General & Others How disappointed would you be if the M3 didn’t fight Calamities?

How disappointed would you be?


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#41
Are you suggesting that Zoro will become the world's strongest swordsman by Wano's end?



So are you saying that if Zoro was in WCI, he would have fought Katakuri over Luffy? If Zoro was in marineford, would he have fought Kizaru? You're logic doesn't make sense. comparing wano to dressrosa is like comparing apples to oranges.

Luffy entered this arc on the same level as King and got 1 shot by Kaido. This isn't dressrosa...

also, about plot. Why does plot require Zoro to beat King?
well ... 2nd strongest in wano is Big Mom

so ... Zoro Vs Big Mom ... good ... we gonna see Zoro death soon then

p.s

big mom is a swordswoman as well ... so ... no deny as well on Zoro fandom part :)

p.s

I know they would deny anyways
 
#42
Are you suggesting that Zoro will become the world's strongest swordsman by Wano's end?
Can you read the first paragraph. The one that goes "in the land of swordsmen, Zoro would leave Wano as anything besides the strongest swordsman in wano"

I mean it's literally the first paragraph

Like Oda creates WCI the land of food and makes it a point that Sanji is clearly down to be the best cook in the entire country of cooks and yet Sanji‘s dream isn't even to be the best cook or anything

And then Oda creates Wano the land of swordsmen and makes it a point that the guy who wants to be the best swordsman is around 10th best.

Ahhhh.... themes are for pussies indeed
 
#43
How are any of those characters fodder?
If you don't like this word, then weaklings for M3 sounds right.
the tobi roppo have better portrayal than Hawkins and Apoo. Kanjuro's DF is incredibly hax now that we know he is good at art.
And all of this is irrelevant and don't tell me anything.
There is literally zero set up for m3 vs the calamities. It is entirely based off of fandom headcanon powerlevels that don't even make sense in the manga. People have put there expectations so fucking high that some of y'all will rightfully be disappointed.
But somehow there is set-up for them to fight F6 or whoever you want. Based on this, Straw Hats, beside Luffy, won't fight anyone, cuz there is "no set-up for him to fight him!!!"
The fact of the matter is that the SH crew isn't on par with the beast pirates and won't be on par with the beast pirates post wano. There is literally nothing wrong with this. We still have an arc with the marines for the straw hats to prove their strength before they fight blackbeard.
This arc is your headcannon tho. We don't know what's gonna happen after Wano, and i doubt it would be anything that involves Marines.
We KNOW that Luffy will tag team Kaido. yet for some reason, it is some sort of a heresy on this sight to suggest that the m3 might not be as strong as the calamities.
Maybe because Kaido is TIERS above Luffy? By only logic, New M3 is on YC level, 3 or 2. Luffy is not on Yonko/Admiral level, this would be absurd. So why should M3 tag-team someone, who's not gonna Low/Mid-Diff them? Especially when we have Zoro, who won't tag-team swordsman, who King is.
honestly. It would be bad writing for all of the straw hats to take such immense leaps of power in one arc. It really makes much more sense to space out the power growth with the straw hats being a little bit weaker than a yonko crew post wano and becoming on par with them once Luffy beats akainu and the m3 beat the SSG
Sure, sure, Enies Lobby was soooo bad, yeah? And lol at defeating Akainu that early. Let them announce a war against WG, then fight Admirals. And fucking lol at SSG, what makes you think that they are THAT strong? That they are on YC1 and etc level? What if they are strong mostly because of quantity and not quality? How they will prove themselves to be on YC1/YC2 level? We know that King/Queen/Jack on that level, and how SSG will prove that? By doing what?
But I don't care. I used to think the m3 would fight the calamities and if it happens, then I'm sure it will be hype. But there seems to be no build up for it, and it does't really make sense to me that Zoro and Law would fight them over Law and Kidd.
And it makes sense for M3 to fight "weaklings for M3" that i listed above?
also the m3 not beating the calamities won't mean they will just disappear after their fights. Kaido will be a group effort. I think its honestly ridiculous that people are threatening to drop the manga if these stupid fanfic fights don't happen.
And so? To injure Kaido, you need something special. Luffy has AdCoA, Law has his DF, Kidd, well, don't know. Neither Zoro nor Sanji will harm him without having something special. And how they will get it fighting "weaklings for M3"?
 
#44
Can you read the first paragraph. The one that goes "in the land of swordsmen, Zoro would leave Wano as anything besides the strongest swordsman in wano"

I mean it's literally the first paragraph

Like Oda creates WCI the land of food and makes it a point that Sanji is clearly down to be the best cook in the entire country of cooks and yet Sanji‘s dream isn't even to be the best cook or anything

And then Oda creates Wano the land of swordsmen and makes it a point that the guy who wants to be the best swordsman is around 10th best.

