Thread for those who hasnt gotten and will never get vax, and those who never wore and wont wear a mask

#81
but in terms of medical expertise, consensus is almost always trustworthy.
nope
i seen it firsthand

Great for you. Millions other did and suffered for it, Can you include this information in your simple concept or would your brain explode?
Point is, vaccines should not be forced on ppl. Those who want is should get it, those who don't want to shouldn't get it.
This shaming of unvaxxed ppl was the most stupid bs.
 
#82
Hmm i didn't got the vaccine, it was a mix of not being sure of the side effects, not immediate side effects, no one would have got it if people started dropping like flies and ofc it's easy to stumble upon news of people dying bc of it and getting a bad opinion, but for the long term ones.

Like afaik it takes a couple of years to FULLY test a vaccine and be aware of what it can cause in the long run,i remember cases that happened here in italy .......
Where they had to vaccine people against something ( a bacteria or something don't remember precisely what it was ) and after 3/4 years they decided not to do it anymore on women because a good amount of them started having bad reactions years after doing it multiple times and replaced it with a new version of it.

I'm lucky though cuz i work from home and have to go to the office like only once a year, i also have A TON of space at home and basically a private beach xD so i can handle " quarantine " like a breeze, and also when this whole thing started i also started being really focussed on my job so kinda stopped hanging out that much.....ofc i have been respectfull and always used a mask and tried to avoid crowded places.....

Though if i was for whatever reason forced to do it ( like losing my job or having to go in places where i could have been a danger for others i would have done it.....)

I also got covid twice ( from friends that came to my house
) but barely had any symptoms like a very light cold....
Its not a serious disease for most people.The thing about covid is that it spreads too fast and can put alot of people with outher illnes in hospital prettu quickly.So they were afraid hospitals would get filled with sick people and other peopel that needed treatment would die for a lack of assistance.
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Dude, Nations in Europe that had those numbers of vaxxed people opened few months after Covid hit because it was that safe

So you either full of BS or have wrong info
I don't live in Europe goddamit.
 

Reborn

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#83
I talked with docs,some just went along with the media and others were very cautious and only recommended the vaccines for people that are part of the risk group.I decided to get vaxxed because i used to live with the elderly.Got very pissed wwhen media published vax don't stop trasnmission and now Robert Malone the vax produces very little immunization,so we all got scammed.YOU GUYS seems to be ones that are too scared to admit you got cheated into injecting poison into your bodies.I admit i got scammed along with millons all over the world.Fuck big pharma,governments and the media.
Nah


As Adam said, people who benefits from vaccines far out numbers the people who got any side effects.


And, you people need to understand that covid vaccines weren't 100% effective to begin with. It's because first due to how quickly these were made(Vaccine development takes years of research) and second due to the frequent mutations we were seeing. That's why some doctors said it won't be as effective but this doesn't mean they said don't take vaccines.

The vaccines were advocated to give you enough immunity boost to prevent you falling into critical conditions if you get covid. And, it did remarkable job in this regard
 
#84
nope
i seen it firsthand


Point is, vaccines should not be forced on ppl. Those who want is should get it, those who don't want to shouldn't get it.
This shaming of unvaxxed ppl was the most stupid bs.
"my body,my choices" only applies to abortion.Here in my country you don't to take it if you want.But the public shaming is hardcore.
 

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#85
This shaming of unvaxxed ppl was the most stupid bs.
It ain't stupid when their actions endanger people around them

We had anti vax wave here and that same wave got fucked hard by COVID, they filled hospitals with their un vaxed asses so much so that when my grandma broke her rib doctors had to send her home after examination because they didn't have room in the hospital or manpower to give proper treatment

My grandma would end up dying few days later because some fucktards that can't grasp the concept doctors know more than their primary school ass flogged the hospital when she needed it the most
 
#86
Nah


As Adam said, people who benefits from vaccines far out numbers the people who got any side effects.


And, you people need to understand that covid vaccines weren't 100% effective to begin with. It's because first due to how quickly these were made(Vaccine development takes years of research) and second due to the frequent mutations we were seeing. That's why some doctors said it won't be as effective but this doesn't mean they said don't take vaccines.

The vaccines were advocated to give you enough immunity boost to prevent you falling into critical conditions if you get covid. And, it did remarkable job in this regard
I get that.I was hooked on the news.But now some doctors are saying that vaccines barely helped with immunization,if this is true.Then we all got scammed.
 
