Even jim crow era is so old, That it has no barring on how things are in the modern day but that's how you know black people are living good now most of the opression argued for existing, Is ether entirely historical ie past events not relevant today or just general low income class problems ie shit even i deal with
Controversial Alot of leftist belief is inherently racist
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They are stuck in the cycle because no one fucking invests in area with high crimes
Bruh i grew up in fucking Balkans in the poorest region of my country. I work in the court.
You know how i know.proper policing works? I see it every day at work
We have high crime areas just like any other country. And when police does their job the crime rate drops a lot in those areas for a period of time
Police is a deterent.
You are less likely to do a crime if there is an chance you would get caught or killed
Police isnt perfect, but it works.
Another problem is US police being dong shit bcs of only 6 month training period
How is a fault of capitalism students wont fucking learn for better education in black areas but wotks superbly well in white areas?
Dude my school barely had heating during winters and we NEVER had situations like US has
Black People.need to take some responsibility for their communities. If not no wonder no one will invest
Bruh i grew up in fucking Balkans in the poorest region of my country. I work in the court.
You know how i know.proper policing works? I see it every day at work
We have high crime areas just like any other country. And when police does their job the crime rate drops a lot in those areas for a period of time
Police is a deterent.
You are less likely to do a crime if there is an chance you would get caught or killed
Police isnt perfect, but it works.
Another problem is US police being dong shit bcs of only 6 month training period
How is a fault of capitalism students wont fucking learn for better education in black areas but wotks superbly well in white areas?
Dude my school barely had heating during winters and we NEVER had situations like US has
Black People.need to take some responsibility for their communities. If not no wonder no one will invest
???
I work daily with criminals and police, my dad is police chief last 25 years, my uncle is former police.
I understand how police works very well. I understand their M.O.
And for the most part police here does a very good job on policing comunities, even those with higher criminal rates.
And we are one of the poorest regions in the continent.
I work daily with criminals and police, my dad is police chief last 25 years, my uncle is former police.
I understand how police works very well. I understand their M.O.
And for the most part police here does a very good job on policing comunities, even those with higher criminal rates.
And we are one of the poorest regions in the continent.
Ofc they were
it was jim crow times lol
1960s was the years where jim crow laws were in place
Same timeframe where civil rights movement occured
Race relations were nonexistent and the idea of treating others equally regardless of skin tone was a retarded idea at least for how people of the time saw it, Same kinda applies today with woke leftists who need bad race relations for their narratives to work
I personally dislike both race realist leftists who wanna stoke division and jim crow era racists as both play on division between races to gather attention for themselves
I stand by the mlk jr sentiment of judge by character not anything else, That was my value as a child and it still would be now
and you can dislike that if you like and disagree by citing a mlk jr video which in no way says my statement of judge on character not race was a lie
but that's your dishonest prerogative not mine
and your an utter moron if you buy this argument
White straight men are most opressed and well your not a white man who's straight so clearly you reek of privilege
your logic never applies equally cause your arguing on ideology not logic
and you can have beliefs but argue on logic, it's not work even christans do it eg clearly there has a be a god as animals are complex something which cant occur in a survival of the fittest evolution model
Not to say, I agree with their argument regarding that matter but at least they make a claim for their delusions where you cant even do that instead saying you aint black so shut up
Something which is very racist as it presumes cause im white, I cannot empathize or understand how others feel just cause of race
And sadly this is very consistent trend among liberals with even biden quoting the sentiment of if you dont like my leftist policies then you must not be black and therefore cant understand what's said as if that's any different too, You dont understand white people so you shouldt go to the same schools
Me opposing utter racists like biden and you makes me bad, Maybe my ideals or beliefs didt change to match up with current leftist ideology but dont really care when your platform exists to stoke racial conflict with movements like blm