Ahhhh.... themes are for pussies indeed
Big Mom is the strongest swordsman in Wano


p.s

I don't really care for Zoro > King

but calling Zoro fighting 2nd strongest is PLOT is just wrong

it's at it best "FAN SERVICE "
 
#45
So are you saying that if Zoro was in WCI, he would have fought Katakuri over Luffy? I
What are you talking about if? I did not say if anything. I said plot decides these things. Zoro wasn't in any of these things as dictated by plot.

The last 1000 chapters have dictated what Zoro does in the plots he's put in and I have no reason to suspect that's going to change now just because Law or kid are around
 
#46
Like Oda creates WCI the land of food and makes it a point that Sanji is clearly down to be the best cook in the entire country of cooks and yet Sanji‘s dream isn't even to be the best cook or anything
are you saying that becoming the best cook is on par with surpassing Mihawk?
Ahhhh.... themes are for pussies indeed
I don't even think you understand what a theme is. Zoro beating the 2nd strongest swordsman of wano, which is arguably big mom, isn't a theme, its a fan theory.
 
#48
are you saying that becoming the best cook is on par with surpassing Mihawk?


I don't even think you understand what a theme is. Zoro beating the 2nd strongest swordsman of wano, which is arguably big mom, isn't a theme, its a fan theory.
You are trying to compare the "Scale of themes" and you are saying that I don't understand themes? Are you kidding me? You are literally trying to compare Cooking to beating mihawk like on plot relevance or power scaling relevance and then you claim to understand what themes are? Because themes are measured on top of each other because of plot relevance and power scaling. Like I guess I should care less about the themes about bravery and fantasy that surround Ussop and his dream because I guess being brave doesn't make you top tier. That's how themes work. Because head canon power scaling allows you to gauge themes along one another. Fuckin incredible. Teach me more about themes oh wise one
 
#49
How disappointed would you be if Zoro vs King, Sanji vs Queen, and Jinbe vs Jack don’t happen and they instead fight Tobi Roppo?

@TheAncientCenturion @Bogard @Garp the Fist @Jiihad @ZenZu @Admiral Lee Hung @Topi Jerami @Rosella.Fiamingo @Light D Lamperouge @Red Admiral @Jo_Ndule @ShishioIsBack @MonsterZoro @Chrono
Sanji isn't in the monster 3 anymore he's retired. Monster trio is Luffy/Jinbe/Zoro since Jinbe's return and now permanent stay. Sanji couldn't beat Pay Pay, he's not scratching Queen who took two shots from Big Mom, a Yonko. Come back if/when he beats Pay Pay the Brat.

OT: I'd be pretty disappointed if Luffy/Jinbe/Zoro didn't.
 
#50
Big Mom is the strongest swordsman in Wano


p.s

I don't really care for Zoro > King

but calling Zoro fighting 2nd strongest is PLOT is just wrong

it's at it best "FAN SERVICE "
You mean Oda has been giving us 1000 chapters of fan service. Okay.

The arc villain is Kaido. His second strongest is king. The strongest swordsman among the arc villains is king. The guy who has been in Wano for 25 years+.

But I guess Zoro will be 10th best swordman. It's fine.
 
#57
And all of this is irrelevant and don't tell me anything.
So do you want to argue over manga facts or headcanon?
This arc is your headcannon tho. We don't know what's gonna happen after Wano, and i doubt it would be anything that involves Marines.
How is this my headcanon? Do you think that Akainu is stronger than prime blackbeard? Do you think he is stronger than Imu or the gorosei? Because unless you think that is true, then he will most likely fall sometime after wano but before blackbeard

You mean Oda has been giving us 1000 chapters of fan service. Okay.

The arc villain is Kaido. His second strongest is king. The strongest swordsman among the arc villains is king. The guy who has been in Wano for 25 years+.

But I guess Zoro will be 10th best swordman. It's fine.
You're not proving any points. You're just regurgitating the same headcanons over and over again and acting passive aggressive because I don't agree with them.
You are literally trying to compare Cooking to beating mihawk like on plot relevance or power scaling relevance
No. You were trying to do that. You're argument was that if Sanji was the best cook of WCI, Zoro should be the best swordsman of Wano.
 
#60
- Pre-timeskip SH crew said that Luffy always pushes himself BEYOND expectation and their mentality was to use the timeskip to get stronger because they do not wanna hold Luffy back!
However, Pre-timeskip, the SH crew always managed to fight the commanders under the boss and win...

Post-timeskip, after their supposed morale boost about training to never hold Luffy back.. the crew ends up not being able to compete with commanders of enemy.. yeah.. surely disappointing no matter what angle you'll try to justify it
 
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