Powers & Abilities The Astronomical Portrayal Gap between Shanks and Mihawk Part 1: The Bounties
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I don't think so
Well I am talking everything accounted
a)Mihawks feat happened as a result of shockwave accidentally. It was a point blank slash
B)Whitebeard seemed relatively angry while Mihawk was casual
c)Lethality aspect
d)Done purely physically without any devil fruit
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Well I am talking everything accounted
a)Mihawks feat happened as a result of shockwave accidentally. It was a point blank slash
B)Whitebeard seemed relatively angry while Mihawk was casual
c)Lethality aspect
d)Done purely physically without any devil fruit
Yeah my point exactly
Luffy and law got equal credit in both dressrosa and wano for being alied and taking down the big bads of each arc. With them receiving equal bounties in both cases because of that reason
The world government obviously knows that in both arcs that luffy's crew was significantly stronger and more of a threat.
Like i doubt law's crew had comparable bounties to the strawhats after dressrosa or even before tbh. Even moreso after wano and even more than that if you consider the fleet too
Luffy and law got equal credit in both dressrosa and wano for being alied and taking down the big bads of each arc. With them receiving equal bounties in both cases because of that reason
The world government obviously knows that in both arcs that luffy's crew was significantly stronger and more of a threat.
Like i doubt law's crew had comparable bounties to the strawhats after dressrosa or even before tbh. Even moreso after wano and even more than that if you consider the fleet too
That is all irrelevant because Shanks crew is mentioned in his bounty poster
Oda has fucked up bad in Luffy Law Kidd bounty there is no going around it because the sheer fact that CP0 Announced Luffy as sole Winner yet Low/Mid as Co Winners should automatically reduce Law and Kidds bounty by half of Luffys.
But their bounties really got assigned as leaders of alliance.
This will soon change tho..when Zoro gets next bounty probably around 3 Billon..he will raise Luffys bounty
Oda has fucked up bad in Luffy Law Kidd bounty there is no going around it because the sheer fact that CP0 Announced Luffy as sole Winner yet Low/Mid as Co Winners should automatically reduce Law and Kidds bounty by half of Luffys.
But their bounties really got assigned as leaders of alliance.
This will soon change tho..when Zoro gets next bounty probably around 3 Billon..he will raise Luffys bounty
Marco doesn't perceive Mihawk as a threat that he needs to handle himself, so he sends his underling to handle Mihawk.
Marco knows that an Admiral is a bigger threat.
Kaido has Shanks among his top 5 despite Mihawk allegedly having better sword skills than Shanks and WSS title
Whitebeard never once thought about Mihawk in marineford. Not a single thought.
Marco knows that an Admiral is a bigger threat.
Kaido has Shanks among his top 5 despite Mihawk allegedly having better sword skills than Shanks and WSS title
Whitebeard never once thought about Mihawk in marineford. Not a single thought.
I am not sure what any of this is supposed to mean?
How can Marco go and fight Mihawk when he's busy with Kizaru? Didn't Whitebeard leave Aokiji to Jozu lmao?
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Why would Kaido have Mihawk in his list when he's never fought him?
And this argument doesn't help lol, he literally doesn't have Garp or Akainu when he has literally fought Marines and gotten captured by thme.
Like at least Mihawk is out of Kaido's way.
Why doesn't he have Garp in there? Why not Aokiji?
Akainu?
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Why would he think about Mihawk? He's tryna save his son lol, he didn't think about Garp either until Garp started bitching and moaning and his men got scared. He damn sure didn't think about any of the admirals until they attacked him.
Whitebeard remembers Mihawk's duels, forget about remembering Mihawk himself. Did Whitebeard even know who Akainu was before coming to Marine Ford?
The same applied in dressrosa as well
And i know you're gonna disagree but ive said it before that imo 957 is listing what made each an emperor not what gave each their bounties
Each listing how they got their crews and how big a deal each is
Blackbeard:
Shanks:
Big mom:
Kaido:
Similar to how its luffy's crew and fleet that made him an emperor despite having the same bounty as kid and law. Even after wci it was the world government finding out about the fleet that gave luffy the inu 5th emperor title
Or how even in buggy's case its the wg misinterpreting how cross guild works and believing they all work under buggy is what made him an emperor
And i know you're gonna disagree but ive said it before that imo 957 is listing what made each an emperor not what gave each their bounties
Each listing how they got their crews and how big a deal each is
Blackbeard:
Shanks:
Big mom:
Kaido:
Similar to how its luffy's crew and fleet that made him an emperor despite having the same bounty as kid and law. Even after wci it was the world government finding out about the fleet that gave luffy the inu 5th emperor title
Or how even in buggy's case its the wg misinterpreting how cross guild works and believing they all work under buggy is what made him an emperor
Marco doesn't perceive Mihawk as a threat that he needs to handle himself, so he sends his underling to handle Mihawk.
Marco knows that an Admiral is a bigger threat.
