Still saying....look at admiral fans....
Yes i saw those posts. Not even worth the attention imo xD.
Yo looks like Zoan awakening is like a Zenkai boosted base or hybrid form. Where do you rank their base attacks at? I think it could likely be that Luffy had no recoil behind his moves, because he punched into Kaido's body by making him rubbery, which is why it might not look as powerful.
Personally i used to think it is marginally a bit stronger than base punches. But i didnt factor in the no recoil aspect. It might be stronger than that but i dont even think it would match snakeman's striking power let alone g3 (i rate Roc over both g3 & Snakeman interms of striking power.).
I think I've underestimated it a lot. Looks like all of his tanking feats against Kaido were raw body durability and without that "covered in CoA and CoC"-stuff. And when Pythagoras notices that great speed, it makes it look like that stat increase is significant.
Somewhere between base and Roc I think just in terms of raw physical strength/power?
It being raw body dura was what made sense. Especially since we saw how g5's shapeshifting ability allowed Luffy to handle Kaidou's blunt force very well. The coating with CoA/CoC part may also exist (which is a very vague statement) but it's more of the shapeshifting which reduces the impact imo.
The speed comment about Lucci makes sense, Awakening should give him a bit of a stat boost across the board no?