Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1069 Spoilers Discussion

Who will fight Kizaru ?


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Obviously, no one is arguing this point lol
When @MarineHQ and @Fleet Admiral Lee Hung suggest awakening means more than Haki, they are basically arguing that.

Awakening means FUCK ALL if it isn't complemented by Haki. There are few exceptions of course due to match up advantages that awakenings provide.

But Haki is more of a stand alone complete power with great versatility. It can work offensively, defensively, increase durability, counter devil fruit.

Haki can basically get you out of 99% of combat situations in One Piece depending on how deep your mastery is.
Devil fruit is limited by its own nature.
 
Haki is probably more important for your overall power-level than DFs/Awakening if we're talking about having just one or the other.

We haven't seen any top tier who only relies on their DF, while there are plenty of top tiers who essentially rely solely on haki. Mihawk, Rayleigh and Shanks are not only DFless, but they are regular humans. Freaks like Kaido and Big Mom not only have natural physical advantages over others, but also powerful DFs AND strong haki, yet Kaido is still comparable to the other 3 and Big Mom is straight up weaker than them. Obviously, you can get away with not having godlike haki if you have an incredibly powerful DF, but it still needs to be top tier level.

I mean, it's either that or swordsmanship is simply that powerful of an ability in one piece :pepehawk:
 
When @MarineHQ and @Fleet Admiral Lee Hung suggest awakening means more than Haki, they are basically arguing that.

Awakening means FUCK ALL if it isn't complemented by Haki. There are few exceptions of course due to match up advantages that awakenings provide.

But Haki is more of a stand alone complete power with great versatility. It can work offensively, defensively, increase durability, counter devil fruit.

Haki can basically get you out of 99% of combat situations in One Piece depending on how deep your mastery is.
Devil fruit is limited by its own nature.
Awakening meant much more for Luffy than CoC, maybe not against a durable goofball like Kaido tho
Not only did awakening give him a massive boost in CoC strength, but his physical stats are just absurd now, his durability and endurance are off the charts, he can use the rubbery terrain for offense and defense.

A CoCless ACoA only Nika would beat the shit out of Big Mom for example
But CoC no devil fruit Luffy barely makes it to commander level
He loses his strength, speed, durability, fighting style etc, and because he’s overall much weaker his haki would be crap
 
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