Ideally we should want better race relations not worse but liberals need conflict for votes so stoke division then call me the badguy for pointing it out
more white women then black people at least in america
it's not cause of racism, You keep jumping to crazy conclusions without understanding what's ongoing with the subject matter
it was jim crow times lol
1960s was the years where jim crow laws were in place
Same timeframe where civil rights movement occured
Race relations were nonexistent and the idea of treating others equally regardless of skin tone was a retarded idea at least for how people of the time saw it, Same kinda applies today with woke leftists who need bad race relations for their narratives to work
I personally dislike both race realist leftists who wanna stoke division and jim crow era racists as both play on division between races to gather attention for themselves
I stand by the mlk jr sentiment of judge by character not anything else, That was my value as a child and it still would be now
and you can dislike that if you like and disagree by citing a mlk jr video which in no way says my statement of judge on character not race was a lie
but that's your dishonest prerogative not mine
and your an utter moron if you buy this argument
White straight men are most opressed and well your not a white man who's straight so clearly you reek of privilege
your logic never applies equally cause your arguing on ideology not logic
and you can have beliefs but argue on logic, it's not work even christans do it eg clearly there has a be a god as animals are complex something which cant occur in a survival of the fittest evolution model
Not to say, I agree with their argument regarding that matter but at least they make a claim for their delusions where you cant even do that instead saying you aint black so shut up
Something which is very racist as it presumes cause im white, I cannot empathize or understand how others feel just cause of race
And sadly this is very consistent trend among liberals with even biden quoting the sentiment of if you dont like my leftist policies then you must not be black and therefore cant understand what's said as if that's any different too, You dont understand white people so you shouldt go to the same schools
Me opposing utter racists like biden and you makes me bad, Maybe my ideals or beliefs didt change to match up with current leftist ideology but dont really care when your platform exists to stoke racial conflict with movements like blm
Ideally we should want better race relations not worse but liberals need conflict for votes so stoke division then call me the badguy for pointing it out
more white women then black people at least in america
it's not cause of racism, You keep jumping to crazy conclusions without understanding what's ongoing with the subject matter
Racism in America is still institutionalized. It is carved in the very fabric of the country. Taking affirmative action is not about trying to be "white saviors". but removing what has been holding minorities back for them to carve themselves a path forward in whatever way they desire. Claiming racism is a thing of the past that ended with Jim Crow is ignorant at best, and disingenuously racist at worst.
Read some or watch some sociology content, plus I don't have to prove anything to you, the discrimination is a sociological fact, this is a consensus, it's YOU who need to prove that it doesn't exist. The burden of proof is on you, not us.
And thus far, you have proven nothing but the fact that you are missinformed and completely bias on the subject.
The fact that you call me an hard core lib just show how little you know about the actual subject of social justice. I'm as lib as the orange pumpkin is queen elysabeth.
Spoiler: liberalism is a gateway to systematic racism so yeah.. i'm not surprised. Again, You are pointing to the wrong problem.
Lot less bias than you mate. And much more knowledgable about the subject than you. Don't twist MLK words, you don't understand for what he fought.
This quote is actually going against your case of a colorblind society mate.
Yeah.. You don't understand racism at all.
The only one who divide here is you.
You have made HOW MANY ? thread to point out that the people whose belief you don't understand were wrong ? Yeah.. exactly. Plenty. You are the divisive one here. Not us. You don't understand militantism so you reject it because it doesn't suit your point of view.
Too bad.. you confusionnists and right wingers are losing and soon, maybe not tomorrow, maybe not next year or in a decade.. but humanly soon, that confusionnist BS will be gone.. and we will finally be able to speak without having orange pumkins, climate deniers, nazi apologist, confusionnist, antifeminist masculinist in our ways.. soon .. soon. Humanity will be freed from bullshit.
Going only after the rich means you are forgetting to bring the oppressed with you, meaning you are losing people in the quest for equity.
It's a lose lose situation. The end of capitalism will only suceeds with a struggle convergeance, if you forget people while you fight, you are no better than capitalists.
