Questions & Mysteries Who is Zoro's final opponent?

[Zenos7]

can you bring the panel from Viz ... when Zoro is shouting his dream about being greatest ?

The VIZ actually put the "ever" in that place.

Spoiler

Stephen Paul didnt

Someday, either you or I will be the world's strongest swordsman!!

scource:https://web.archive.org/web/2009111...ascreener.com/stephen/onepiece/op-v01c005.txt

And denden also didnt translate it as such.

So yeah, the point still stands that past swordsmen are not necessarily included. We will eventually see where oda is going with this.

 

[Natalija]

- Mihawk to meetup with Shanks and stick with him either throughout or during the final war (because he believes Zoro is getting close to the top). We also need to know more of his past.

Would 100% love this, Shanks would be a pushover and Mihawk would be rolling his eyes. Match made in heaven. :sabogood:

 

[Red Admiral]

The VIZ actually put the "ever" in that place.

Spoiler

Stephen Paul didnt


scource:https://web.archive.org/web/2009111...ascreener.com/stephen/onepiece/op-v01c005.txt

And denden also didnt translate it as such.

So yeah, the point still stands that past swordsmen are not necessarily included. We will eventually see where oda is going with this.

hmmm ... I'm perfectly OK with waiting ...

Roger being a swordsman is the strongest argument against most claims that come out of Zoro fandom

WSS is about over all power
- while Roger wasn't WSS

Zoro dream is about being greatest of all time
- Roger stand in his way

and I can't ignore them ...


but I guess when we understand "how Mihawk got his title" it all would be OK

if Oda ever give a fuck to give him a story arc

 

[Natalija]

Spoiler

Zzzolo?

 

[Red Admiral]

Would 100% love this, Shanks would be a pushover and Mihawk would be rolling his eyes. Match made in heaven. :sabogood:

Shanks and Mihawk NOT fighting side by side at some point is a massive waste of time ... I don't even care if mihawk offically become an ally or do it as a friend

it have to happen ....

it's too good and this two are too connected for not being true

 

[Zenos7]

hmmm ... I'm perfectly OK with waiting ...

Roger being a swordsman is the strongest argument against most claims that come out of Zoro fandom

WSS is about over all power
- while Roger wasn't WSS

Zoro dream is about being greatest of all time
- Roger stand in his way

and I can't ignore them ...


but I guess when we understand "how Mihawk got his title" it all would be OK

if Oda ever give a fuck to give him a story arc

But thats the point though. Zoros dream isnt necessarily about being the greatest of all time. Therefore roger might pose no issue for zoros dream. Or oda will just have zoro be legit the strongest of all time, time will tell.

 

[Zenos7]

Zzzolo?

Yeah VIZ is using "zolo"

 

[Don Diego]

Who is Zoro's final opponent?

 

[Natalija]

Shanks and Mihawk NOT fighting side by side at some point is a massive waste of time ... I don't even care if mihawk offically become an ally or do it as a friend

it have to happen ....

it's too good and this two are too connected for not being true

A girl can dream!

 

[Red Admiral]

But thats the point though. Zoros dream isnt necessarily about being the greatest of all time. Therefore roger might pose no issue for zoros dream. Or oda will just have zoro be legit the strongest of all time, time will tell.

or it's about being greatest in way of sword

time WILL tell

 

[Red Admiral]

A girl can dream!

so dream about it hard and heavy

 

[Finalbeta]

Impossibru

He will never defeat it

Zoro is meant to defeat his last opponent

 

[stealthblack]

Does rayleigh stand between luffy and his dream of becoming the pirate king?

Does ivankov stand between sanji and his dream of peeking at nude womenfinding the all-blue?

rayleigh knows the location of raftel , so luffy just needs to beat him to make him spill the beans on where raftel is

 

[Zenos7]

rayleigh knows the location of raftel , so luffy just needs to beat him to make him spill the beans on where raftel is

luffy would probably be as disgusted by this suggestion as he was with usopps suggestion of just stealing the road poneglyphs without fighting the yonko lmfao.

 

[BossYimz]

Its possible for him to become wss after luffy becomes pirate king imo
But i very much doubt zoro will have the final fight

Going from luffy vs teach/imu world changing and defining battles to just end it on zoro vs mihawk makes no sense to me
And is honestly pretty underwhelming

I dont think it is.
I can see a couple of the SH dreams only being achieved after Luffy becomes pk and after the final war. Nami wants to make a world map. This requires the sh yo sail the entire world for her to accomplish it.
Brook can only accomplish his dream of meeting Laboon after Luffy becomes pk
Chopper iirc wants to cureall diseases. He cant accomplish if he doesnt travel the whole world.
Etc

As for Zoro accomplishing his goalafter Uffy becomes pk. I dont see a problem with it just like I dont ha e a problem with other sh accomplishing their dreams after Luffy becomes the pk.

