state).

 

[Reborn]

I've never thought of it like this. And I don't even think this is necessarily true, but it's an interesting angle. This would make the Yami drawback far less of a drawback because the actual damage is being reduced, though regardless I think the pain being amplified is supposed to be a hint that Teach is tailor made for it and not every one can use this fruit to its fullest.

How would that even work? Why would he be bleeding?

Look at the above panels.

BB definitely took Ace attack so he took the damage but yami then absorbed the attack but at the same time it amplifies the pain for BB.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Maybe he absorbs the damage from the attack but the properties of the attack isn't the same/effective? Kinda like Kuma transferring damage in bubble form.

It would make him a heck of a lot closer to a traditional logia this way. Instead of pure intangibility it would give him this built in defensive mechanism at the cost of amplified pain.

I doubt it though...and his darkness would probably need to be activated (like when he stopped the burning by putting out Ace's flames on his chest, though he could be in his logia state without us knowing and him offsetting damage is him just being in that state).

We're specifically told he absorbs pain, so we can rule out the damage. What we have to figure out is what absorbing pain means i.e., does BB stop feeling pain after it is absorbed? Or does the pain still stay the same and continue to hurt him?

If the pain disappears, then it'd be more of an advantage than a disadvantage but BB made it sound like a disadvantage. It could be because it's an advantage that comes with a price though.

 

[Buggy D Clown]

We're specifically told he absorbs pain, so we can rule out the damage. What we have to figure out is what absorbing pain means i.e., does BB stop feeling pain after it is absorbed? Or does the pain still stay the same and continue to hurt him?

If the pain disappears, then it'd be more of an advantage than a disadvantage but BB made it sound like a disadvantage. It could be because it's an advantage that comes with a price though.

Maybe it's a disadvantage in the sense that normal logia don't get pain at all/a disadvantage only when compared to a normal logia?

 

[Gol D. Roger]

I moved your posts to another dedicated thread if anyone's confused.

 

[Reborn]

@Sentinel @Playa4321 @Celestial D. Dragon what you guys think?

 

[Blackbeard]

Look at the above panels.

BB definitely took Ace attack so he took the damage but yami then absorbed the attack but at the same time it amplifies the pain for BB.

@Gol D. Roger

Basically what Reborn said.

Irrelevant but interesting: Teach's line in this chapter about DF benefits outweighing the drawbacks combined with the massive pain amplifying weakness of Yami is a big alarm, Teach as someone that read the DF encyclopedia knows something we don't.

Not only Yami is an anomaly amongst all three DF classes by being able to negate them, but also is what Oda used as an example of an invincible power in his early sketches, where he said only the sea can stop it (interesting that Law mention this weakness in this chapter). I'm fully convinced that no matter how crazy Gura or Teach's next Zoan feats are, Yami will still triumph them all. A Nika-like power could very well be sleeping within it.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

@Gol D. Roger

Basically what Reborn said.

Irrelevant but interesting: Teach's line in this chapter about DF benefits outweighing the drawbacks combined with the massive pain amplifying weakness of Yami is a big alarm, Teach as someone that read the DF encyclopedia knows something we don't.

Not only Yami is an anomaly amongst all three DF classes by being able to negate them, but also is what Oda used as an example of an invincible power in his early sketches, where he said only the sea can stop it (interesting that Law mention this weakness in this chapter). I'm fully convinced that no matter how crazy Gura or Teach's next Zoan feats are, Yami will still triumph them all. A Nika-like power could very well be sleeping within it.

Obviously, the admiral of admirals will triumph all.

 

[uyuu]

I just think that DF ability are meant by Oda to be the most simple in explanation.

- BB said he cant become intangible since darkness absorbs everything. By absorbing imo he means "affected by/take damage" just like regular human even tho he's a logia. That's why BB state it as a weakness. If absorbing damage mean nullify the damage, BB would boast about that absorbing attacks/pain as an advantage.

