Theory Sukuna theories

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I previously talked about how I believe Sukuna had a twin and him consuming that twin is the result of his new appearance.

Many implications and theories are coming to mind. There's no way it was just a throwaway comment by Kenny.

I am trying to tie it all together. But coming up short.

What pops to mind is that theory that Sukuna is a set of conjoined twins. Thus giving him the 4 arms and multiple faces. Even the real life myth of Sukuna speaks of that.

What if someway somehow Tengen is the other twin? He lost his body because it was consumed by his brother Sukuna and now needs to merge with vessels because of that? While his body is gone and in possession of Sukuna, his mind, spirit, traversed and is the Tengen we now know? That would explain Kenny's teasing imo. Like look at you. Been through all that to now look like your brother after consuming you.

And Sukuna is touted as the fallen because he ate his brother, or betrayed Tengen, in case I am off the mark with the twins theory.

Sukuna doesn't seem like the guy that would lead people, he's like Gojo, best when he's alone imo, but Tengen can be a different story. His preaching probably attracted followers. What makes me think that is the fact that he knew of Angel's CT.

She most likely was a follower of Tengen's, if what I am saying is on the mark, and that's why she's after Sukuna, the fallen now.
Imo they could have been in like a guild, or band or something, and that's how they know each other and stuff. Probably others like Kenny and Uraume as well.

Another possibility is the same as this bar Tengen being the twin. Sukuna could have simply been another follower that then betrayed them, might have even taken Tengen's body and merged with it and thus resulting in his new form.


Among other possibilities are that Sukuna is the result of the previous Culling Game in which both Kenny and Tengen were involved.

Just throwing some ideas out there.


I wanted to elaborate a bit on it and see if we can tie it up. Searching for stuff online led me to some posts and this book that is apparently used by Gege to model Sukuna on. And in there there was an excerpt about Sukuna and his origin.

It basically went like this

Sukuna used to have a twin. Siamese twin to be precise. But he ate him.

A Siamese twin was born to a poor family, who later sold them to a freak show. One day, a cult leader named Mononobe Tengoku purchased several malformed humans, including the Siamese twins from the freak show. Mononobe was fascinated by the twins and kept them in a room without food or water until one of the twins killed and ate the other. Mononobe then attached the arms of the deceased twin to the surviving twin and half of their face. The resulting creature was named Ryomen Sukuna.

That will be Sukuna's origin. He was a nobody, a freak, sold to the circus, and ate his brother. That's how he got the appetite for eating humans in the first place.


Now the origin doesn't have to be the exact same as the above. A more interesting proposal for me is that Sukuna as he is now is the result of the first culling game. The circus=culling game, the cult leader=Kenjaku/Tengen

Sukuna and his twin were in the first culling game and Sukuna was forced to eat his brother for an unknown reason thus far. Probably to win the game or something akin to that.


And the result of all of that is the Sukuna as we know him today. Specifically his full form as shown in chapter 117

And looking at the pic, and after a lot of research and surfing on the net, I think Sukuna's next CT will be thunder related. Probably a thunder arrow to go with the bow he is holding.

His abilities correspond to old myths from a book that Gege mentioned previously.

In the book Ryomen Sukuna is depicted having four arms, using two swords and two bows. I think the swords correspond to Cleave and Dismantle, and the two bows correspond to the Fire Arrow and an eventual Thunder Arrow.


The trident that he is holding is associated with Shiva. That's where his fire arrow tech comes from.


The bow is Indra's weapon.


And I think this was also foreshadowed in chapter 12. Yuji mentions fire and thunder. We already know now Sukuna can fire fire arrows.



Anyway thoughts guys? And share any other interesting Sukuna theories you have here.



 
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Umm, where is the bow? I can see the spear in one of his right hands, and a vajra in one of his left.
Sorry I wrote it quickly so it might have been unclear/mixed up. The other bow is the vajra.
In the book Ryomen Sukuna is depicted having four arms, using two swords and two bows. I think the swords correspond to Cleave and Dismantle, and the two bows correspond to the Fire Arrow and an eventual Thunder Arrow.
Swords-cleave and dismantle

one bow-trident

other bow-vajra
 

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#5
I remembered someone on reddit write the name of the weapon once so it immediately stuck out

No worries
I couldn't remember the exact word. I know I heard of it before, think it was in Naruto or something lol.
 
