General & Others How disappointed would you be if the M3 didn’t fight Calamities?
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This isnt me COMPARING. you are the one who used the words "ON PAR" that's comparisons being made.
I brought up Sanji because that a theme coming full circle. I did not bring it up as a comparison about power scaling or plot relevance.
I can literally say the exact same thing about Luffy in Skypiea. Oda creates an arc about religion and a Meniacal God tyrant and then Luffy "the natural enemy of god" Demolishes him specfically because Luffy has the NATURAL COUNTER to GOD.
Have you never seen a theme coming full circle in One piece. Like ever? Have you read 1000 chapters and all you see is flashy pictures? Like Oda never actually thinks about actual meaning in the stories he writes? TF?
Now are you gonna say I'm comparing Enel to mihawk just because I used that as an example of a theme being made?
Like did I use any comparison words between Enel and Mihawk? Please for gods sake
I brought up Sanji because that a theme coming full circle. I did not bring it up as a comparison about power scaling or plot relevance.
I can literally say the exact same thing about Luffy in Skypiea. Oda creates an arc about religion and a Meniacal God tyrant and then Luffy "the natural enemy of god" Demolishes him specfically because Luffy has the NATURAL COUNTER to GOD.
Have you never seen a theme coming full circle in One piece. Like ever? Have you read 1000 chapters and all you see is flashy pictures? Like Oda never actually thinks about actual meaning in the stories he writes? TF?
Now are you gonna say I'm comparing Enel to mihawk just because I used that as an example of a theme being made?
Like did I use any comparison words between Enel and Mihawk? Please for gods sake
Zoro have done nothing for plot so far but saving Luffy from a guy who most likely didn't wanted to kill him to begin with ... Kuma saved Luffy himself
so yeap ... he never had a fight that be important to plot ... any body he beat could be beaten by other members of the crew or Luffy himself ....
so ... yeap ...
Zoro can maybe beat King after some bad shit crazy shit fight ... he is good for being bad ass
all I'm saying ... that fight is a fan service ... not PLOT
giving Kaido a scar ... now that's plot ... maybe ... depend on effect ... but still more of a plot than beating a guy who so far was random
so yeap ... he never had a fight that be important to plot ... any body he beat could be beaten by other members of the crew or Luffy himself ....
so ... yeap ...
Zoro can maybe beat King after some bad shit crazy shit fight ... he is good for being bad ass
all I'm saying ... that fight is a fan service ... not PLOT
giving Kaido a scar ... now that's plot ... maybe ... depend on effect ... but still more of a plot than beating a guy who so far was random
Oh I'm not passive aggressive. I'm fully aggressive. I just don't use Curse words. But if you can understand what I'm saying you can bey clearly tell I'm very aggressive.
And if you want me to say something different, then actually address a point I made. Because if you just repeat a thing I will also respond with a repeated statement
And if you want me to say something different, then actually address a point I made. Because if you just repeat a thing I will also respond with a repeated statement
And what manga says? They have better hype that Hawkins and Apoo, and what should it tell to me?
1) No, I don't, Prime BB > Akainu
2) Yes, I do, Akainu > Im and Gorosei.
3) I don't think that Luffy will fight Akainu at all, I'd like Sabo to fight him. But since I don't think that Im and Gorosei are that strong, then Luffy is the obvious choice.
4) You still haven't answered me about SSG, I would like to read your opinion.
5) Even if Luffy defeats Akainu, you think other Admirals will do nothing about it? And why SSG?
1) No, I don't, Prime BB > Akainu
2) Yes, I do, Akainu > Im and Gorosei.
3) I don't think that Luffy will fight Akainu at all, I'd like Sabo to fight him. But since I don't think that Im and Gorosei are that strong, then Luffy is the obvious choice.
4) You still haven't answered me about SSG, I would like to read your opinion.
5) Even if Luffy defeats Akainu, you think other Admirals will do nothing about it? And why SSG?
lol ... you want to teach me about plot ... that would be interesting 
- the main events of a play, novel, film, or similar work, devised and presented by the writer as an interrelated sequence.
- Plot is known as the foundation of a novel or story, around which the characters and settings are built. It is meant to organize information and events in a logical manner. When writing the plot of a piece of literature, the author has to be careful that it does not dominate the other parts of the story.
- Plot is a literary term used to describe the events that make up a the main part of a story. These events relate to each other in a pattern or a sequence
(if you want I can give you a two hour long explanation for plot as well ... maybe you need it)
there is nothing "main" about Zoro fighting King ... that fight don't have a big effect on main story ... and maybe can be deleted and story would be fine ...
in fact all beast and BMP can be deleted form Wano arc ... cause beating Kaido and Big Mom is the main event of the arc and everything that hold value ... they like 90% of fire power for Kaido's side
Zoro himself don't matter for plot so far ... let alone his fight Vs King
- the main events of a play, novel, film, or similar work, devised and presented by the writer as an interrelated sequence.
