General & Others How disappointed would you be if the M3 didn’t fight Calamities?
- Thread starter Shiroyru
- Start date
I think it would be woeful writing, tbh. A colossal damp squib to what has been a storyline eight years (there's actually an argument to be made the entire series has built up to this in some respects) in the making.
I don't overly care whether they solo their opponents. If Jinbei fought Smoothie instead of Jack, I'd be a bit disappointed, but could live without that as a conclusion to his storyline with BM.
But the fights this arc should, 100%, be the Strawhats taking centre stage and defeating the Beast Pirates. And if Luffy can defeat Kaido, be that with help or not, then his crew should be able to accomplish the same feat respective to their individual levels.
Luffy vs Crocodile
Pell vs Mr 1
Chaka vs Mr 2
Zoro vs Mr 4
Luffy vs Lucci
Pauli vs Kaku
Tilestone vs Jabra
Zoro vs Kumadori
Sanji vs Fukuro
That's what a non ZSJ vs Calamities, non other Strawhats vs TR suggests to me. It would be garbage.
I know people will say, ah, but what about Dressrosa? That's the other big fighting arc. Fair enough, but even without half the crew Zoro beat the strongest subordinate there in Pica. Usopp took out the most important subordinate in Sugar. Franky beat the guy guarding the factory (a main objective of the arc), who had a claim to be the "best of the rest." Even Brook beat Jora before leaving the arc early. It's only Robin of the ones who stayed on Dressrosa that was shafted with fights, only getting to play backup to Kyros.
I don't overly care whether they solo their opponents. If Jinbei fought Smoothie instead of Jack, I'd be a bit disappointed, but could live without that as a conclusion to his storyline with BM.
But the fights this arc should, 100%, be the Strawhats taking centre stage and defeating the Beast Pirates. And if Luffy can defeat Kaido, be that with help or not, then his crew should be able to accomplish the same feat respective to their individual levels.
Luffy vs Crocodile
Pell vs Mr 1
Chaka vs Mr 2
Zoro vs Mr 4
Luffy vs Lucci
Pauli vs Kaku
Tilestone vs Jabra
Zoro vs Kumadori
Sanji vs Fukuro
That's what a non ZSJ vs Calamities, non other Strawhats vs TR suggests to me. It would be garbage.
I know people will say, ah, but what about Dressrosa? That's the other big fighting arc. Fair enough, but even without half the crew Zoro beat the strongest subordinate there in Pica. Usopp took out the most important subordinate in Sugar. Franky beat the guy guarding the factory (a main objective of the arc), who had a claim to be the "best of the rest." Even Brook beat Jora before leaving the arc early. It's only Robin of the ones who stayed on Dressrosa that was shafted with fights, only getting to play backup to Kyros.
We need to stop saying this, we have no idea how many arcs are left. We know how many plotlines are left though and the last 8 years or so has only been a minority compared to what is actually left to tell. All we have to go on is Oda's "Hope to finish in 5 years" left comment and he's been wrong nearly everytime he's made a story length claim. Now that "claim" is at like 4.2 years left, and we are about to be in Wano for at least another 2 years at this point. So unless everything after Kaido/BM is about to be summed up shorter than the entire length of Wano alone, it aint ending soon at all.
I'd drop (well, almost). WCI ending disappointed me so much that now i find it difficult to enjoy the serie, almost every chapter of Wano has been a torture for me.
When chapter 930 spoilers came out (the first spoilers were Sanji decides to use the RS on the first enemy he encountered because he wasn't strong enough or something similar) , i was the angriest i have ever been for a fictional story.
If Sanji doesn't fight Jack, Queen or King, I'd be too disappointed to continue. Drake would be good enough too, but i doubt he's going to fight alongside Kaido.
Of course I'd come back any now and then to read what is happening, but not with the same spirit and certainly not weekly.
When chapter 930 spoilers came out (the first spoilers were Sanji decides to use the RS on the first enemy he encountered because he wasn't strong enough or something similar) , i was the angriest i have ever been for a fictional story.
If Sanji doesn't fight Jack, Queen or King, I'd be too disappointed to continue. Drake would be good enough too, but i doubt he's going to fight alongside Kaido.
Of course I'd come back any now and then to read what is happening, but not with the same spirit and certainly not weekly.
How are any of those characters fodder?
the tobi roppo have better portrayal than Hawkins and Apoo. Kanjuro's DF is incredibly hax now that we know he is good at art.
There is literally zero set up for m3 vs the calamities. It is entirely based off of fandom headcanon powerlevels that don't even make sense in the manga. People have put there expectations so fucking high that some of y'all will rightfully be disappointed.
