Questions & Mysteries Can S-Hawk use Haki? And could BB's CoA the best?

Can S-Hawk use Haki?


  • Total voters
    15
#23

Forgot to mention it was 1 handed CoA block.

Not even 2 handed like Law vs. Doflamingo, or 3 Admirals at the same time using 2 hands vs. WB's long range random Tremor attack:





BB using only 1 hand means BB still had more CoA power than that, its not even his limit.



I think S-Hawk not being able to use Haki wouldn't make sense if it was that way considering Fujitora think they don't need Mihawk when they have S-Hawk:





Not being able to use CoA would be depowered, so without CoA Haki S-Hawk can't replace Mihawk, or they somehow replaced that problem with another method.

Can swordsman in One Piece cut a mountain without even amplifying their sword attack with Haki?

We've never seen that before.

Considering the size X density of the mountain rock vs. the size X density of a human size steel, cutting the mountain should require much more power than cutting human size steel.

So it doesn't make sense that S-Hawk cuts mountain without Haki, or if they find another method to replace CoA with DF or some kind of another technique.

Otherwise Zolo wasted his Haki for no reason even when he knows he won't be able to hit Pica's real body, he used CoA to cut Pica's Golem, means that Zolo needs CoA to make that kind of big sword slashes otherwise there was no need to waste his Haki.

If we consider that S-Hawk didn't use Haki, and cut the mountain with sheer physical strength, then its still incredibly impressive.

Because that would require MORE PHYSICAL strength than a swordsman with CoA Haki would require. Meaning that S-Hawk's slashes are physically should be more powerful than other swordsman, give that Hakiless Burgess sword skills do that, or that Nightmare Luffy could be an example for it but then cutting Oars a little bit is no where near as impressive as cutting a mountain.

Why physicality is important? Because we've seen that with much superior physicality you can overpower even Ad.CoA barrier.

Hakiless Pre-TS Luffy's attack is not working vs. Marigold's Ad.CoA:



Blocks easily.

Hakiless Pre-TS Luffy's G2 attack vs. Marigold's Ad.CoA:




Hakiless attack overpowers the CoA Haki barrier.

Considering Luffy's Hakiless G2 attacks were no where near close to destroying a mountain, anyone can do the math about the Haki level difference.

Or when Katakuri's CoA was > Luffy's CoA,



Luffy managed to overpower Katakuri's superior CoA with much superior physical strength difference via G4 form.





Much superior physical strength overpowered superior Haki.

BB's 1 handed CoA block (not even 2 handed fully powered) > S-Hawk's mountain level insane physical strength amped slash (if he has no Haki and no DF amplified) , if S-Hawk has CoA Haki its also impressive in any case.



The block from the snake is not adv coa haki only normal coa haki
 
#24
The entire post is under the false premise that "my haki is bigger than your haki so you auto lose by default".
Its the average shonen reader brain in action. Fried by years of exposure to retarded RPGesque muda muda power level systems.

Mihawks slash got stopped by a hakiless block from Crocodile.
Cutting mountains without haki makes sense and has happened in the past. Ikoku or Hakoku would both be able to.
A King Punch is void of haki aswell. There is no one way to do things in OP. Pure physical power can still overcome haki aswell.

Will S-Hawk get haki? Probably.
According to what Vegapunk said about the Seraphim they will eventually end up with the whole package.
Talent
Willpower
Abilities
Genetics
 
#25
I believe they would be able to use haki and every skill of the originals.
It is very clear to me that Seraphim's haven't developed to their fullest yet.
As for the clash, BB blocked a mountain busting slash with his coa from a non coated sword which is a good feat but nothing too crazy. Even a guy like pica was confident that he could deal with attacks that cut his golem into pieces.
Whatever the case with that clash i believe BB will have a top tier haki, let's not forget that he gave the haki god (shanks) a permanent scar, witch is a big possibility of adv COC.
 
#26
I believe they would be able to use haki and every skill of the originals.
It is very clear to me that Seraphim's haven't developed to their fullest yet.
As for the clash, BB blocked a mountain busting slash with his coa from a non coated sword which is a good feat but nothing too crazy. Even a guy like pica was confident that he could deal with attacks that cut his golem into pieces.
Whatever the case with that clash i believe BB will have a top tier haki, let's not forget that he gave the haki god (shanks) a permanent scar, witch is a big possibility of adv COC.
Shanks was pretty young back then I doubt he was so great at Haki at that time.
 
H

Herrera95

#27
BB using only 1 hand means BB still had more CoA power than that, its not even his limit.
2 hands just increase the range of his CoA not the power. This is like saying Luffy's ultimate could have the double of power if he used both hands. Nonsense.

In fact 1 hand is more effective as already showed by the full-body haki that seems to be weaker by not focusing haki in only one part.

That's why swordsmen are so effective. They focus their haki on their swords. And having 3 swords actually makes it harder for Zoro. No wonder why WSS is a single sword user and so many top tiers like Shanks, Roger, Rayleigh.
Post automatically merged:

I think S-Hawk not being able to use Haki wouldn't make sense if it was that way considering Fujitora think they don't need Mihawk when they have S-Hawk:
I do think that know haki but I think there is no correlation in your statement. As you said brute force can overpower haki otherwise Zunesha wouldn't one shot Jack or maybe Zunesha also has haki?

I mean almost everybody on Amazon Lily has haki, does all those weak girls can beat the strong animals that Luffy spent 2 years training? I don't think so.

But for sure they can at least learn haki since they are living beings. Most probably already know haki.
Post automatically merged:

To finish. Teach does have a good CoA. Not top level though. Maybe Luffy Level.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
#28
Try telling that to Luffy bros, they seem to be hating downplaying Sanji pretty heavily recently. Someone even made a post that current Sanji can't beat Doffy.
Stop trying to deflect, it is you Zoro fanboys who said Sanji cannot defeat Doflamingo. We Luffy fans have always been behind Sanji. You Zoro fans always looking for a reason to downplay him.

You guys even said I was bullshitting when I said Sanji is a mini version of Luffy., and that he pushes Zoro to high- extreme diff.

Unlike Zoro, Sanji is a complete fighter, just like Luffy.

Sanji has speed,
Sanji has flight ,
he insane durability,
insane agility,
good obseravtion haki,
elemental powers that causes internal destruction

and decent armament haki.

The first 5 pro's mentioned are what he has over Zoro.

Reading the above abilities about Sanji is similar to Luffy's powerset.
 
#31
Shanks was pretty young back then I doubt he was so great at Haki at that time.
Yes but they are around the same age plus when shanks was talking to whitebeard he did look like his wound is a very big deal and wb himself didn't seem to disagree.
Even if he was as young as zoro for example and BB gave him a permanent scar while just one year older it is still a big deal and a haki feat.
I think bb is sloppy and overconfident and he looks like he relies on his df's more than anything because he luck's other abilities but i believe that he will have top tier haki as well.
 
#32
Yes but they are around the same age plus when shanks was talking to whitebeard he did look like his wound is a very big deal and wb himself didn't seem to disagree.
Even if he was as young as zoro for example and BB gave him a permanent scar while just one year older it is still a big deal and a haki feat.
I think bb is sloppy and overconfident and he looks like he relies on his df's more than anything because he luck's other abilities but i believe that he will have top tier haki as well.
How is it a Haki feat to scar someone who is practically a normal human at that point?
 
Top