No, not if we move the overton windows to the left. You point of view is fatalist.
The convergeance of struggle is simple:
One for all, all for one.
By defending the one, we help ourselves in the long run because the more we are, the best we fight for one objective. Convergeance of struggle is actually pretty simple to accomplish, but for that, we need confusionnist like you either, understanding the concept or out of the way.
Noone here is defending racism, stop being a Usopp damned confusionnist.
Only by political interest. Is long run policy is liberal: meaning right. The left side of the right, but right nonetheless.. the concept of merit and all those myth if you will..
The left exist because the right exist. It's as simple as that.
To make you understand why I'm saying that:
The left viewpoint is only here to enters in opposition to the right viewpoint. The best example is the notion of merit.
The left knows that this notion is not a reality. The right keeps feeding the myth. Why ? Because interests.
When you live you life thinking you deserve what you have, you can't understand social struggle. unless you question yourself and your beliefs.
By this example, you can understand that the left side only exist because there is a "wrong" side. To counter someone who is wrong, you need to stay away and speak back. That's what i'm doing here.
You are wrong. You don't understand racism, you don't understand social and racial struggle and you don't understand that only by fighting inequity will you be able to create real equity. Oda knows that, that's why their are all sort of social struggle in One Piece, it's not just about a power struggle it's far deeper than that. It's the same in real life.
Social struggle don't cancel Class struggles, they empower them.
Dude.. you are following a liberal confusionnist pattern (leaning on right wing arguments). It's nothing new. Questionning the struggle of racialized leftist, twisting MLK rhetoric, saying that their leftist ideas are racist.. that a pure product of the power in place. A paradigm that is fed back by right wing and facist groups and medias like the tucker turd.
You are only proving that you are the tool of the power here.
And thus far, you have proven nothing but the fact that you are missinformed and completely bias on the subject.
The fact that you call me an hard core lib just show how little you know about the actual subject of social justice. I'm as lib as the orange pumpkin is queen elysabeth.
Spoiler: liberalism is a gateway to systematic racism so yeah.. i'm not surprised. Again, You are pointing to the wrong problem.
Lot less bias than you mate. And much more knowledgable about the subject than you. Don't twist MLK words, you don't understand for what he fought.
This quote is actually going against your case of a colorblind society mate.
Yeah.. You don't understand racism at all.
The only one who divide here is you.
You have made HOW MANY ? thread to point out that the people whose belief you don't understand were wrong ? Yeah.. exactly. Plenty. You are the divisive one here. Not us. You don't understand militantism so you reject it because it doesn't suit your point of view.
Too bad.. you confusionnists and right wingers are losing and soon, maybe not tomorrow, maybe not next year or in a decade.. but humanly soon, that confusionnist BS will be gone.. and we will finally be able to speak without having orange pumkins, climate deniers, nazi apologist, confusionnist, antifeminist masculinist in our ways.. soon .. soon. Humanity will be freed from bullshit.
Going only after the rich means you are forgetting to bring the oppressed with you, meaning you are losing people in the quest for equity.
It's a lose lose situation. The end of capitalism will only suceeds with a struggle convergeance, if you forget people while you fight, you are no better than capitalists.
No, not if we move the overton windows to the left. You point of view is fatalist.
The convergeance of struggle is simple:
One for all, all for one.
By defending the one, we help ourselves in the long run because the more we are, the best we fight for one objective. Convergeance of struggle is actually pretty simple to accomplish, but for that, we need confusionnist like you either, understanding the concept or out of the way.
Noone here is defending racism, stop being a Usopp damned confusionnist.
Only by political interest. Is long run policy is liberal: meaning right. The left side of the right, but right nonetheless.. the concept of merit and all those myth if you will..
The left exist because the right exist. It's as simple as that.
To make you understand why I'm saying that:
The left viewpoint is only here to enters in opposition to the right viewpoint. The best example is the notion of merit.
