Questions & Mysteries Why is Jinbe's bounty so low?

[Zenos7]

it´s you not comprehending a pretty straightforward statement.

Asking for a factual source is not arrogance

this is even funnier considering the latter literally followed the former lmfao.

Dude, it´s literally what the other guy stated, and that was my response. When he says that asking for a source it not very smart, what´s the consequence? Not asking is smart, hence my statement.
I did not overlook anything, it´s you not comprehending a pretty straightforward statement.
Asking for a factual source is not arrogance, hence my advise to try it.

See above.

A generalized statement it would be when i said on WG, the dude clearly stated asking for a source is stupid, and two people liked the comment, around here is a perfectly adequate response to that, referring to them.

The fact that you are trying to make it out to be something else while trying to sound incredibly smart is the ironic part.

First of all, good thing i never claimed that asking for scources is arrogance and i literally elaborated on this in the last post.

You clearly overlooked things, otherwise you wouldnt have misrepresented my statements :smithnie:


But i see you are already busting out the mental gymnastics to spin "around here" being a reference to the very select few people you could have meant. And if that was the case, why not try to clear it up with your very first reply to me? Or the second? Seems like you needed some time to make it up.

 

[Zenos7]

Forgive me please, the last thing I would want is to aggravate a child.

Now, if you want a serious answer: being most dangerous is relative. Might as well end the whole plot and the fights in the universe here if Robin is, because what is the point if she can grab the world government by the balls in any given time (no pun). She cannot.

the threat of poneglyphs being deciphered seems to be very serious for the WG though, otherwise they wouldnt have erased an entire island because of it.

 

[Natalija]

the threat of poneglyphs being deciphered seems to be very serious for the WG though, otherwise they wouldnt have erased an entire island because of it.

Yes. But most dangerous is a stretch. Clearly not even her bounty shows that.

 

[Zenos7]

Yes. But most dangerous is a stretch. Clearly not even her bounty shows that.

Her bounty was a decent amount (to say the least) for a child not even on the grandline

 

[Natalija]

Her bounty was a decent amount (to say the least) for a child not even on the grandline

And now compared to other monster pirates? Basically a joke.

Edit: this is what I mean by saying it's relative.

 

[KiriNigiri]

They likely chose Jinbe to be a Warlord relatively early. The WG planned on nabbing Ace early in his Pirate Career. A sign that they recognize his potential and asset. Same goes for Crocoboy and Hancock. Plus, Yonko executives bounties are inflated, as stated by Oda on an SbS.

 

[Natalija]

The WG planned on nabbing Ace early in his Pirate Career. A sign that they recognize his potential and asset.

Also because they can't just let the son of the most infamous pirate run around, it makes them look weak.

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Forgive me please, the last thing I would want is to aggravate a child.

Now, if you want a serious answer: being most dangerous is relative. Might as well end the whole plot and the fights in the universe here if Robin is, because what is the point if she can grab the world government by the balls in any given time (no pun). She cannot.

Stop trying to sound superior, it´s pretty pathetic.

Being dangerous depends on the one defining it.
Ancient Weapons are literally stated to be able to destroy the world, put two and two together.

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

this is even funnier considering the latter literally followed the former lmfao.



First of all, good thing i never claimed that asking for scources is arrogance and i literally elaborated on this in the last post.

You clearly overlooked things, otherwise you wouldnt have misrepresented my statements :smithnie:


But i see you are already busting out the mental gymnastics to spin "around here" being a reference to the very select few people you could have meant. And if that was the case, why not try to clear it up with your very first reply to me? Or the second? Seems like you needed some time to make it up.

Sure sure.

Telling you to try it at times is arrogant? Considering we had a few run-ins, it´s a well-meant advice.

Because you did not talk about a generalized statement before, but about surveys and whatnot, also did not talk about you thinking it was something referring to WG.
But if it makes you feel better, you can certainly think that.

 

[Natalija]

Stop trying to sound superior, it´s pretty pathetic.