- "pain is amplified in the process" "sucks pain the most" meaning BB suffers pain more than other people. Whether the darkness later "absorb" the damage which means eaten/erase the damage is unclear, but i don't think that is the case. Since BB is portrayed as a character who bleeds around, run away when scared, not wanting to sacrifice his properties etc, just like a rather natural human being.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

His weakness is perhaps not his weakness.
Yes he take the pain, but I think he not get pierced/stabbed or is immun to cut attacks in general, since the darkness heals him, like how Ace pierced him but in the end he didn´t had any cut wound or something.
Overall I feel like Blackbeard true power of the Yami will play out when he used his awakening, a very unqiue hax ability.

 

[Zolo]

Oh and side note, I'm mad impressed with how Teach took Shockwille, he feels amplified pain, that same attack had even Big Mom begging. Make no mistake Shock wille is a brutal attack, in terms of dealing damage I was ranking it just ahead of rooftop Asura, even if you don't agree, it's around that ballpark at worst. It broke Big Mom's ribs and had her arm dangling, BB just got an insane endurance feat, lord knows how many bones of his are broken/fractured atm.

That atack makes ashura look like childs play, its more on the level of hakai

 

[Reborn]

@Gol D. Roger

Basically what Reborn said.

Irrelevant but interesting: Teach's line in this chapter about DF benefits outweighing the drawbacks combined with the massive pain amplifying weakness of Yami is a big alarm, Teach as someone that read the DF encyclopedia knows something we don't.

Not only Yami is an anomaly amongst all three DF classes by being able to negate them, but also is what Oda used as an example of an invincible power in his early sketches, where he said only the sea can stop it (interesting that Law mention this weakness in this chapter). I'm fully convinced that no matter how crazy Gura or Teach's next Zoan feats are, Yami will still triumph them all. A Nika-like power could very well be sleeping within it.

I totally agree with you


And, hear me out.


We know BB read some df book and was looking for yami for a long time. He even boarded WB ship for this vary purpose for decades (Below panel)

In the above panel he also says - this ability chose me (I will come back to this later)

Yami is hyped as most powerful ability of all df types but why?

The best explanation why yami is powerful comes from following panels

Yami can return everything to nothingness and no one escapes it's gravity - it's perfect black hole - most destructive force in the Universe.

He uses yami to even extract the df spirits from the body of others when they die.


Though, BB can become hammer in sea water but it won't matter if yami can absorb sea water and reduce it to nothing.


Now, let me come back to why BB said "ability chose me" and this is where my headcannon starts


Xebec is really BB - reincarnation or his son.

We know BB ship is named xebec but there is one more thing about it - Xebec in historical context was 3 mast Mediterranean ship - key note here is 3.

And, BB has things going on with 3 - 3 skulls on ship, 3 guns, 3 claws which he used to give shanks 3 scar and possibly 3 dfs

 

[Usopp Haoshoku Haki]

Yami can absorb anything. So, it absorbed the shock wille but in return gave BB amplified pain

So why was he bleeding? It was at best nerfed.Definitely not "asborbed".

 

[Sir Tuna Sandwich II]

Yami can absorb anything. So, it absorbed the shock wille but in return gave BB amplified pain which he endured.

Headcanon.com

 

[NAMELESS]

How Does Blackbeard's Weakness Work?​

In courtesy of @Reborn-senpai and our beloved(feared) @Blackbeard-sama, it's high time we dedicate a separate thread to discuss the hot topic of the decade. So how do you interpret this dialogue from Blackbeard? What do you think of Blackbeard's weakness? How does it work in your opinion? Is this really a disadvantage?

Discuss.

Since BB fruit is probably based around a black hole,i think he can't turn his body into darkness because of the continuous gravity pull.That is the weakness of the Yami Yami,a logia that doesn't provide intagibility and makes you take more pain/damage.

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His bones aren't fractured.


Yami can absorb anything. So, it absorbed the shock wille but in return gave BB amplified pain which he endured.

His endurance is god tier to withstand so much pain but I don't think his bones are broken

Don't know about that,dude had a blody nose after the attack.