The left knows that this notion is not a reality. The right keeps feeding the myth. Why ? Because interests.
When you live you life thinking you deserve what you have, you can't understand social struggle. unless you question yourself and your beliefs.
By this example, you can understand that the left side only exist because there is a "wrong" side. To counter someone who is wrong, you need to stay away and speak back. That's what i'm doing here.
You are wrong. You don't understand racism, you don't understand social and racial struggle and you don't understand that only by fighting inequity will you be able to create real equity. Oda knows that, that's why their are all sort of social struggle in One Piece, it's not just about a power struggle it's far deeper than that. It's the same in real life.
Social struggle don't cancel Class struggles, they empower them.
Dude.. you are following a liberal confusionnist pattern (leaning on right wing arguments). It's nothing new. Questionning the struggle of racialized leftist, twisting MLK rhetoric, saying that their leftist ideas are racist.. that a pure product of the power in place. A paradigm that is fed back by right wing and facist groups and medias like the tucker turd.
You are only proving that you are the tool of the power here.
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There's still many racists as this thread certainly does prove
but no longer institutionalized and it has been that way since the jim crow era
Unless im missing something major
such as a law of some kind
dont think it would be anything that major anyway, black people are allowed to work anywhere they deem fit now and allowed to sit wherever they want now on buses infact had a cute dark skinned chick sit next to me on the bus just the other day
misquoting me
but yea, The action of helping one over another on the basis of their race would be racist
if you helped a white girl getting raped over a black girl or vice versa that would be racist, you neglected the needs of one cause you value the safety of one race more
not the best example ig but you get the point, preferential treatment itself is racist least if it's done on the basis of race
Would you not say, women getting paid less then men is sexist, Why would same logic not apply to affirmative action
but no longer institutionalized and it has been that way since the jim crow era
Unless im missing something major
such as a law of some kind
dont think it would be anything that major anyway, black people are allowed to work anywhere they deem fit now and allowed to sit wherever they want now on buses infact had a cute dark skinned chick sit next to me on the bus just the other day
misquoting me
but yea, The action of helping one over another on the basis of their race would be racist
if you helped a white girl getting raped over a black girl or vice versa that would be racist, you neglected the needs of one cause you value the safety of one race more
not the best example ig but you get the point, preferential treatment itself is racist least if it's done on the basis of race
Would you not say, women getting paid less then men is sexist, Why would same logic not apply to affirmative action
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the left only using these groups to get in power . once it has total control. which is nearly done.
they will kick all these groups to the curb. as they won't need them.
and then we'll see the real face of left. just another power hungry group . but the worst kind that leads to authrotrain control, communism and famine.
they will kick all these groups to the curb. as they won't need them.
and then we'll see the real face of left. just another power hungry group . but the worst kind that leads to authrotrain control, communism and famine.
