i'm glad that some people here don't think that the rest of the straw hats who aren't monster trio won't fight the toppi roppo
Straw Hats fights only:
Luffy vs Kaido
Zoro vs King
Sanji vs Queen
Jinbe vs Jack
Franky vs Sasaki
Robin vs Black Maria
Brook vs Who's Who
Chopper vs Page One
Nami vs Ulti
God Ussop vs Orochi
Straw Hats fights only:
Luffy vs Kaido
Zoro vs King
Sanji vs Queen
Jinbe vs Jack
Franky vs Sasaki
Robin vs Black Maria
Brook vs Who's Who
Chopper vs Page One
Nami vs Ulti
God Ussop vs Orochi
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Kidd is portrayed next to Luffy not sanji
Kidd feats were manipulated
Kidd was Yc level as rookie
Kidd has CoC
King? Has nothing over Queen even yet
YC bounties are inflated ,WG do not know YC real strength. Cracker isnt even known fully just his mere clone.
If you wanna use bounties, use it for Captains not underlings.
Kidd portrayal and hype is above Sanji, sanji lost to YC level dudes. He needed RS, kidd lost only to Kaido.
Kidd is even above King anyway.
King is just irrelevant to Luffy or Kidd, he may serve as challenge but he isn't the main player..
Oda already showed base Luffy doing better than zoan Queen.
Base Luffy can react or dodge BM while Queen cant.
BM to Luffy (pre fs) : I'll make a powerful homie out of you
BM to King : join my crew as a race collection
King is just another brook while Luffy is a powerful asset in BM eyes.
When I'm telling you that :
fs luffy> g4 luffy~Marco>King
BM doesnt view King as powerful asset , just a mere collection.
Kidd feats were manipulated
Kidd was Yc level as rookie
Kidd has CoC
King? Has nothing over Queen even yet
YC bounties are inflated ,WG do not know YC real strength. Cracker isnt even known fully just his mere clone.
If you wanna use bounties, use it for Captains not underlings.
Kidd portrayal and hype is above Sanji, sanji lost to YC level dudes. He needed RS, kidd lost only to Kaido.
Kidd is even above King anyway.
King is just irrelevant to Luffy or Kidd, he may serve as challenge but he isn't the main player..
Oda already showed base Luffy doing better than zoan Queen.
Base Luffy can react or dodge BM while Queen cant.
BM to Luffy (pre fs) : I'll make a powerful homie out of you
BM to King : join my crew as a race collection
King is just another brook while Luffy is a powerful asset in BM eyes.
When I'm telling you that :
fs luffy> g4 luffy~Marco>King
BM doesnt view King as powerful asset , just a mere collection.
Same. I'm certain Kid will be getting at least a 1 v 1 against Apoo but I'm not so sure about Killer. F6 are looking a bit too strong for him pending any power ups but then again Oda's given him his preferred weapons back so he might show feats exceeding that of Kamazou's or at least I'd hope so, but wouldn't put my money on it..lolz. Also I don't think he's strong enough to be fighting side by side against King with Zoro (that ship sailed the moment he got his ass handed to him by the earlier and Zoro has gotten significantly stronger since then) plus Killer's fighting style just doesn't strike me as a support type compatible with Zoro. What do u think about Heat & Wire? Who do you think they could potentially be matched up against.
I have hope in Killer. When he gets his weapons back, I think he can show some great feats. At leats that's what I hope.
To be honest, I doubt they're that strong or relevant, but they might fight against some of the gifter elite that we saw last chapter. Heat could be stronger than I think though, we just have to wait and see.
To be honest, I doubt they're that strong or relevant, but they might fight against some of the gifter elite that we saw last chapter. Heat could be stronger than I think though, we just have to wait and see.
Haha I hope u're right ^^.
I don't think either could take out a veteran level combatant 1 v 1 but I feel both individually should be able to tango with Lilin's enraged army commanders so I reckon they could take down a vet level fighter together. Not gonna lie it'd suck a bit if they only end up fighting fodder as Oda kinda hyped them up on Shabondy so been looking forward to seeing them scrap for a minute now. So hope they at least get to fight someone of note even if they have to do it together.