Being dangerous depends on the one defining it.
Ancient Weapons are literally stated to be able to destroy the world, put two and two together.

I'm not, I'm hinting you you're behaving unnecessarily childish. Let's talk normally.

That is a far cry from anyone putting their hands on them, let alone Robin.

 

[Zenos7]

Telling you to try it at times is arrogant? Considering we had a few run-ins, it´s a well-meant advice.

I ask people for evidence all the time, thank you for your concerns though lmfao

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

I'm not, I'm hinting you you're behaving unnecessarily childish. Let's talk normally.

That is a far cry from anyone putting their hands on them, let alone Robin.

Like i said, i am simply stating something provided by the manga, you make fun of it without any argument, and then claim i am childish, c´mon.

The WG does not know that, which was your initial point. There is only one person in the entire world you can activate those things since the knowledge of the Ancient Language is needed (at least to find out where they are, might even be to use Pluton, we will see) and that´s Robin as stated. Maybe the so called three eyed clan can, but whether the WG even knows about them, or whether they even are capable, we will also see. Don´t forget even the Gorosei believed Pluton to be capable to completely end the Great Pirate Era (meaning also finish off the Yonkou), and hence have agreed with Spandam´s plan. We can discuss how realistic that is, but considering it is treated as such, for now we have to believe it.
Robin knows two of the three locations, while she could not influence Shirahoshi, the latter still follows Luffy, but nobody besides Neptune, Robin and Caribou even know what she is.
A similar argument can be made for Franky btw, albeit on a lesser degree, since he literally could have studied the blueprints of Pluton and can create it, or rather build one. Whether this is factual is secondary since the possibility is a huge threat.
So if the bounties are supposed to make any sense, i would put a huge bounty as possible on people like these to motivate strong bounty hunters (if they even exist, seems like this became quite irrelevant on a major scale) to catch them, knowing full well that their strength would not hold up.

 

[X18999]

If you put huge ass 1billion plus bounties on people without giving a plausible explaination why people are going to ask uncomfortable questions. They're going to want to know why this 8 year old girl is worth more than some of the most violent pirates in the world and if they catch her, force the awnsers out of her, then the World Govenment just shot itself in the foot with a battleship canon.

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

If you put huge ass 1billion plus bounties on people without giving a plausible explaination why people are going to ask uncomfortable questions. They're going to want to know why this 8 year old girl is worth more than some of the most violent pirates in the world and if they catch her, force the awnsers out of her, then the World Govenment just shot itself in the foot with a battleship canon.

Knowledge to destroy the world, they publicly stated the argument for the bounty.
Then they shoot themselves into the foot by giving her a bounty in the first place, since even a few million bounties is a huge sum for most people in One Piece world, if they catch her, the same still applies.
But someone only interested in money? Won´t ask stupid questions.

 

[Natalija]

Like i said, i am simply stating something provided by the manga, you make fun of it without any argument, and then claim i am childish, c´mon.

The WG does not know that, which was your initial point. There is only one person in the entire world you can activate those things since the knowledge of the Ancient Language is needed (at least to find out where they are, might even be to use Pluton, we will see) and that´s Robin as stated. Maybe the so called three eyed clan can, but whether the WG even knows about them, or whether they even are capable, we will also see. Don´t forget even the Gorosei believed Pluton to be capable to completely end the Great Pirate Era (meaning also finish off the Yonkou), and hence have agreed with Spandam´s plan. We can discuss how realistic that is, but considering it is treated as such, for now we have to believe it.
Robin knows two of the three locations, while she could not influence Shirahoshi, the latter still follows Luffy, but nobody besides Neptune, Robin and Caribou even know what she is.
A similar argument can be made for Franky btw, albeit on a lesser degree, since he literally could have studied the blueprints of Pluton and can create it, or rather build one. Whether this is factual is secondary since the possibility is a huge threat.
So if the bounties are supposed to make any sense, i would put a huge bounty as possible on people like these to motivate strong bounty hunters (if they even exist, seems like this became quite irrelevant on a major scale) to catch them, knowing full well that their strength would not hold up.