- Plot is known as the foundation of a novel or story, around which the characters and settings are built. It is meant to organize information and events in a logical manner. When writing the plot of a piece of literature, the author has to be careful that it does not dominate the other parts of the story.
- Plot is a literary term used to describe the events that make up a the main part of a story. These events relate to each other in a pattern or a sequence
(if you want I can give you a two hour long explanation for plot as well ... maybe you need it)
there is nothing "main" about Zoro fighting King ... that fight don't have a big effect on main story ... and maybe can be deleted and story would be fine ...
in fact all beast and BMP can be deleted form Wano arc ... cause beating Kaido and Big Mom is the main event of the arc and everything that hold value ... they like 90% of fire power for Kaido's side
Zoro himself don't matter for plot so far ... let alone his fight Vs King
What point? There is nothing thematic about Zoro beating king. Zoro doesn't need to be the best swordsman in wano. he just needs to be the best swordsman EoS and there is still many arcs left before EoS.
I fail to see the connection between wano being an arc of swordsmen and zoro leaving wano as the strongest swordsman. I don't think Sanji's cooking in WCI can be compared to Zoro's swordsmanship.
Sanji's cooking was largely seen as a useless skill and WCI was an arc where Oda went out of his way to show how important it was by having Sanji essentially save an entire nation with his cooking abilities. Sanji's kindness was a theme throughout the arc. He is such a good person that he will go out of his way even to save his enemies.
What theme would be fulfilled by having Zoro beat King? that Zoro is strong? Wano being an arc of samurai doesn't mean that Zoro needs to beat the strongest swordsman in wano, no more than Sanji needing to have a fight in WCI because "year of sanji" or something.
Perhaps the character development zoro will get in wano will be that he, who was more or less able to walk through the new world ease free, will get utterly destroyed by Kaido. He will try to cut Kaido in his strongest form and fail miserably. Kaido would beat the utter shit out of him and break his sword.
this would then be a springboard for him becoming even stronger in the future arcs.
I fail to see the connection between wano being an arc of swordsmen and zoro leaving wano as the strongest swordsman. I don't think Sanji's cooking in WCI can be compared to Zoro's swordsmanship.
Sanji's cooking was largely seen as a useless skill and WCI was an arc where Oda went out of his way to show how important it was by having Sanji essentially save an entire nation with his cooking abilities. Sanji's kindness was a theme throughout the arc. He is such a good person that he will go out of his way even to save his enemies.
What theme would be fulfilled by having Zoro beat King? that Zoro is strong? Wano being an arc of samurai doesn't mean that Zoro needs to beat the strongest swordsman in wano, no more than Sanji needing to have a fight in WCI because "year of sanji" or something.
Perhaps the character development zoro will get in wano will be that he, who was more or less able to walk through the new world ease free, will get utterly destroyed by Kaido. He will try to cut Kaido in his strongest form and fail miserably. Kaido would beat the utter shit out of him and break his sword.
this would then be a springboard for him becoming even stronger in the future arcs.
Maybe Smoothie (since he has beef with BMPs)
Or maybe Oda makes him one of the Squad members against Big Mom... since he knows too much about her... probably he's one of the BEST CHOICES as a team member against Big Mom with his power snd knowledge about her...
Or maybe a different option.... but generally... Oda needs to make all 3 have great feats comparable to YC levels... If he doesn't do that... I call this stupid...
Or maybe Oda makes him one of the Squad members against Big Mom... since he knows too much about her... probably he's one of the BEST CHOICES as a team member against Big Mom with his power snd knowledge about her...
Or maybe a different option.... but generally... Oda needs to make all 3 have great feats comparable to YC levels... If he doesn't do that... I call this stupid...
Smoothie might be the one, i have trouble matching her up vs anyone tbh. The dukes are separated from rest of the minks so it seems they will have their own fight, probably Jack. Which leaves Jinbe vs Smoothie, unless Oda wants to lower our hype and puts him vs Snack (pls no). But then again, him playing part in BMs downfall sounds better to me
Amazing writing, and I'll be praising Oda.
- Zoro Is going to fight an enemy who's Level is at best around Snack one ( who got defeated by Urogue 1 arc ago).
- Luffy is going to defeat Kaido, maybe even Big Mom
- the rest of the crew will fight people like Holdem level.
And after Wano We are reaching the end ( Author's word).
- Zoro Is going to fight an enemy who's Level is at best around Snack one ( who got defeated by Urogue 1 arc ago).
- Luffy is going to defeat Kaido, maybe even Big Mom
- the rest of the crew will fight people like Holdem level.
And after Wano We are reaching the end ( Author's word).