I don't think either could take out a veteran level combatant 1 v 1 but I feel both individually should be able to tango with Lilin's enraged army commanders so I reckon they could take down a vet level fighter together. Not gonna lie it'd suck a bit if they only end up fighting fodder as Oda kinda hyped them up on Shabondy so been looking forward to seeing them scrap for a minute now. So hope they at least get to fight someone of note even if they have to do it together.
.vs Yonkou
Luffy, Law & Kidd v Kaidou
Immortal Luffy (support: Hawkins buff - limit break) v Kaidou
??? v Lilin -
.vs Yonkou Top Executives
Ashura v King → Zoro (support: onimaru) v "King" The Wildfire
Denjiro v Queen → Sanji (support: vaccine shot) v "Queen" The Plague
Inuarashi v Jack → Jinbe (support: large water pool/source) or Nekomamushi (Sulong) v "Jack" The Drought
Pirate Empress "Boa Hancock" or Jinbe (support: large water pool/source) v Thick Thighs "Smoothie"
.vs Numbers (???)
Luffy v Kaidou's Son (Ace?)
Inuarashi v Number (Upper Number)
Nekomamushi v Number (Upper Number)
Ashuradouji v Number (Upper Number)
Denjiro v Numbers (Upper Number)
Chopper (※insane PU like EL?) v Number (Lower Number) - Monster v Monster, I'd be surprised if this doesn't happen
Franky Shogun v Number (Lower Number)
Kinemon & Kiku v Number (Lower Number)
Raizo & Kawamastu (Lower Number)
Coby v Number (Lower Number) -
.vs Yonkou Executives
Kidd v Apoo
Smoker v Who's Who
Drake v Sasaki
Sanji v Page One (confrontation/closure) → Drake v Page One (maybe Drake back-stabs P1? wouldn't mind a full blown fight either)
Sanji v Ulti (confrontation) [*the man is screwed...lolz] → Nami & Ally (Reiju?) v Ulti
Robin & Ally (Tashigi?) v Black Maria (Titanoboa?)
Brook & Carrot (Sulong) v Perospero
Killer v Snack or Daifuku ※will need some sort of power up if fighting against Snack
Coby v Daifuku - If Killer doesn't fight him
.vs Officers
Usopp v Flampe → Usopp v Mont Dor
Robin v Compote
Nami v Galette
Brook v Amande
Musketeers/Guardians (Sulong) v Shinuchi & the rest of Lilin's ministers
.vs Orochi
Zoro v Orochi (confrontation) → Momo v Orochi
Kawamtsu v Mimawarigumi Cap'n → Zoro v Mimawarigumi Cap'n (Orochi's strongest Samurai - Mimawarigumi)
Raizou v Fukurokuju → Shinobu v Fukurokuju (confrontation) → Sanji v Fukurokuju (Orochi's strongest Ninja - Oniwabanshu)
Brook v Daikoku (Oniwabanshu)
Franky v Kasajizo? - Monk looking dude (Mimawarigumi)
Nami v Oniwaban Chick (Oniwabanshu)
Robin v Mimawarigumi Chick (Mimawarigumi)
Carrot v Bunny looking dude (Mimawarigumi)
Chopper v Hanzo (Oniwabanshu)
Others
O-Tama Army (lolz), Regular Minks (Sulong), Samurai v Gifters & Below
Luffy, Law & Kidd v Kaidou
Immortal Luffy (support: Hawkins buff - limit break) v Kaidou
??? v Lilin -
※No clue who's gonna fight Lilin maybe Weevil? but I reckon Oda once again either brings O-Lin back or has Lilin experience one of her ridiculous hunger pangs again
you just know some shit like that is gonna happen lolz. Also there was a scene in the new one piece game that had Lilin have one of her hunger pangs or sumin again and then she got saved by Katakuri through the Mirror world 
so I could defo see something like this happening ^^"
you just know some shit like that is gonna happen lolz. Also there was a scene in the new one piece game that had Lilin have one of her hunger pangs or sumin again and then she got saved by Katakuri through the Mirror world so I could defo see something like this happening ^^".vs Yonkou Top Executives
Ashura v King → Zoro (support: onimaru) v "King" The Wildfire
Denjiro v Queen → Sanji (support: vaccine shot) v "Queen" The Plague
Inuarashi v Jack → Jinbe (support: large water pool/source) or Nekomamushi (Sulong) v "Jack" The Drought
Pirate Empress "Boa Hancock" or Jinbe (support: large water pool/source) v Thick Thighs "Smoothie"
※I think Zoro & Sanji and Jinbe will be recieving some sort of indirect assistance in this fight just coz of how deadly the calamities' abilities are:
Sanji - It'd be beyond daft for chopper to not have prepared some sort of vaccine in advance for the SHs at least against Queen's mummy virus so Sanji would probably be taking in some sort of antibodies into this fight.
