Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1070 Spoilers Discussion

[RayanOO]

Post-Katakuri(YC1) fight Luffy vs Base Kaido

Luffy wasn’t using FS during the first clash. He was mad and rash.

The real post Kata fight Luffy with a clear head and FS would have done better

Kaido can’t os other YC1 like he did against first time Luffy

 

[Bogard]

These arguments don't work at all when talking about overall power. Maybe for specific feats, but not overall power.

By that logic, Apoo is Yonko level here

You're referring to a no-knowledge situation against hax. Has nothing to do with my raw speed(Kaido's thunder bagua speed), power comparisons(thunder bagua one shotting G4 Luffy)

 

[Meeyori]

Yamato is a Kurozumi @Meeyori , looks like O-Tama has company for the Flower Capital Annual BBQ.

more victims?

 

[sanjikun]

You're referring to a no-knowledge situation against hax. Has nothing to do with my raw speed(Kaido's thunder bagua speed), power comparisons(thunder bagua one shotting G4 Luffy)

We saw Luffy using FS to dodge Thunder Bagua in the rooftop. Clearly Katakuri can dodge it given that he can also disintegrate his body.

 

[Marvelous.Marvel]

He did harness Kizaru's power for lasers though. So he could possibly harness that for S-Croc.

So, there's no excuse here...

I got it... What if the remaining Seraphims are at Marie Geoise?

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

If Yamato is both Kaido's kid, and a Kurozumi, LMAO that would be so rich.

Ugh I hate that this is theoretically possible, even if it's making me laugh my ass off.

It's a really fun idea!

 

[Bogard]

Luffy wasn’t using FS during the first clash. He was mad and rash.

The real post Kata fight Luffy with a clear head and FS would have done better

Kaido can’t os other YC1 like he did against first time Luffy

If Kaido's thunder bagua lands, it does one shot Katakuri because Luffy had better endurance than Katakuri at that point, and Kaido not only is faster than Katakuri, but he also has future sight, and thus Katakuri will get one shotted if Kaido really wants it

 

[Albino 👑]

So he went to Impel Down to get a sample from Senor Pink? I'm assuming the same was done for Croc and Doffy.

I wonder what DF Gecko Moriah will get though... He was never in ID.

S gecko probably has his original fruit like s snake does
S crocodile likely doesn't have the sand fruit based on what vegapunk said about logia replication

 

[Julius]

Luffy wasn’t using FS during the first clash. He was mad and rash.

The real post Kata fight Luffy with a clear head and FS would have done better

Kaido can’t os other YC1 like he did against first time Luffy

Fax

Luffy says in this chapter that he got distracted and thats why Lucci managed to hit Sentomaru

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

@CoC: Color of Clowns

We get back to Wano, Yamato is getting off on boiling in a cauldron of oil while holding a very concerned Tama above her head.

Zoro rushes in, sweating and swearing.

Hiyori: "Oh my, I can't believe the man I love is racist!"

Jinbei glares at Hiyori while Sanji dives in to the pot and tosses out Yamato and Tama, before hurling the pot of boiling oil straight at Momo's face.

ACT 4, EVERYBODY

 

[RayanOO]

If Kaido's thunder bagua lands, it does one shot Katakuri because Luffy had better endurance than Katakuri at that point, and Kaido not only is faster than Katakuri, but he also has future sight, and thus Katakuri will get one shotted if Kaido really wants it

Kata can dodge snakeman and has a Df that allows shapeshift

Casual Kaido in Kuri is not one shotting Kata.

We saw it on the rooftop : Luffy using his head and FS could dodge the TB

Kata with better FS and shapeshift would dodge the same TB

Obviously Kaido being more serious with hybrid , drunk and even more FS can tag Kata and destroy him but not the Kaido that one shot distracted Luffy in Kuri

Kaido in base and casual cannot one shot a YC1

 

[Cross_Marian]

This is exactly why I dislike 90% of the OP fandom
People have watched/read OP for many years but are not real "fans" if they dislike or criticise something

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

If Kaido's thunder bagua lands, it does one shot Katakuri because Luffy had better endurance than Katakuri at that point, and Kaido not only is faster than Katakuri, but he also has future sight, and thus Katakuri will get one shotted if Kaido really wants it

To add the Luffy who fought Kaido at the begin of Onigashima raid was stronger than the Luffy in Kuri who faced Kaido.
Luffy was legit a inbetweener/low top tier when he faced Kaido in Onigashima, reaction speed was greater, YET base Kaido still target him and one shot him again, Luffy could barely escape thunder bagua...
Hybrid Kaido would speedblitz any YC1lvl character, we see against Lucci how great actually G5 and Hybrid Kaido speed are...

 

[Gol D. Roger]

The point is Kaido's raw speed >> Any YC1

Kaido with future sight >> Kaido's raw speed >> Any YC1 in speed

The Kaido, Luffy faced had all this, and thus can't be used as a metric for any YC1

On what basis are we concluding this? The metric for Kaido's speed is Luffy while the metric for Luffy's speed compared to a YC1 is Katakuri. Unsurprisingly, the metric for Katakuri's speed is again Luffy. We don't even know how consistent Kaido's FS is, and his speed is highly attack-specific. He blitzed Snakeman once and got hit like ten times, so you can't use an outlier to frame a rule. Besides, it's easy enough to close in the gap when a G4 form is attacking as it demands Luffy to stay in one place when he's stretching out his arms. That's why even base Cracker almost got him twice.

Ignoring all of that, Kaido hit G5 more times than any other gears, so G5 is actually Luffy's most vulnerable form. I don't see why we should assume it's better than other gears in all areas—especially speed.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

I love this meme so much

 

[pg13]

Lol Kizaru
Lmao Kizaru is mid diff without advCOC

What makes you think Oda will ever draw Luffy mid diffing an Admiral? When has he ever drawn someone mid Diffing an admiral in a 1v1 fight………

Never because we haven’t seen an admiral in a 1v1 fight. We’ve only seen Yonko. Which is probably why your disrespecting Kizaru but youlll be humbled soon

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

I love this meme so much

The first time I heard about Minority Hunter Zoro I was laughing my ass off, I had never even thought about it on any level. Zoro is so not racist, that the meme got me completely off guard.

Adding Hiyori to it just opens up a whole new world, LOL.

 

[Steven]

Yes

Was that confirmed?

 

[redtiger]

What makes you think Oda will ever draw Luffy mid diffing an Admiral? When has he ever drawn someone mid Diffing an admiral in a 1v1 fight………

Never because we haven’t seen an admiral in a 1v1 fight. We’ve only seen Yonko. Which is probably why your disrespecting Kizaru but youlll be humbled soon

High diff at best...just because Kizaru will dodge Luffy

 

[MonsterKaido]

Was that confirmed?

Black maria is a hoe. So high chance she was sleeping with Kaido