Versus Battle Yhwach vs Isshiki,Zeref and kaido
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Juha can see multiple timelines and choose which timeline plays out, remember in one of the timelines Ichigo killed him with his bankai but Juha just choose a different timeline to play out where he destroys Ichigo's bankai, so whatever timeline any of his opponents do something that can beat him, he just chooses a timeline where that power fails
dude Juha can see all futures from all realities, he can then write the present the way he wants, if he sees that Zeref beats him in 1 timeline, he can rewrite reality using a different timeline where Zeref fails to active his power, or kill Zeref before he activates his power
The almighty is the power to rewrite reality, Juha's power is not just precognition the way you seem to mistake it, Juha was pretty much unbeatable because he could see the future of everyone from every reality, he could then choose which future he want to happen in the present
The almighty is the power to rewrite reality, Juha's power is not just precognition the way you seem to mistake it, Juha was pretty much unbeatable because he could see the future of everyone from every reality, he could then choose which future he want to happen in the present
if that past will directly involves the present Juha he will then rewrite his present to what he wants.
Let's not kid ourselves, Kubo made The Almighty too broken that's why things that Juha could see and change he didn't, when Tsukishima was using his ability if PIS and CIS wasn't involved then Juha could simply rewrite reality so that book of the end didn't work.
Now explain to me why Juha would let Zeref go to the past when Zeref is doing that action in the present/future?
What's stopping Juhaw from rewriting reality that Zeref past cant affect his present/future?
Let's not kid ourselves, Kubo made The Almighty too broken that's why things that Juha could see and change he didn't, when Tsukishima was using his ability if PIS and CIS wasn't involved then Juha could simply rewrite reality so that book of the end didn't work.
Now explain to me why Juha would let Zeref go to the past when Zeref is doing that action in the present/future?
What's stopping Juhaw from rewriting reality that Zeref past cant affect his present/future?
Yet didn’t with Ichigo’s Bankai. He had to start from scratch in trying to break it all over again.
No, your just giving Yhwach more credit than he deserves. Yhwach was hyped as a brick shithouse yet blown away like a stack of cards.
Zeref stopping time for one thing. Yhwach won’t see it coming in time and he can’t do a thing while in stopped time
No, your just giving Yhwach more credit than he deserves. Yhwach was hyped as a brick shithouse yet blown away like a stack of cards.
Zeref stopping time for one thing. Yhwach won’t see it coming in time and he can’t do a thing while in stopped time
Tsukishima created a new past; he didn't change the current one where it was broken. If that was the case then Orihime who rejects past events should be able to restore it without problems. The reason he was able to restore it was because he created a new past in which the Almighty never broke it, but it still wasn't immune since Yhwach was still able to affect it after.
If you don't understand how that doesn't change anything, then you need to work on understanding how abilities work. It does changes what you said.
There is a difference between changing the past and creating a new past. This is pretty self-explanatory. Orihime changes the past by undoing the events that occur (within her area of influence). Tsukishima created a completely new past that wasn't there before, he didn't change the existing timeline, but created a new path.
They both manipulate the past, but it's not the same. A lot of abilities fall under a certain category (Casuality manipulation, Past manipulation, etc.) but they aren't the same thing. There is a difference.
There is a difference between changing the past and creating a new past. This is pretty self-explanatory. Orihime changes the past by undoing the events that occur (within her area of influence). Tsukishima created a completely new past that wasn't there before, he didn't change the existing timeline, but created a new path.
They both manipulate the past, but it's not the same. A lot of abilities fall under a certain category (Casuality manipulation, Past manipulation, etc.) but they aren't the same thing. There is a difference.
Then Juha will rewrite reality so that his future is not destroyed since the events Zeref changes will affect his present and future.
If I remember correctly Zeref creates a new timeline by altering the past or he changes the past o create a new future, I'm not sure which was it but that still won't work on Juha since what Zeref is doing is directly altering a reality ready under Juha's control.
You seem to think Zeref leaves all reality and creates a new one, but this is t a VS thread so this new reality he creates will still have to interact with Juha, meaning it automatically becomes a reality Juha can control
If I remember correctly Zeref creates a new timeline by altering the past or he changes the past o create a new future, I'm not sure which was it but that still won't work on Juha since what Zeref is doing is directly altering a reality ready under Juha's control.
You seem to think Zeref leaves all reality and creates a new one, but this is t a VS thread so this new reality he creates will still have to interact with Juha, meaning it automatically becomes a reality Juha can control
Once more, Yhwach cannot affect changes in the past.
The Yhwach for this thread will be retconned from existence because of the way time travel works with Zeref’s spell using Fairy Heart and the Space Between Time. The current world and everyone in it up to the point in time Zeref travels to are erased to begin a new timeline.
The Yhwach for this thread will be retconned from existence because of the way time travel works with Zeref’s spell using Fairy Heart and the Space Between Time. The current world and everyone in it up to the point in time Zeref travels to are erased to begin a new timeline.
changes in the past will affect the present and the future for Juha, meaning he can then rewrite them, you don't seem to understand this.
Juha will be powerless if Zeref stays in the past but that would just be Zeref running away which is not what a VS thread is about!
He cannot be erased from existence because to be erased his present and future would stop existing, and that can't happen because Juha can rewrite his present and future, stopping himself from not existing.
To begin a new timeline would mean that the current timeline gets erased, something Juha can casually stop, remember Juha doesn't exist in 1 timeline but in infinite timelines, if you erase 1 timeline he can stop it by existing in another timeline and as long as you stop his past it doesn't mean his future stops, and Zeref doesn't have the power to erase all of existence over infinity at the same time.
Juha will be powerless if Zeref stays in the past but that would just be Zeref running away which is not what a VS thread is about!
He cannot be erased from existence because to be erased his present and future would stop existing, and that can't happen because Juha can rewrite his present and future, stopping himself from not existing.
To begin a new timeline would mean that the current timeline gets erased, something Juha can casually stop, remember Juha doesn't exist in 1 timeline but in infinite timelines, if you erase 1 timeline he can stop it by existing in another timeline and as long as you stop his past it doesn't mean his future stops, and Zeref doesn't have the power to erase all of existence over infinity at the same time.
The moment the change happens, Yhwach is already erased.
He can’t do anything to prevent changes made in the past. There is no present or future changing, everything after the point in time Zeref travels to is erased to begin anew.
Yhwach has never countered a timeline being erased. And he only exists in one place. That’s why killing him is even possible. He can change the future to what he likes, he doesn’t exist in them all at once, wanker
He can’t do anything to prevent changes made in the past. There is no present or future changing, everything after the point in time Zeref travels to is erased to begin anew.
Yhwach has never countered a timeline being erased. And he only exists in one place. That’s why killing him is even possible. He can change the future to what he likes, he doesn’t exist in them all at once, wanker