Zoro - I think we are gonna be seeing Zoro and Onimaru fight together at somepoint on Onigashima just like the later once did with Ushimaru. Onimaru is a magical fox that posses a mysterious ability to shape shift which falls in line with fox demons in japanese mythology so he could potentially also be able to use fox-fire, which might help to counter King's fire abilities to a degree.
Jinbe - I don't current Jinbe can take down a calamity on his own, particularly since he hasn't been granted any power-ups but Oda could always give Jinbe a significant spike in strength if he gives him access to a substantial amount of water.
Sanji - It'd be beyond daft for chopper to not have prepared some sort of vaccine in advance for the SHs at least against Queen's mummy virus so Sanji would probably be taking in some sort of antibodies into this fight.
Zoro - I think we are gonna be seeing Zoro and Onimaru fight together at somepoint on Onigashima just like the later once did with Ushimaru. Onimaru is a magical fox that posses a mysterious ability to shape shift which falls in line with fox demons in japanese mythology so he could potentially also be able to use fox-fire, which might help to counter King's fire abilities to a degree.
Jinbe - I don't current Jinbe can take down a calamity on his own, particularly since he hasn't been granted any power-ups but Oda could always give Jinbe a significant spike in strength if he gives him access to a substantial amount of water.
.vs Numbers (???)
Luffy v Kaidou's Son (Ace?)
Inuarashi v Number (Upper Number)
Nekomamushi v Number (Upper Number)
Ashuradouji v Number (Upper Number)
Denjiro v Numbers (Upper Number)
Chopper (※insane PU like EL?) v Number (Lower Number) - Monster v Monster, I'd be surprised if this doesn't happen
Franky Shogun v Number (Lower Number)
Kinemon & Kiku v Number (Lower Number)
Raizo & Kawamastu (Lower Number)
Coby v Number (Lower Number) -
※Not exactly sure if the numbers are gonna be stronger than the Tobi Roppo but no matter how you look at it, Queen shouted the beast pirates in an hierarchical manner so there's gotta be sumin to these guys. Moreover they're still being kept in mystery even now. I reckon we'd have some Numbers stronger/as strong as the Tobi Roppo and some weaker.
※Also can't think of any one else that can face the last number so might as well have Coby flex on it...lolz. Or maybe Momo in his adult dragon form takes on one of the Numbers?
※btw not implying Kaidou's son is a Number, but like the numbers it's hard to guess how strong he is so I put him in this section
※Also can't think of any one else that can face the last number so might as well have Coby flex on it...lolz. Or maybe Momo in his adult dragon form takes on one of the Numbers?
※btw not implying Kaidou's son is a Number, but like the numbers it's hard to guess how strong he is so I put him in this section
.vs Yonkou Executives
Kidd v Apoo
Smoker v Who's Who
Drake v Sasaki
Sanji v Page One (confrontation/closure) → Drake v Page One (maybe Drake back-stabs P1? wouldn't mind a full blown fight either)
Sanji v Ulti (confrontation) [*the man is screwed...lolz] → Nami & Ally (Reiju?) v Ulti
Robin & Ally (Tashigi?) v Black Maria (Titanoboa?)
Brook & Carrot (Sulong) v Perospero
Killer v Snack or Daifuku ※will need some sort of power up if fighting against Snack
Coby v Daifuku - If Killer doesn't fight him
※For the potential allies here, I have Sword/Marines, Germa 66 or the Scabbards. I'm not confident the Germa will come to the SHs aide except pudding saved them, in which case they will be indebted to Sanji again. Would love to see Reiju scrap with Ulti tho.
※P1 and Sanji might have a confrontation on Onigashima, but If Sanji beats P1 then I don't get why Oda brought him back into the story ^^" so I can only think Oda is reserving him for someone else. Either way, if Sanji doesn't beat P1, then the most natural alternative for me is that Drake beats him.