#6
- Regarding Sukuna, I subscribe to the twin theory at least in essence - he had a twin. But what happened to them is something I'm still unsure about.

- As for his techniques, him being a cannibal has got to play a part in the CT acquiring process. The safest bet would be he gets the technique through the consumption of the whole body (body=soul), but there are bound to be some jujutsu shenanigans surrounding it.
 

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- As for his techniques, him being a cannibal has got to play a part in the CT acquiring process. The safest bet would be he gets the technique through the consumption of the whole body (body=soul), but there are bound to be some jujutsu shenanigans surrounding it.
One thing I don't like about it is that it would basically be a Yuta lol. So far it's been implied that Yuta copies CTs by having Rika eat something of the CTs owner.


Sukuna might have a stealing CT or something like that and stores the CTs he steals in the black spaces/boxes. Before he attacks Jogo with the flames he says OPEN and there's a black box there firstly


The interesting part for me is that he says he won't reveal his CT tho
 

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#11
If Sukuna has a stealing CT or method to steal someone's CT I believe he will steal Kashimo's CT.

Kashimo's CT has to be something very impressive since it can only be used once. Sukuna and Kashimo should have a fight, and Sukuna probably steals the CT from him.
 
#12
One thing I don't like about it is that it would basically be a Yuta lol. So far it's been implied that Yuta copies CTs by having Rika eat something of the CTs owner.


Sukuna might have a stealing CT or something like that and stores the CTs he steals in the black spaces/boxes. Before he attacks Jogo with the flames he says OPEN and there's a black box there firstly


The interesting part for me is that he says he won't reveal his CT tho
Ironically enough I don't like the theory that Rika has to eat something/anything of the target to copy the technique

There are surely conditions, but they could be way simpler than that like experiencing an attack from the technique or smt similar (not saying this is it btw, just spitballing)
 

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Ironically enough I don't like the theory that Rika has to eat something/anything of the target to copy the technique
Yeah I think I saw you mention it. But it's heavily implied

Now I actually think this might be a red herring, cuz it would have been explicitly confirmed by Gege imo if it was that.

But however I can see it as a parallel too lol. The King and the Queen of Curses being able to copy CTs by consuming the wielders.


There are surely conditions, but they could be way simpler than that like experiencing an attack from the technique or smt similar (not saying this is it btw, just spitballing)
Yeah absolutely. Tho I think it should be something a bit more difficult cuz it's too op lol.
 
#14
A Siamese twin was born to a poor family, who later sold them to a freak show. One day, a cult leader named Mononobe Tengoku purchased several malformed humans, including the Siamese twins from the freak show. Mononobe was fascinated by the twins and kept them in a room without food or water until one of the twins killed and ate the other. Mononobe then attached the arms of the deceased twin to the surviving twin and half of their face. The resulting creature was named Ryomen Sukuna.
Now the origin doesn't have to be the exact same as the above. A more interesting proposal for me is that Sukuna as he is now is the result of the first culling game. The circus=culling game, the cult leader=Kenjaku/Tengen
:christindeed: good thread. it already is a great backstory but I believe Gege gonna add few more twisted origins in there.
 

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:christindeed: good thread. it already is a great backstory but I believe Gege gonna add few more twisted origins in there.
Thanks. Yeah I think it's deffo an interesting one, and yeah I expect Gege to embellish it a bit in his own way.
 

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Wanna throw another theory out there.


Yuji is Sukuna's twin. That is Yuji is made up of the remnants of Sukuna's twin. Or the other half of Sukuna.


Through Mai and Maki Zenin we see how CT/CE/Jujutsu treats identical twins. And I do not think this was a plot just for the two of them but rather for the wider scope of the series.

Yuji and Sukuna no matter how you look at it look quite similar.


Sukuna comments on Yuji being from that time

Yuji's physicals are on a level of their own. Kinda like the Heavenly restricted people.


Why does Sukuna think Kenjaku does the grossest things?

Cuz Kenjaku used the remnants of Sukuna's own twin to create a vessel that can suppress Sukuna.