#88
It ain't stupid when their actions endanger people around them

We had anti vax wave here and that same wave got fucked hard by COVID, they filled hospitals with their un vaxed asses so much so that when my grandma broke her rib doctors had to send her home after examination because they didn't have room in the hospital or manpower to give proper treatment

My grandma would end up dying few days later because some fucktards that can't grasp the concept doctors know more than their primary school ass flogged the hospital when she needed it the most
i'm sorry for your gradma.That was the real danger of covid,flooded hospitals that can't help people ill with other stuff.
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ok,just put me in our ignore list then.i see you are new to the forum.
 

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#89
I get that.I was hooked on the news.But now some doctors are saying that vaccines barely helped with immunization,if this is true.Then we all got scammed.
It's related to the strains.


Covid got highly mutated with multiple strains. A covid vaccine can boost immunity but not against all strains that's why immunity won't be that high.

But does this means vaccines doesn't work? Hell no.

Vaccine were really effective and scientists did remarkable job in making them as effective as they can in such little time.
 
#91
You said:



So yes you did in fact say something personal about me. Lol

I only brought up my (great) health to poke holes in your statement about me poisoning myself.
"YOU GUYS" meaning people that don't doubt anything big media say.I didn't go mocking anyone about health issues.it was only a warning,nobody knows to long term effects of the Mrna vaccine.So all of you watch out for your health in the coming months and years.i'm done with this thread because shit is getting toxic.
 
#93
I donโ€™t believe you. Lol

Medical consensus is never disprovable by any internet rando.
what medical consensus?we only get to see docs saying whatever the big media says,the ones that don't get silenced.I know a guy that was told by his doc not to take the vaccine because it might be dangerous since he has a health condition.Not everyone CAN take these vaccines because of health issues.
 

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#94
Only 1% suffer from side effects and even less from serious side effects. Life expectancy around the world is highest because of modern medicine where vaccines play a major factor
All of my knowns took vaccines and they all are fine with one exception - a friend of mine who took multiple dosages and got sick really bad. She even got covid 4 times till now even after taking vaccines and got hospitalized few times.


When I talked to her about this then she said it's not that vaccines are issues or these not effective but she had immunity issues and some inherent issues from the beginning. Despite getting sick she found vaccines effective


Btw, she is a doctor by profession
 

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#95
nobody knows to long term effects of the Mrna vaccine
We do know the long term effects of vaccines though:

-Protection

There is nothing fundamentally different about the Covid vaccine vs any other vaccine except that it protects from severe Covid symptoms. None of the other vaccines have long term side effects, neither will the Covid vaccine. This is medical consensus.

Oh wait, but youโ€™re a conservative so you can just believe whatever hair brained shit you want lol.
 
#97
All of my knowns took vaccines and they all are fine with one exception - a friend of mine who took multiple dosages and got sick really bad. She even got covid 4 times till now even after taking vaccines and got hospitalized few times.


When I talked to her about this then she said it's not that vaccines are issues or these not effective but she had immunity issues and some inherent issues from the beginning. Despite getting sick she found vaccines effective


Btw, she is a doctor by profession
yep,some people have a hard time dealing with health issues.I wish good health to your friend.
 

Reborn

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#98
what medical consensus?we only get to see docs saying whatever the big media says,the ones that don't get silenced.I know a guy that was told by his doc not to take the vaccine because it might be dangerous since he has a health condition.Not everyone CAN take these vaccines because of health issues.
General scientific consensus clearly said - People need to be vaccinated and vaccines are effective.


And, advisory was issued that those who have some health issues or in case of pregnant women one must consult doctor first.

yep,some people have a hard time dealing with health issues.I wish good health to your friend.
Thanks ๐Ÿ‘
 
#99
We do know the long term effects of vaccines though:

-Protection

There is nothing fundamentally different about the Covid vaccine vs any other vaccine except that it protects from severe Covid symptoms. None of the other vaccines have long term side effects, neither will the Covid vaccine. This is medical consensus.

Oh wait, but youโ€™re a conservative so you can just believe whatever hair brained shit you want lol.
Let me ask you something,if i was a left winger and doubted all this stuff,would you be caling me out on my political stances?what does politics have to do with health issues?We are NOT debating politics here,we are debating covid and the vaccines.If people should wear maks or be put under lockdown is not the point of this thread.
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I 'm not obliged to share my private life stories with some internet rando.

Just be a bit more critical and don't believe every dude with a doctor degree.
exactly.
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General scientific consensus clearly said - People need to be vaccinated and vaccines are effective.


And, advisory was issued that those who have some health issues or in case of pregnant women one must consult doctor first.


Thanks ๐Ÿ‘
yes,most people were recommeding the vaccines,but now they are not so sure anymore.Because new strains keep coming and vaxx people 12+ times for the same bug might be dangerous.So its a shitty situation we are in.Maybe someone will figure out some effective early treatment instead of vaccines.
 
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