Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1072 Spoilers Discussion

[Jailer]

Kaku is more tallent than Lucci prove me wrong, which prove that he can grown faster than Lucci prove me wrong

Everyone in the manga regards Lucci as prodigy agent

Zoro fanboys: Kaku

 

[Gol D. Roger]

yes sugan is lethal
anything else?

I meant Sugar.

Let's say, for argument's sake, Lucci got KO'ed in a similar fashion, would you then agree that Lucci's weak and Luffy has weak attacks for not KO'ing Lucci as quickly?

 

[Peroroncino]

The beast pirates didnt show awakening cuz oda wanted to portray that through kidd law and luffy

 

[Topi Jerami]

shugan

It is Shigan

 

[yorosenpai]

The power of non existing haki of King, Queen, Jack and the flyers. The only relevant haki show off was with Luffy, Kaido, Yamato, Zoro, the samurai and off screen Big Mom, . There are better ways to showcase that if he really wanted to convey that with Kaidou's crew, that proves exactly why awakening would hurt for a beast themed crew.

well that prove the only 4 key players in Wano are Luffy,Kaido,Yamato,Zoro

 

[Cruxroux]

Confirmed by Retard:

Early spoilers are never accurate read the full summary. It states he overpowers and easily Put him to ground.

 

[Soyz]

It's still wild but expected at this point that deranged Zoro haters would come up with any braindead takes to downplay him no matter what happens in the manga.

Oda isn't looking to "downplay" Zoro by having Stussy sneak on Kaku, it's obviously to move the plot forward.
But keep lying to yourself that it wouldn't have been a repeat of Luffy vs Lucci had the fight went on for longer

luffy actually defeated lucci though, zoro didnt do damge, big diffrence :cheers:

 

[IIskandar1997]

Damn Stussy...

 

[Jailer]

well that prove the only 4 key players in Wano are Luffy,Kaido,Yamato,Zoro

Not the point of those posts

 

[HeroesNZ]

Again, what puts awakened Kaku above the CP0 dude that Izo killed in a 1v2?
Somehow you already headcanon how strong Kaku is just because Zoro is fighting him and calling Zoro impressive.

For me, Kaku is in the same tier as CP0 dudes that Izo fought 1v2 while nerfed, maybe even weaker. Beating Kaku for me is not impressive.
Getting overpowered by Kaku, makes Zoro look like a clown.

In comparison to who?

Kaku is now relative to Lucci as they are two awakened Zoan users sharing the exact same form. They've far surpassed Mr Go's feats, who struggled to put down Izo in a 2v1. Izo, who is no higher than YC4. Making Mr Go Vet-level.

No Vet-level character could ever hope to match G5 Luffy in a clash of fists or push back Zoro to any degree. Lucci and Kaku are clearly high-tiers.

But their strength is irrelevant, you can place them wherever you want. What's relevant is that Kaku is now relative to Lucci as they share the exact same power-up right down to the design. There's nothing suggesting Lucci is levels above Kaku anymore, meaning Base Zoro using hardening is comparable to G5 Luffy using hardening - especially since he overpowered a Kaku using higher-end attacks than Lucci used.

Compare the initial clash of Luffy vs Lucci to the initial clash of Zoro vs Kaku. Luffy started off being sent flying in an equal clash of fists. Zoro started off getting pushed back and immediately overpowered Kaku. Luffy ended up being clearly superior to Lucci; it's fairly clear Zoro would've ended up shitstomping Kaku the same way.

 

[Aknolagon]

Since when can giraffes stretch their neck like its made of rubber

A recall from EL^^

 

[Jailer]

Kaku is now relative to Lucci as they are two awakened Zoan users sharing the exact same form. They've far surpassed Mr Go's feats, who struggled to put down Izo in a 2v1. Izo, who is no higher than YC4. Making Mr Go Vet-level.

No Vet-level character could ever hope to match G5 Luffy in a clash of fists or push back Zoro to any degree. Lucci and Kaku are clearly high-tiers.

But their strength is irrelevant, you can place them wherever you want. What's relevant is that Kaku is now relative to Lucci as they share the exact same power-up right down to the design. There's nothing suggesting Lucci is levels above Kaku anymore, meaning Base Zoro using hardening is comparable to G5 Luffy using hardening - especially since he overpowered a Kaku using higher-end attacks than Lucci used.

They shared the exact same form pre timeskip too (hybrid) and that with Jabra, not an argument.

 

[Cruxroux]

luffy actually defeated lucci though, zoro didnt do damge, big diffrence :cheers:

Bro it's not even a proper fight yet. So far only Zoro overpowered him with literally showing nothing from his arsenal. Zoro easily put him down.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

So despite people saying Zoro sleep diff Kaku, it was literally the same as when Sanji overpowered S-Shark. Damn so many people jumped the gun

 

[Ryuarashi]

Any proof?
And dont bring pre ts nonsense

It's cannon material, why would we not use it? Don't pick and choose parts of story because it doesn't suit your agenda.

 

[notAfanboy]

Hax + off guard + being an ally to kaku
Like luffy got smoked by caesar hax

But if we compare how zoro and luffy fought
Luffy needed to go all out with his fruit named attacks
Zoro used no named attacks and hardening
Zoro looks far better than Luffy in g5

A lot of assumptions here.
Kaku was still standing. Their fight was not finished.
Lucci didnt land a hit on Luffy, same with Kaku and Zoro.
What if Stussy put Lucci to sleep too, even if he know that she is working for VP now?

Oda is a bitch, he is always inconclusive. @lee33 Pooth got banned, but would like to read his rant on this one 😂

 

[Peroroncino]

So despite people saying Zoro sleep diff Kaku, it was literally the same as when Sanji overpowered S-Shark. Damn so many people jumped the gun

Except s-shark was fighting someone else so how is that the same?

 

[terabyte]

Kaku is now relative to Lucci as they are two awakened Zoan users sharing the exact same form. They've far surpassed Mr Go's feats, who struggled to put down Izo in a 2v1. Izo, who is no higher than YC4. Making Mr Go Vet-level.

No Vet-level character could ever hope to match G5 Luffy in a clash of fists or push back Zoro to any degree. Lucci and Kaku are clearly high-tiers.

But their strength is irrelevant, you can place them wherever you want. What's relevant is that Kaku is now relative to Lucci as they share the exact same power-up right down to the design. There's nothing suggesting Lucci is levels above Kaku anymore, meaning Base Zoro using hardening is comparable to G5 Luffy using hardening - especially since he overpowered a Kaku using higher-end attacks than Lucci used.

Lucci and Kaku are not relative, what fanfiction are you reading to believe this?

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

I meant Sugar.

Let's say, for argument's sake, Lucci got KO'ed in a similar fashion, would you then agree that Lucci's weak and Luffy has weak attacks for not KO'ing Lucci as quickly?

I would agree that lucci is prob weak in comparison to stussy
and that luffy's " low tier attacks" as you described yourself dont stack up to her bite
problem?

 

[L55]

It's cannon material, why would we not use it? Don't pick and choose parts of story because it doesn't suit your agenda.

Is kaku still 20 doriki>jyabura?

Kaku and lucci got the same portrayal
Same rank
Same awakwning
Same new attacks
Lucci has nothing on Kaku