Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1070 Spoilers Discussion
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These arguments don't work at all when talking about overall power. Maybe for specific feats, but not overall power.
By that logic, Apoo is Yonko level here
By that logic, Apoo is Yonko level here
Luffy wasn’t using FS during the first clash. He was mad and rash.
The real post Kata fight Luffy with a clear head and FS would have done better
Kaido can’t os other YC1 like he did against first time Luffy
Luffy wasn’t using FS during the first clash. He was mad and rash.
The real post Kata fight Luffy with a clear head and FS would have done better
Kaido can’t os other YC1 like he did against first time Luffy
Fax
Luffy says in this chapter that he got distracted and thats why Lucci managed to hit Sentomaru
We get back to Wano, Yamato is getting off on boiling in a cauldron of oil while holding a very concerned Tama above her head.
Zoro rushes in, sweating and swearing.
Hiyori: "Oh my, I can't believe the man I love is racist!"
Jinbei glares at Hiyori while Sanji dives in to the pot and tosses out Yamato and Tama, before hurling the pot of boiling oil straight at Momo's face.
ACT 4, EVERYBODY
Zoro rushes in, sweating and swearing.
Hiyori: "Oh my, I can't believe the man I love is racist!"
Jinbei glares at Hiyori while Sanji dives in to the pot and tosses out Yamato and Tama, before hurling the pot of boiling oil straight at Momo's face.
ACT 4, EVERYBODY
Kata can dodge snakeman and has a Df that allows shapeshift
Casual Kaido in Kuri is not one shotting Kata.
We saw it on the rooftop : Luffy using his head and FS could dodge the TB
Kata with better FS and shapeshift would dodge the same TB
Obviously Kaido being more serious with hybrid , drunk and even more FS can tag Kata and destroy him but not the Kaido that one shot distracted Luffy in Kuri
Kaido in base and casual cannot one shot a YC1
Casual Kaido in Kuri is not one shotting Kata.
We saw it on the rooftop : Luffy using his head and FS could dodge the TB
Kata with better FS and shapeshift would dodge the same TB
Obviously Kaido being more serious with hybrid , drunk and even more FS can tag Kata and destroy him but not the Kaido that one shot distracted Luffy in Kuri
Kaido in base and casual cannot one shot a YC1
To add the Luffy who fought Kaido at the begin of Onigashima raid was stronger than the Luffy in Kuri who faced Kaido.
Luffy was legit a inbetweener/low top tier when he faced Kaido in Onigashima, reaction speed was greater, YET base Kaido still target him and one shot him again, Luffy could barely escape thunder bagua...
Hybrid Kaido would speedblitz any YC1lvl character, we see against Lucci how great actually G5 and Hybrid Kaido speed are...
Luffy was legit a inbetweener/low top tier when he faced Kaido in Onigashima, reaction speed was greater, YET base Kaido still target him and one shot him again, Luffy could barely escape thunder bagua...
Hybrid Kaido would speedblitz any YC1lvl character, we see against Lucci how great actually G5 and Hybrid Kaido speed are...
On what basis are we concluding this? The metric for Kaido's speed is Luffy while the metric for Luffy's speed compared to a YC1 is Katakuri. Unsurprisingly, the metric for Katakuri's speed is again Luffy. We don't even know how consistent Kaido's FS is, and his speed is highly attack-specific. He blitzed Snakeman once and got hit like ten times, so you can't use an outlier to frame a rule. Besides, it's easy enough to close in the gap when a G4 form is attacking as it demands Luffy to stay in one place when he's stretching out his arms. That's why even base Cracker almost got him twice.
Ignoring all of that, Kaido hit G5 more times than any other gears, so G5 is actually Luffy's most vulnerable form. I don't see why we should assume it's better than other gears in all areas—especially speed.
Ignoring all of that, Kaido hit G5 more times than any other gears, so G5 is actually Luffy's most vulnerable form. I don't see why we should assume it's better than other gears in all areas—especially speed.
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