 

[Albino 👑]

I dont think it is.
I can see a couple of the SH dreams only being achieved after Luffy becomes pk and after the final war. Nami wants to make a world map. This requires the sh yo sail the entire world for her to accomplish it.
Brook can only accomplish his dream of meeting Laboon after Luffy becomes pk
Chopper iirc wants to cureall diseases. He cant accomplish if he doesnt travel the whole world.
Etc

As for Zoro accomplishing his goalafter Uffy becomes pk. I dont see a problem with it just like I dont ha e a problem with other sh accomplishing their dreams after Luffy becomes the pk.

Im not sayin he can't be wss after luffy becomes pirate king like i said I think its possible

But zoros not having the final fight of the series. Its gonna be whos luffy fights in the end

Luffy becoming pirate king might not be the end of op. We know once someone finds the treasure itll lead to the final war.

 

[BossYimz]

I agree, and he clearly stated many times that everything is pointless if he can't even help his captain.

But the complicated point is: if all of this is true, then he simply won't fight Mihawk. Because I don't see the story going from Luffy becoming pirate king, and them being the most infamous crew in the world -> to a Zoro vs Mihawk.

Maybe at the end as a flash forward to all the characters in the future - mangaka do this a lot. But as a full fledged battle...? I don't think so. What would the others be doing, sipping cocktails?

I could imagine an ending with "Zoro became known as the world's strongest swordsman after infamous crash with Mihawk at xx island, where Mihawk acknowledged him"

I can see that happening however, many fans will not be satisfied in Oda off screensthe battle.

I believe a couple of the SH will only accomplish their dreams after Luffy becomes pk.
Brooke's dream of meeting Laboon can only happen after Luffy becomes pk
Nami's goal of drawing a world map can only happen after Luffy becomes pk. Mind you, at the moment, the SH have barely explored the world and by the time Luffy becomes pk, it would still be the same. Look at paradise, the supernovas used different routes to get to a body, meaning that there are multiple areas the SH have not gone to which means they will need to visit them for Namito draw the world map.
Chopper's dream of curing all diseases. He can only achieve this by traveling the world and curing the people. Only achievable after Luffy becomes pk.
Franky's dream of creating a ship that can sail the entire world. Only achievable after Luffy becomes pk.

So it is not like they will be doing nothing after Lufy becomes pk. They will continue sailing the world, will be the strongest crew in the world thus will have the freedom to sail everywhere and accomplish the dream ofthe different SH that require them to sail the entire world

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

or it's about being greatest in way of sword

And this means nothing

 

[BossYimz]

Im not sayin he can't be wss after luffy becomes pirate king like i said I think its possible

But zoros not having the final fight of the series. Its gonna be whos luffy fights in the end

Luffy becoming pirate king might not be the end of op. We know once someone finds the treasure itll lead to the final war.

I agree with this.

The final war between the pk crew and wg/navy will only happen after Luffy becomes pk.

So it is possible that Zoro fights against Mihawk after Luffy becomes pk and before the final war.

How I see things happening is Luffy vs BB fight for pk
Then final war happens where pk crew fights against navy/wg
After this, the SH sail around the world accomplishing the dreams of the rest of the sh who need to explore the entire world.

As for Zoro havingthe final fight of the series, I dont see much of a problem with this. It is not like it will affect Luffy in any way. Luffy would still be pk, the one that defeated the wg/navy, defeated BB.
Something which Mihawk the wss saidis harder than beating him and becoming the wss

 

[Albino 👑]

I agree with this.

The final war between the pk crew and wg/navy will only happen after Luffy becomes pk.

So it is possible that Zoro fights against Mihawk after Luffy becomes pk and before the final war.

How I see things happening is Luffy vs BB fight for pk
Then final war happens where pk crew fights against navy/wg
After this, the SH sail around the world accomplishing the dreams of the rest of the sh who need to explore the entire world.

As for Zoro havingthe final fight of the series, I dont see much of a problem with this. It is not like it will affect Luffy in any way. Luffy would still be pk, the one that defeated the wg/navy, defeated BB.
Something which Mihawk the wss saidis harder than beating him and becoming the wss

Maybe it happens before the final war and after bb tho thatd just mean mihawk isn't his final opponent to relate it back to the thread

Zoro not having the final fight isn't about it negatively effecting luffy.
Its just that
1. Zoro isn't the main character
2. Zoro becoming wss is significantly less significant than whatever luffys final battle will be