※We almost always have Smoker and Tashigi in this kinda arcs, and they are two of the most conflicted marines in the series. If we are gonna see a repeat of Rocks 1.0 with the marines allying with pirates then they have to be a part of it.
※Wano anime has Snack on Wano, so maybe? Plus he seems to have an awful fate with the WG so will be hilarious if he fights Killer lolz
※P1 and Sanji might have a confrontation on Onigashima, but If Sanji beats P1 then I don't get why Oda brought him back into the story ^^" so I can only think Oda is reserving him for someone else. Either way, if Sanji doesn't beat P1, then the most natural alternative for me is that Drake beats him.
※We almost always have Smoker and Tashigi in this kinda arcs, and they are two of the most conflicted marines in the series. If we are gonna see a repeat of Rocks 1.0 with the marines allying with pirates then they have to be a part of it.
※Wano anime has Snack on Wano, so maybe? Plus he seems to have an awful fate with the WG so will be hilarious if he fights Killer lolz
.vs Officers
Usopp v Flampe → Usopp v Mont Dor
Robin v Compote
Nami v Galette
Brook v Amande
Musketeers/Guardians (Sulong) v Shinuchi & the rest of Lilin's ministers
※I've demoted compote from vet level to officer level due to lack of relevancy..lolz. She wasn't even included in the debate on who will be replacing Lilin if she died ^^". Plus, the trio of Smoothie, Perorin and Daifuku seem to be portrayed as the strongest fighters Lilin's got with her on wano atm.
.vs Orochi
Zoro v Orochi (confrontation) → Momo v Orochi
Kawamtsu v Mimawarigumi Cap'n → Zoro v Mimawarigumi Cap'n (Orochi's strongest Samurai - Mimawarigumi)
Raizou v Fukurokuju → Shinobu v Fukurokuju (confrontation) → Sanji v Fukurokuju (Orochi's strongest Ninja - Oniwabanshu)
Brook v Daikoku (Oniwabanshu)
Franky v Kasajizo? - Monk looking dude (Mimawarigumi)
Nami v Oniwaban Chick (Oniwabanshu)
Robin v Mimawarigumi Chick (Mimawarigumi)
Carrot v Bunny looking dude (Mimawarigumi)
Chopper v Hanzo (Oniwabanshu)
Others
O-Tama Army (lolz), Regular Minks (Sulong), Samurai v Gifters & Below
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. Metal Greymon is pretty badass tho so wouldn't mind Who's Who having a T Rex zoan :p
Been thinking about this lately....lets do a hypothetical. What if Kaido's Son is powerful (around Tobi-Roppo/All-Star strength; in the median somewhere) and a legitimate threat? What if he's also not the Ace, but the Ace ALSO exists and is above King?
How would that affect everyone's "Matchups" lol? Its still technically a possibility.
How would that affect everyone's "Matchups" lol? Its still technically a possibility.
Its not all that unlikely either. The Ace is a "unit" that has yet to be shown and makes perfect sense to actually exist within Kaido's crew, given the motif. While nothing has been mentioned, imo there is a stronger chance of this person existing than not. Kaido has yet to have been mentioned to be the "Ace" himself, but the "Governor-General" since his introduction.
The other scenario is his son. If he's not the Ace (and I personally am doubting that possibility), its possible he's just another powerful member of Kaido's crew, though no confirmation on that yet. At least Kaido seems to respect him enough to want him at the party.
Essentially the hypotheticals are:
Son: Is he weak or strong? If strong, where does he stand with the other strong members?
Ace: Does this person exist? If they do, are they stronger than King?
Edit: Another interesting question is where the Numbers stand in all of this. I doubt they are just "slightly" stronger than normal headliners, but possibly around the same range as the Tobi Roppo? Curious as to where Oda will place them.
The other scenario is his son. If he's not the Ace (and I personally am doubting that possibility), its possible he's just another powerful member of Kaido's crew, though no confirmation on that yet. At least Kaido seems to respect him enough to want him at the party.
Essentially the hypotheticals are:
Son: Is he weak or strong? If strong, where does he stand with the other strong members?
Ace: Does this person exist? If they do, are they stronger than King?
Edit: Another interesting question is where the Numbers stand in all of this. I doubt they are just "slightly" stronger than normal headliners, but possibly around the same range as the Tobi Roppo? Curious as to where Oda will place them.
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