Kaido has Shanks among his top 5 despite Mihawk allegedly having better sword skills than Shanks and WSS title
Whitebeard never once thought about Mihawk in marineford. Not a single thought.
Marco knows that an Admiral is a bigger threat.
Kaido has Shanks among his top 5 despite Mihawk allegedly having better sword skills than Shanks and WSS title
Whitebeard never once thought about Mihawk in marineford. Not a single thought.
Mihawk at top of his strength cannot cut a YC2.
Some people on here look like they are merely pretending.
Actually that is false
Mihawk was testing Whitebeard because he said "True Distance between that man and us seems rather small", that is the exact word for word translation and to test his theory he was inviting Whitebeard to a fight with casual nameless one handed stanceless Hakiless slash not meant to cut diamond.
I mean lets dive deeper into that. Do you think Zoro can cut Jozu with his conqueror's Haki? If not just how much more durable than Kaido and Lunara Mode King (more durable than Kaido) is Jozu?
Emperor level Law? Being Emperor level isn't exactly impressive and Law for the most part was portrayed as Zoro's minion, someone categorically weaker than Roof Top version of Zoro. He doesn't even compare to current Zoro, he would get instantly fodderized.
But anyways I am providing too much information for your limited neurological prowess to handle so I will just narrow it down.
Kinneon got hit point blank by serious Kaido's Conqueror's Haki attack and he survived
Just where exactly is Law saving him?
This Kinnemon is far far less durable than Punk Hazard Dragon who Zoro killed
So then Kaido's attacks are weaker than Punk Hazard Zoro.
Just how would he compete with Mihawk?
Is it at least reasonable to say, even if you disagree, that Mihawk is on a whole different level than Emperors?
Like at worst he might be comparable to Emperors but after chapter 1058 a case can be made for him being on a different level as well. Is that a fair assertion?
I didn't even inquire on this.
This is an example of struggle
Facial Expressions, bruises.
Another way struggle is shown is by screaming, sweating, signs of agitation.
Where is struggle shown here
I think Vista will do some major damage to Kaido if Kaido looked away from him like Mihawk is looking away. His reflexes despite having future sight are rather atrocious
Mihawk was testing Whitebeard because he said "True Distance between that man and us seems rather small", that is the exact word for word translation and to test his theory he was inviting Whitebeard to a fight with casual nameless one handed stanceless Hakiless slash not meant to cut diamond.
I mean lets dive deeper into that. Do you think Zoro can cut Jozu with his conqueror's Haki? If not just how much more durable than Kaido and Lunara Mode King (more durable than Kaido) is Jozu?
Emperor level Law? Being Emperor level isn't exactly impressive and Law for the most part was portrayed as Zoro's minion, someone categorically weaker than Roof Top version of Zoro. He doesn't even compare to current Zoro, he would get instantly fodderized.
But anyways I am providing too much information for your limited neurological prowess to handle so I will just narrow it down.
Kinneon got hit point blank by serious Kaido's Conqueror's Haki attack and he survived
Just where exactly is Law saving him?
This Kinnemon is far far less durable than Punk Hazard Dragon who Zoro killed
So then Kaido's attacks are weaker than Punk Hazard Zoro.
Just how would he compete with Mihawk?
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All I will say Mihawk can possibly solo 3 Admirals 
Like at worst he might be comparable to Emperors but after chapter 1058 a case can be made for him being on a different level as well. Is that a fair assertion?
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I didn't even inquire on this.
This is an example of struggle
Facial Expressions, bruises.
Another way struggle is shown is by screaming, sweating, signs of agitation.
Where is struggle shown here
I think Vista will do some major damage to Kaido if Kaido looked away from him like Mihawk is looking away. His reflexes despite having future sight are rather atrocious
Lowkey mihawk being a subordinate might boost his bounty more than shanks's crew boost his. Tho since it was just formed idk how exactly that works
Like a lot of the time a subordinates bounty will inflate because of the crew they're apart of. With it probably inflating more the stronger and more infamous their captain is
Like a lot of the time a subordinates bounty will inflate because of the crew they're apart of. With it probably inflating more the stronger and more infamous their captain is
Actually that is false
Mihawk was testing Whitebeard because he said "True Distance between that man and us seems rather small", that is the exact word for word translation and to test his theory he was inviting Whitebeard to a fight with casual nameless one handed stanceless Hakiless slash not meant to cut diamond.
I mean lets dive deeper into that. Do you think Zoro can cut Jozu with his conqueror's Haki? If not just how much more durable than Kaido and Lunara Mode King (more durable than Kaido) is Jozu?
Emperor level Law? Being Emperor level isn't exactly impressive and Law for the most part was portrayed as Zoro's minion, someone categorically weaker than Roof Top version of Zoro. He doesn't even compare to current Zoro, he would get instantly fodderized.
But anyways I am providing too much information for your limited neurological prowess to handle so I will just narrow it down.
Kinneon got hit point blank by serious Kaido's Conqueror's Haki attack and he survived
Just where exactly is Law saving him?