The fact of the matter is that the SH crew isn't on par with the beast pirates and won't be on par with the beast pirates post wano. There is literally nothing wrong with this. We still have an arc with the marines for the straw hats to prove their strength before they fight blackbeard.
We KNOW that Luffy will tag team Kaido. yet for some reason, it is some sort of a heresy on this sight to suggest that the m3 might not be as strong as the calamities.
honestly. It would be bad writing for all of the straw hats to take such immense leaps of power in one arc. It really makes much more sense to space out the power growth with the straw hats being a little bit weaker than a yonko crew post wano and becoming on par with them once Luffy beats akainu and the m3 beat the SSG.
But I don't care. I used to think the m3 would fight the calamities and if it happens, then I'm sure it will be hype. But there seems to be no build up for it, and it does't really make sense to me that Zoro and Law would fight them over Law and Kidd.
also the m3 not beating the calamities won't mean they will just disappear after their fights. Kaido will be a group effort. I think its honestly ridiculous that people are threatening to drop the manga if these stupid fanfic fights don't happen.
the tobi roppo have better portrayal than Hawkins and Apoo. Kanjuro's DF is incredibly hax now that we know he is good at art.
There is literally zero set up for m3 vs the calamities. It is entirely based off of fandom headcanon powerlevels that don't even make sense in the manga. People have put there expectations so fucking high that some of y'all will rightfully be disappointed.
The fact of the matter is that the SH crew isn't on par with the beast pirates and won't be on par with the beast pirates post wano. There is literally nothing wrong with this. We still have an arc with the marines for the straw hats to prove their strength before they fight blackbeard.
We KNOW that Luffy will tag team Kaido. yet for some reason, it is some sort of a heresy on this sight to suggest that the m3 might not be as strong as the calamities.
honestly. It would be bad writing for all of the straw hats to take such immense leaps of power in one arc. It really makes much more sense to space out the power growth with the straw hats being a little bit weaker than a yonko crew post wano and becoming on par with them once Luffy beats akainu and the m3 beat the SSG.
But I don't care. I used to think the m3 would fight the calamities and if it happens, then I'm sure it will be hype. But there seems to be no build up for it, and it does't really make sense to me that Zoro and Law would fight them over Law and Kidd.
also the m3 not beating the calamities won't mean they will just disappear after their fights. Kaido will be a group effort. I think its honestly ridiculous that people are threatening to drop the manga if these stupid fanfic fights don't happen.
You actually expect that the future WSS is going to leave wano, the land of swordsmen as anything less than the strongest swordsman in Wano?
Like seriously you are saying Oda wrote an arc about Swordsmen and he will end the arc with Zoro as like the 10th strongest swordsman in the arc? Like Jack king and queen are seemingly all swordsmen. Then Nekomamushi Inuarashi Shutenmaru Denjiro and Kawamatsu are all around the same level and they matchup with Jack. And then Zoro's main fight in this arc is with fuckin Who's who?
Like at best Zoro would be 8th strongest swordsman at the end of an arc about Swordsmen unless Hyogoro and kin'emon and kanjuro are also stronger than him. Incredible. What amazing thematic writing from Oda. World class.
:cheers:
Like seriously you are saying Oda wrote an arc about Swordsmen and he will end the arc with Zoro as like the 10th strongest swordsman in the arc? Like Jack king and queen are seemingly all swordsmen. Then Nekomamushi Inuarashi Shutenmaru Denjiro and Kawamatsu are all around the same level and they matchup with Jack. And then Zoro's main fight in this arc is with fuckin Who's who?
Like at best Zoro would be 8th strongest swordsman at the end of an arc about Swordsmen unless Hyogoro and kin'emon and kanjuro are also stronger than him. Incredible. What amazing thematic writing from Oda. World class.
:cheers:
Are you suggesting that Zoro will become the world's strongest swordsman by Wano's end?
So are you saying that if Zoro was in WCI, he would have fought Katakuri over Luffy? If Zoro was in marineford, would he have fought Kizaru? You're logic doesn't make sense. comparing wano to dressrosa is like comparing apples to oranges.
Luffy entered this arc on the same level as King and got 1 shot by Kaido. This isn't dressrosa...
also, about plot. Why does plot require Zoro to beat King?
So are you saying that if Zoro was in WCI, he would have fought Katakuri over Luffy? If Zoro was in marineford, would he have fought Kizaru? You're logic doesn't make sense. comparing wano to dressrosa is like comparing apples to oranges.
Luffy entered this arc on the same level as King and got 1 shot by Kaido. This isn't dressrosa...
also, about plot. Why does plot require Zoro to beat King?