Why can Yuji do it?
Why does Yuji have no CT?
Why do Yuji and Sukuna look so much alike?
Why did Sukuna call Yuji a guy from that time?
Why is that gross to Sukuna?

Cuz Yuji is his twin, in essence. :endthis:


Sukuna - Mai in this context, aka got the cursed technique
Yuji - Maki in this context, aka got the heavenly physicals


Upon Sukuna assimilating and most likely consuming his twin, he evolved to the levels he is now, just like when Maki lost Mai she evolved further.

:endthis:



Some perhaps interested parties.

@notAfanboy @ConquistadoR @NikaInParis @MonochromeYoru @Marimo_420 @L55 etc etc
 
#17
Wanna throw another theory out there.


Yuji is Sukuna's twin. That is Yuji is made up of the remnants of Sukuna's twin. Or the other half of Sukuna.


Through Mai and Maki Zenin we see how CT/CE/Jujutsu treats identical twins. And I do not think this was a plot just for the two of them but rather for the wider scope of the series.

Yuji and Sukuna no matter how you look at it look quite similar.


Sukuna comments on Yuji being from that time

Yuji's physicals are on a level of their own. Kinda like the Heavenly restricted people.


Why does Sukuna think Kenjaku does the grossest things?

Cuz Kenjaku used the remnants of Sukuna's own twin to create a vessel that can suppress Sukuna.

Why can Yuji do it?
Why does Yuji have no CT?
Why do Yuji and Sukuna look so much alike?
Why did Sukuna call Yuji a guy from that time?
Why is that gross to Sukuna?

Cuz Yuji is his twin, in essence. :endthis:


Sukuna - Mai in this context, aka got the cursed technique
Yuji - Maki in this context, aka got the heavenly physicals


Upon Sukuna assimilating and most likely consuming his twin, he evolved to the levels he is now, just like when Maki lost Mai she evolved further.

:endthis:



Some perhaps interested parties.

@notAfanboy @ConquistadoR @NikaInParis @MonochromeYoru @Marimo_420 @L55 etc etc
It would be amazing if something like this happens.
However, my current expectations from Gege are low. I hope he gets an extension and take his time to complete the manga.

You are right about Sukuna and Yuji's similarities. Want to see how Yuji step up his game and faces this monster.
Would fit Yuji's whole theme; swallowing Sukuna.
 
#18
Wanna throw another theory out there.


Yuji is Sukuna's twin. That is Yuji is made up of the remnants of Sukuna's twin. Or the other half of Sukuna.


Through Mai and Maki Zenin we see how CT/CE/Jujutsu treats identical twins. And I do not think this was a plot just for the two of them but rather for the wider scope of the series.

Yuji and Sukuna no matter how you look at it look quite similar.


Sukuna comments on Yuji being from that time

Yuji's physicals are on a level of their own. Kinda like the Heavenly restricted people.


Why does Sukuna think Kenjaku does the grossest things?

Cuz Kenjaku used the remnants of Sukuna's own twin to create a vessel that can suppress Sukuna.

Why can Yuji do it?
Why does Yuji have no CT?
Why do Yuji and Sukuna look so much alike?
Why did Sukuna call Yuji a guy from that time?
Why is that gross to Sukuna?

Cuz Yuji is his twin, in essence. :endthis:


Sukuna - Mai in this context, aka got the cursed technique
Yuji - Maki in this context, aka got the heavenly physicals


Upon Sukuna assimilating and most likely consuming his twin, he evolved to the levels he is now, just like when Maki lost Mai she evolved further.

:endthis:



Some perhaps interested parties.

@notAfanboy @ConquistadoR @NikaInParis @MonochromeYoru @Marimo_420 @L55 etc etc
You might be onto something
 

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However, my current expectations from Gege are low. I hope he gets an extension and take his time to complete the manga.
Yeah I understand that ngl. With the rushed pace and everything it might just be a short fb or smth. Like a chapter or a few pages. But that would suck ngl and won't do justice to Sukuna or the Heian era at all.
 
#20
Hopefully this doesn't become a OP theory 2.0. Aka the readers having very good theories and high expectations just for the author to wait for our death to spit in our graves.

(Day 69 praying for Sukuna to not be able to copy other CTs)
 
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