Ofc they were
it was jim crow times lol
1960s was the years where jim crow laws were in place
Same timeframe where civil rights movement occured
Race relations were nonexistent and the idea of treating others equally regardless of skin tone was a retarded idea at least for how people of the time saw it, Same kinda applies today with woke leftists who need bad race relations for their narratives to work
I personally dislike both race realist leftists who wanna stoke division and jim crow era racists as both play on division between races to gather attention for themselves
I stand by the mlk jr sentiment of judge by character not anything else, That was my value as a child and it still would be now
and you can dislike that if you like and disagree by citing a mlk jr video which in no way says my statement of judge on character not race was a lie
but that's your dishonest prerogative not mine
and your an utter moron if you buy this argument
White straight men are most opressed and well your not a white man who's straight so clearly you reek of privilege
your logic never applies equally cause your arguing on ideology not logic
and you can have beliefs but argue on logic, it's not work even christans do it eg clearly there has a be a god as animals are complex something which cant occur in a survival of the fittest evolution model
Not to say, I agree with their argument regarding that matter but at least they make a claim for their delusions where you cant even do that instead saying you aint black so shut up
Something which is very racist as it presumes cause im white, I cannot empathize or understand how others feel just cause of race
And sadly this is very consistent trend among liberals with even biden quoting the sentiment of if you dont like my leftist policies then you must not be black and therefore cant understand what's said as if that's any different too, You dont understand white people so you shouldt go to the same schools
Me opposing utter racists like biden and you makes me bad, Maybe my ideals or beliefs didt change to match up with current leftist ideology but dont really care when your platform exists to stoke racial conflict with movements like blm
Ideally we should want better race relations not worse but liberals need conflict for votes so stoke division then call me the badguy for pointing it out
more white women then black people at least in america
it's not cause of racism, You keep jumping to crazy conclusions without understanding what's ongoing with the subject matter
it was jim crow times lol
1960s was the years where jim crow laws were in place
Same timeframe where civil rights movement occured
Race relations were nonexistent and the idea of treating others equally regardless of skin tone was a retarded idea at least for how people of the time saw it, Same kinda applies today with woke leftists who need bad race relations for their narratives to work
I personally dislike both race realist leftists who wanna stoke division and jim crow era racists as both play on division between races to gather attention for themselves
I stand by the mlk jr sentiment of judge by character not anything else, That was my value as a child and it still would be now
and you can dislike that if you like and disagree by citing a mlk jr video which in no way says my statement of judge on character not race was a lie
but that's your dishonest prerogative not mine
and your an utter moron if you buy this argument
White straight men are most opressed and well your not a white man who's straight so clearly you reek of privilege
your logic never applies equally cause your arguing on ideology not logic
and you can have beliefs but argue on logic, it's not work even christans do it eg clearly there has a be a god as animals are complex something which cant occur in a survival of the fittest evolution model
Not to say, I agree with their argument regarding that matter but at least they make a claim for their delusions where you cant even do that instead saying you aint black so shut up
Something which is very racist as it presumes cause im white, I cannot empathize or understand how others feel just cause of race
And sadly this is very consistent trend among liberals with even biden quoting the sentiment of if you dont like my leftist policies then you must not be black and therefore cant understand what's said as if that's any different too, You dont understand white people so you shouldt go to the same schools
Me opposing utter racists like biden and you makes me bad, Maybe my ideals or beliefs didt change to match up with current leftist ideology but dont really care when your platform exists to stoke racial conflict with movements like blm
Ideally we should want better race relations not worse but liberals need conflict for votes so stoke division then call me the badguy for pointing it out
more white women then black people at least in america
it's not cause of racism, You keep jumping to crazy conclusions without understanding what's ongoing with the subject matter
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I'm part of a minority group and as an immigrant i've felt how institutionalized racism is. Just because it's not surface level does that mean it isn't there. The majority of the prison population is overwhelmingly African American. If you see economic inequality, it is alway african americans that are at the bottom of the economic scale. Are you implying this is because they're the problem. Seems to me like centuries of oppression and lack of opportunity has held back these communities for a long time. We still force the prison population into doing unpaid labor in many instances.
That example about rape is mad weird bro.
That is implying that POC are not part of these movements and it is only white people trying to control them. Beyond delusional.
if you think Joe Biden is left you need to fucking leave the country for a bit and look at what real "mildly" center left governments really look like. Your brains have been rotted by PragerU and Ben Shapiro.
Don't worry guys, Ted Cruz is coming to save you from pronouns and the black little mermaid.
That example about rape is mad weird bro.
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That is implying that POC are not part of these movements and it is only white people trying to control them. Beyond delusional.
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if you think Joe Biden is left you need to fucking leave the country for a bit and look at what real "mildly" center left governments really look like. Your brains have been rotted by PragerU and Ben Shapiro.
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Don't worry guys, Ted Cruz is coming to save you from pronouns and the black little mermaid.
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