This Kinnemon is far far less durable than Punk Hazard Dragon who Zoro killed
So then Kaido's attacks are weaker than Punk Hazard Zoro.
Just how would he compete with Mihawk?
Is it at least reasonable to say, even if you disagree, that Mihawk is on a whole different level than Emperors?
Like at worst he might be comparable to Emperors but after chapter 1058 a case can be made for him being on a different level as well. Is that a fair assertion?
Mihawk was testing Whitebeard because he said "True Distance between that man and us seems rather small", that is the exact word for word translation and to test his theory he was inviting Whitebeard to a fight with casual nameless one handed stanceless Hakiless slash not meant to cut diamond.
I mean lets dive deeper into that. Do you think Zoro can cut Jozu with his conqueror's Haki? If not just how much more durable than Kaido and Lunara Mode King (more durable than Kaido) is Jozu?
Emperor level Law? Being Emperor level isn't exactly impressive and Law for the most part was portrayed as Zoro's minion, someone categorically weaker than Roof Top version of Zoro. He doesn't even compare to current Zoro, he would get instantly fodderized.
But anyways I am providing too much information for your limited neurological prowess to handle so I will just narrow it down.
Kinneon got hit point blank by serious Kaido's Conqueror's Haki attack and he survived
Just where exactly is Law saving him?
This Kinnemon is far far less durable than Punk Hazard Dragon who Zoro killed
So then Kaido's attacks are weaker than Punk Hazard Zoro.
Just how would he compete with Mihawk?
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Is it at least reasonable to say, even if you disagree, that Mihawk is on a whole different level than Emperors?
Like at worst he might be comparable to Emperors but after chapter 1058 a case can be made for him being on a different level as well. Is that a fair assertion?
This said, mihawk has shown very little feats and he was underwhelming in MF, this is undeniable. Portrayal of feats is below a lot of characters in univers.
He is being bult up a lot for what people say ABOUT him, but kaido doesn't see him at the level of Shanks or Oden, we could argue he never met him though.
With kinemon i thought you mean the stabbing, my bad.
Anyhow, this is endless.
I will say my usual.
Oda is non consisten in portrayal of strenght.
Kaido doesn't see mihawk as a top 5.
Mihawk bounty is lower that tops, and admiral are equals or above emperors, so we can say clearly that saying he is >> emperors is a stretch.
If he could solo admirals he wouldn't be a shichibukai.
He is at emperors level, along with other characters like Kaido, BB, Shanks, Admirals, Luffy , soon Zoro, Law, Kidd..
Now you are getting carried about and forcing me to insult you.
There is a level to tolerable disingenuity and dishonesty, stop being petty and accept your L like a man.
No Mihawk's bounty can not be boosted by Buggy as his bounty is above Buggy. How can someone make someone's bounty above his own through his clout.
Mihawk's presence was mentioned in Buggy's bounty, nothing was mentioned on Mihawk's bounty.
How can you deny the fucking manga so bad just to push your agenda?
There is a level to tolerable disingenuity and dishonesty, stop being petty and accept your L like a man.
No Mihawk's bounty can not be boosted by Buggy as his bounty is above Buggy. How can someone make someone's bounty above his own through his clout.
Mihawk's presence was mentioned in Buggy's bounty, nothing was mentioned on Mihawk's bounty.
How can you deny the fucking manga so bad just to push your agenda?
When did Mihawk mentioned, talk about, imply, refer to cutting diamond?
Show me panel and we can proceed with this discussion.
I would argue he has better feats than every Admiral besides Akainu and every Emperor besides Kaido, Whitebeard and Luffy so far.
Who gives a shit about Kaido? He never fought Mihawk.
Do you think Garp is weak too because Kaido never mentioned him? Kaido is talking about people he has fought in the past. Mihawk doesn't consider Kaido worthy of challenging him.
Issue is your arguments make no sense. Try to make some sense.
Show me panel and we can proceed with this discussion.
I would argue he has better feats than every Admiral besides Akainu and every Emperor besides Kaido, Whitebeard and Luffy so far.
Who gives a shit about Kaido? He never fought Mihawk.
Do you think Garp is weak too because Kaido never mentioned him? Kaido is talking about people he has fought in the past. Mihawk doesn't consider Kaido worthy of challenging him.
Issue is your arguments make no sense. Try to make some sense.
I was gonna say both are based on their known/believed individual feats and accomplishments but idk
Like we know inflation for emperor subordinates is a thing so while maybe it didn't apply to mihawk or even crocodile and everyone else idk
Like buggy being the believed leader of cross guild (mihawk included) is what made him an emperor yes but if it boosted the subordinates bounties i don't think we can 100% say yet
Like im sure the red haired pirates also got inflated bounties because of shanks
Like we know inflation for emperor subordinates is a thing so while maybe it didn't apply to mihawk or even crocodile and everyone else idk
Like buggy being the believed leader of cross guild (mihawk included) is what made him an emperor yes but if it boosted the subordinates bounties i don't think we can 100% say yet
Like im sure the red haired pirates also got inflated bounties because of shanks