Not really, I gave up on discussing it because of what you said, but you wouldn't let it go, that was all

But thank you for elaborating.
I never ever said that they don't know this about Robin, or at least aren't aware of the possibility, that's clearly why she got her bounty in the first place. It's just about the level of dangerous. A lot of these things is speculation. IF the weapons exist IF they work IF someone can find them. It's similar to one piece, no one knows what it really is. In that sense it's a bit overblown to say aha Robin is among the most dangerous because of she knows/can read.

Who knows what Rayleigh knows or has seen - and it was implied he's seen it all - you don't see anyone panicking about that. If we're purely talking about knowledge.

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Not really, I gave up on discussing it because of what you said, but you wouldn't let it go, that was all

But thank you for elaborating.
I never ever said that they don't know this about Robin, or at least aren't aware of the possibility, that's clearly why she got her bounty in the first place. It's just about the level of dangerous. A lot of these things is speculation. IF the weapons exist IF they work IF someone can find them. It's similar to one piece, no one knows what it really is. In that sense it's a bit overblown to say aha Robin is among the most dangerous because of she knows/can read.

Who knows what Rayleigh knows or has seen - and it was implied he's seen it all - you don't see anyone panicking about that. If we're purely talking about knowledge.

But this is inconsistent with your first point. The WG does not only put bounties on things they definitely know, but think about and fear.
The Ancient Weapons do exist, Robin is the only one to revive them, these are facts. This is the Gorosei talking about it with Spandam, pretty much agreeing with him, and these guys know everything. https://v217.mangabeast.com/manga/One-Piece/0355-009.png

And Gorosei mentioned they do not consider him a threat since they do not believe he will be relevant for the course of the world since he has given up. Different from Robin who is part of the crew that directly opposed the World Government several times, was part of the Revos for 2 years, and actually has a personal reason to seek vendetta.

 

[Natalija]

But this is inconsistent with your first point. The WG does not only put bounties on things they definitely know, but think about and fear.
The Ancient Weapons do exist, Robin is the only one to revive them, these are facts. This is the Gorosei talking about it with Spandam, pretty much agreeing with him, and these guys know everything. https://v217.mangabeast.com/manga/One-Piece/0355-009.png

And Gorosei mentioned they do not consider him a threat since they do not believe he will be relevant for the course of the world since he has given up. Different from Robin who is part of the crew that directly opposed the World Government several times, was part of the Revos for 2 years, and actually has a personal reason to seek vendetta.

My point has always been that they don't know everything about everyone. Exactly that, they put bounties on what they think about and fear - doesn't mean it's always justified. Fear in general forms out of the unknown and wanting to control it. They obviously think this exists, again, doesn't mean it still does or does in that form, that single statement is very vague (as vague as one piece). But we will find out, I think it won't be a weapon in the obvious sense.

I'm sorry, but how exactly Roger's right hand DIDN'T oppose the government? It's the pirate king's crew, there is no way they didn't oppose the government, probably in worse ways.
So you're saying they judged that based on evaluating Rayleigh's character, and nothing else. If they're basing it off characters purely - Robin is a pretty tame kitten, and no wonder she doesn't have a monster bounty - they don't consider her THAT dangerous :D

Edit: it's probably worse that an uncontrollable and unpredictable person as Luffy has her on the crew, than her herself. He might actually do something crazy with what she would have gathered/learned

 

[Natalija]

I love how we turned Jimbe's bounty thread into Robin's. I'm sorry

 

[Finalbeta]

I love how we turned Jimbe's bounty thread into Robin's. I'm sorry

Hehehe that's because she is a Queen and far more interesting as a character

But nonetheless I respect Highlander Jinbe~

 

[Natalija]

Hehehe that's because she is a Queen and far more interesting as a character

I was going to state that very thing, but don't want to be a snob new forum member and also which character isn't more interesting than Jinbe